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Well kind of good news. I have all the esp's checked (for the mods I have installed - I temp unchecked boyd,diverse priest,consistent old people,dual sheath and FNIS. The only esp UNCHECKED is dual sheath redux patch(not sure why that's even there since it's not checked as a mod)AND.... disease descriptions_RND compatible patch.esp. Could it be that I don't have realistic needs and diseases installed yet ? Is that RND ? How could not having that cause me to CTD ?? crazy. Oh well. Now let me try to get the others working again...

I don't have EVERY STEP mod installed - I did install nearly every "core" mod and I added a few of my own...just shy of 200 in total. Where exactly is the CTD happening? Â While Skyrim is loading or after you see the main menu? Well I unchecked what I know are the problematic mods for me : boyd, consistent op, diverse priest, duel sheath and FNIS. Â All the other mods are check. Â Boss runs pristine. Â No errors, warnings... I checked ALL the esp and CTD. Â Right at the beginning of the emblem. Â Now I can go and uncheck all and slowly make my way down the list... Â but if I HAVE to have the esp's / esm's checked in order for things to work within the game ... wll then I'm screwed I guess. Â

I have every ESM and ESP in my list checked. But I have my full compliment of mods installed at this point. If you've worked through the entire mod list on the guide, I would check every one of them and see if that helps. Be sure to do the same for the "BSA" tab as well. Â I too have all of the STEP mods installed also. Â Every one checked huh ? Â Wow bring on the CTD's :-(

I thank you for your help. I deleted the mod and reinstalled. Checked the BOYD.esp, ran BOSS : clean. Ran SKSE under MO and CTD. Uncheck BOYD.esp and game launches fine. I know I should just move on. The mod is not imperative obviously. But knowing I CAN'T fix it (assuming what BOSS says is correct...) sticks in my craw and hopefully is not a harbinger of mods to come !

I stand corrected...previous reply edited to correct my mistake. But in any event, the CTD is caused by the patch being active when the mod the patch is for is not installed and/or active, correct? And the BOSS warning is generated to let you know of this situation. This is what I don't understand. Right now I have the following ESP's checked under the ESP tab: BOYD Diverse priests.esp diverse priestsboydpatch.esp SPT Consistent older people.esp diverse priests _consistentolderpeoplepatch.esp They are also in that order and checked when I run skyrim launcher - Data files BOYD, diverse priests, and consistent older people mods are all checked under the installed mods section of MO I don't have any more RED warnings under BOSS but now I CTD. The only time I DON'T CTD is if I UNCHECK BOYD.ESP and diversepriestsBOYDpatch.ESP . But now BOSS says I'm back to the BOSS RED MESSAGE DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp Error: Bring Out Your Dead.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without it the original red message WOW am I confused...

Thank you. I will heed your advice and work it through. Patches..:-) Man I'm really trying to understand this and how it processes but I just don't SEE what is happening. My confusion lies in MO and the ESP tab. 1)Checking the box activates the patch ? Why then are there there so many ESP patches or mods NOT checked. Some are some aren't. Do I let BOSS feed me the correct info for that tab? 2) There is a SOS patch for CoT. A couple BOSS told me I needed. I installed the MOD patch thru MO is that ok or if it says d/l manually then MO should be left out ? 3) Load orders - I need to understand this better. Does Skyrim launcher trump BOSS ? If I change the order under the DATA tab will it remain in that order or the next time I run BOSS it will reshuffle ? What does checking that DATA tab box do actually ? If it's checked it runs the patch ? I know I'm not going to get this overnight but I'm having alot of fun reviewing these mods and setting up the game just so. Thank you all

DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp Error: Bring Out Your Dead.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without it. I have gone over and followed STEP(no other non STEP mods besides CoT) and my BOSS log is clean except for the above issue.  However when I check the ESP box for BOYD Skyrim doesn't launch (SKSE thru MO).  I googled the issue but there doesn't seem to be a readily apparent solution.  Why is BOYD esp crashing the launch ?  I'm also not currently running FNIS or Dual sheath due to their own issues...  but that's another story  lol   Thank youÂ

