Thank you for your tips and your time. I've tried to follow your advices but without result. This bug of all bugs is so weird it's really driving me crazy. When I played the same saved filed on a computher without a shitload of mods, debug console, etc. I couldn't see or provoke the bug, error, clitch to occur...everything just work fine. So the only possible conclusion is I have a mishmash in my program files of the game somewhere because of all my experimentations and a clean reinstall of the game is the only possible solution. I'm I right? Then I take it from there with a new, fresh New Game File way from mods, debug console, cheats, etc. and be happy (or not).....darn it...sorry. And what now...would I dare to use mods or debug console after this? Btw thank you for excellent sajt with so many usefull tips.