Gotta thank you guys for an incredibly informative thread. I have been playin' all my ES adventures on XBox - so, yeah...lotsa vanilla. Got a new comp and desided to revisit my favs on my own terms - via modding the poop outta them. I'm still very new at this - had to reinstall three times this week already (my OCD sometimes gets over ridden by my ADD an' I muck something up) So far MO seems to help me a bit with that :P , but, yeah, was really struggling with this issue... ...one question: I was noticing before my last meltdown that my OBSE pluggins would load, in the vanilla loading data files section, but I didnt see the other mods installed via MO - are they still there and my OCD is making me paranoid, or did my ADD miss the way this is supposed to work? edit: srry - it's the other way 'round...my other mods show, but my OBSE stuff is MIA - same question applies tho...still loading and runnin'? Also, something new with the loading set up you talked about (script loader)...I run Steam from MO and it runs Steam start up and goes straight to TESIV:Oblivion...neat!