It was the java. Once I loaded java 7 it was able to set up the exe no problem. What is it with those two mods? With those in place my existing games are toast (no matter in infancy anyway) but a new start from the horse carriage on is whacked. I am in the carriage but the view is a real close up- you never see the other characters. However once I uncheck those mods everything seems to work fine. All these tweaks mods and orders makes me feel like I'm taking a dagger into a gun fight ;-)

hi there, running into a little snag. Â Following your instructions to add dual sheath as an exe however the ext. is .jar and it opens a select binary box. Â Should I be renaming the .jar .exe ? Â Â Also when I launch the .exe 's as per your order is that only needed once ? Â It's not something that has to be done prior to game launch all the time is it ? Â Â Thank you

Be easier to buy a working STEP copy that's for sure. :-( Thru trial and error it seems checking the esp box for either diverse priests_consistent older people patch or disease and descriptions RND compatible prevent the game from even launching. I get a quick glimpse of the spinning emblem before it cuts to desktop. I guess what I'm trying to determine is if the mod is installed WITHOUT having the esp box checked.

so ESP's are mod's plug-ins ? Â If the plug-in is part of the effect of the mod shouldn't they ALL be checked in general just to be safe ? Â By leaving most of the ESP's unchecked I'd have no idea what I'd be missing... Â other than the water example you noted. Â

That worked well thank you.  Couldn't be more straightforward ! A prior post I noted that the BOSS plug in tab indicated alot of red concerning ESM's not active.  I no longer show any red because I checked the box in MO under the ESP tab.  There are a whole bunch of boxes NOT checked.  There are many boxes under BSA not checked either.  SHOULD THEY ALL BE CHECKED ??  The installed mod page has every mod listed with a checked box.  Is that not sufficient to RUN the mods ?   I'm sure im bordering on a real duh question lol but man I really don't know... thanks

That helps clear things up thank you ! MO looks alot better than it did even a day ago. I'm trying to tackle Maximum Skeleton now. I can't even get it off the ground. I looked around for a similar thread here but to no avail. I can't even figure out which file to download. I'm using MO obviously. I dont have wrye bash. Any suggestions where to start ? Thanks

EssArrBee,  Sorry but I need to go back to this.  There seem to be an increasing number of mods that when installing under MO give me the .  How do I get around this if the mod is improperly packaged like you say? Also in the last post you mentioned the BSA tab.  What is BSA exactly ?  The only boxes checked in that tab are the .bsa files that start with SKYRIM - misc.bsa etc and they are faded light green.  Ok, I figured out No game data on top level which was preventing me from installing the mod correctly.  Small steps I guess.  But I tell you the more I read here the more I KNOW I'm in over my head.  But I will plod on and tackle things 1 step at a time.  :confused: Another question however.  When installing a mod that is a patch of an existing or a mod for an add-on I get a MOD EXISTS:this mod seems to be installed already - MERGE REPLACE RENAME CANCEL are my choices.  I've been choosing merge.  Just seems like the right thing to do  LOL.  Is this correct in these cases ?

EssArrBee,  Sorry but I need to go back to this.  There seem to be an increasing number of mods that when installing under MO give me the .  How do I get around this if the mod is improperly packaged like you say? Also in the last post you mentioned the BSA tab.  What is BSA exactly ?  The only boxes checked in that tab are the .bsa files that start with SKYRIM - misc.bsa etc and they are faded light green. Â

Thanks for the BOSS add. I've been running it but never thru MOD ORG. I noticed that I have alot of RED under recognized plug-ins concerning the .esm of dawnguard,dragonborn and hearthfire (not present or not active). Is that because those add-ons have yet to initiate because it's a new game ? I now notice dirty edits under BOSS. I read that some don't have to be cleaned like the add-on updates ? In general is this something I need to address for the others ? I don't want CTD issues but I'm ok with not having the perfect game.

Yes I meant the MO v0.12.9. I see now what you mean as far as the query. Right under my eyes. Thank you. As far a question 1 I'm following STEP 2.2.6 and downloading the mod that is requested. I'm trying to stick with MO installing everything for me so I'm hoping they aren't mods I'd have to install manually.

EssArrBee, thanks for your help. Actually I AM using the Skyrim mod manager v.0.12.9. Got the terminology mixed up.

Most likely extremely basic but I just can't find a similar issue anywhere 1) Â DCF plugin, Quality world maps w/roads, small curser, tobes hi-res textures, hybrids plants and herb ---> all mods and a few others that when I open give me a message If I continue there is an explanation but it's a bit confusing to me. Â Any ideas what the issue is here ? 2) Some mods like Bellyaches, Lantern of Skyrim, Birds and flocks Hearthfire edition cleaned, Dawnguard skill interface retexture among others show a red triangle with the message "information missing,please select query info from the context menu to re-retrieve" Â For most of these I installed the mod and I'm assuming they're ok but that could be a big assumption on my part. Â Again I tried to read the info file on various mods but don't really grasp where or how to procede. 3) I noticed in NMM that you can launch the game thru a tab SKYRIM or SKSE. Â I know there are certain mods that need SKSE to work correctly. Â If that is the case then I should always launch the game thru the SKSE tab ? Â Â thanks all for your help. Â Being new to the gaming (current) arena I find the constant game mod additions fascinating and can't wait to get everything just so (impossible? :-) Â ;) and finally get gaming !Â

Thanks Gwoody79 yes I'm glad I came across this site. Â There's alot of good reading in these threads. Â I'm using a Intel Core I7 3820Â ASRock extreme 3 x79 system board 16gb DDR3-1600 ram NVIDIA Geforce GTX 660Ti w/ 2g discrete DDR5 vid mem Is Climates of Tamriel considered an ENB ? Â Do you think it would tax this system too much ?

Ahh fudge. Â I will take your advice. Â Manual sure was becoming a long process and I wasn't even close to being done. Â So I'll set up mod manager. Â Now when I'm downloading I'll be choosing download with manager. Â Does the MO totally automate the mod addition ? Â Wow would that be nice :-) Â Would you suggest an uninstall via Windows or must I follow the reverting skyrim to a pristine vanilla installation ? Â I have no real saved game that I care about. Â thank you

That is a really good suggestion actually. I would play vanilla game first to get the feel and finish the main quest at least :) Then start modding. Yes probably a good idea. But might be too late since I think I'm hooked on creating the perfect world. Funny about breaking things as careful as I am something happened where Skyrim wouldnt launch. WTH I thought all was fine 15 mins ago. I tried backtracking and removing recently added mods ( I'm up to 2E) but it worked again after I unchecked Guard Diag Overhaul on the Steam Data file box OR when I uninstalled the Nexus mod mgr (which I installed just prior to having issues or so it seemed ). Could the NMM install have prevented launch ? This leads me to another question --> does BOSS automatically create the correct mod order or must I monitor this manually thru BUM ? I actually started the STEP process manually without the aid of a mod manager . Is it too late to incorporate Wrye Bash or Mod Organizer (MO) ? Will those programs recognize what I've installed so far ? Thanks all... I will not make a trainwreck out of this I swear ! lol

Thanks all. So what you are saying is that Climates are not part of 2.2.6 because the Vanilla game doesn't take into account climate change or weather in such detail ? See below what I read on Climates of Tamriel. : "Project Reality: Climates of Tamriel is the official weather & lighting mod of S.T.E.P. - Skyrim Total Enhancement Project" Now just because a mod isn't included in STEP 2.2.6 that doesn't mean it's not a plus or interesting or non-conflicting addition correct ? Q

About a week ago I didn't have this game, a new pc specifically for this game, nor a clue what a mod was. Â So am I in over my head ? Yup. Â But I'm blown away by the level of immersion and realism this game offers. Â My last RPG attempt before life got in the way was Daggerfall or MOrrowind for goodness sakes. Â I'm totally impressed with level of detail you guys/gals at STEP attack this game. Â Even though all of this is above my pay scale I'm going to go thru the STEP process to bring this game up to speed as close as I can get it. Â I'm dying to get this thing started but I must resist ! Â My very simple question is how does following all of the S.T.E.P s in 2.2.6 differ in downloading an ENB mod or Climates of Tamriel ? Â I notice that STEP 2.2.6 does not include those as additional game adj features. Â Â Is STEP an alternative or are ENB and/of Climate mods a possible addition to STEP ? Â Â Thanks guys and sorry for such rudimentary 1st post ! Â QÂ