Nickithus

Wow smile!!! I got rid of RND and no more soggy feet! I ended up starting a new game as I couodnt get the switch free m rnd to ineed to work, but its worth the restart!!! I always like starting at level 1 and going out for the hunt to survive, thanks for suggesting ineed I like it aot better

Will do and will do, much appreciated dude

Thanks for the quick reply Smiley :D Yessir, took out RRR and Installed ETac w/Inns. The game seems to be running well aside from two very strange things: 1. I have soggy feet All the time... Rain or shine, inside or out. Have All the effects turned off in both Wet And Cold and Frostfall to try and remedy,,, no dice. 2. B-Smithing.... I cannot improve any weapons or armor. I can create certain armor according to the basic perk I have unlocked. I started the crafting quest at warmaidens, made the dagger, once attempting to improve it at a grindstone (I have materials needed) dagger is greyed out and I get a message saying I have no idea how to do this. Do I need to unlock another perk to improve a lowly Iron dagger? The first perk unlocks the basics. Thought that would cover iron improvement. I hate to ask man... Can you point me to a specific guide on using tes5edit to determine if several patches are needed? Errr, what does one look for when determining what needs to be patched between 2-3 mods with Xedit? Ive gone as far as installing 3rd parties to MO, Xedit is a scary realm for me. Kinda like going into my first Oblivion Realm. When I look at tes5edit its kinda like reading a book in a mirror upsidedown in a foreign language. I tried reading the readme that came with tes5edit, but not knowing wht the terms mean makes the readme hard to understand. As for merging... you mean I can merge all those patches into 1 big patch???? gawd thats scarey as the nether! **** man... one more thing.... do I need a bashed patch for that load order I posted?

Sorry about the gray bar at the top... I fergot how to make a spoiler :( Hey folks, long time reader here, just asking for advice on my load order. I had Requeim working pretty damn good with what I'm using... But after adding Better Fast Travel Expanded Towns & Cities and Realistic Room Rental enhanced I started getting frequent CTD's. I'm sure its a load order thing. I sorted and used Reqtifier after adding every mod (I use MO btw) was able to fast travel using BFT carriage from Ivarstead to Whiterun w/o issue. Once i get to whiterun I ctd at random locations. Im really hoping its just a load order issue as I have all the pacthes needed ( I think) Long story short... Would anyone mind taking a look at my load order to see if Im screwing sumthing up? Obviously loot isn't sorting correctly. Also, Ive been wondering about multiple patches. For example, If I have SIC and ROTE and using Requiem. Do I need the SIC/ROTE patch AND the Requiem/SIC AND Requiem/ROTE? Where the patches are confusing me is if mods A & B need an AB patch, but mod C has a patch for A & B. If Mod C patches A & B, does A & B need its own patch? Like if Requiem pacthes two mods to make those two mods work with Requiem, do those mods need to be patched to work with each other>? I'm trying to keep my load order to a minimum, am looking for a survivalist type of skyrim. Not too worried about better looking statues or anything. Just more quest content, expanding the towns and cities, Hunterborn, RND and Frostfall. I really like those three especially since theres an all-in-one patch for them. I was having issues with immersive weapons and armors, I didnt want to leave them out, I miss them terribly, but I'm pretty happy with the build so far. Im currently level 23 and would rather not start over (again) :( [spoiler=Load order]# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer. Skyrim.esm Update.esm Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Dawnguard.esm Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp HearthFires.esm Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Dragonborn.esm Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp Falskaar.esm ETaC - RESOURCES.esm ClimatesOfTamriel.esm HighResTexturePack01.esp HighResTexturePack02.esp HighResTexturePack03.esp Cutting Room Floor.esp Dr_BandolierDG.esp 83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp AMatterOfTime.esp Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Extended UI.esp Dodge Mod.esp SkyUI.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp lanterns.esp TheChoiceIsYours_Dragonborn.esp BFT Ships and Carriages.esp WetandCold.esp WetandCold - Ashes.esp WetandCold - Holidays.esp ETaC - Complete.esp ETaC - Complete BFT Patch.esp ETaC - Complete CRF Patch.esp ETaC - Complete Requiem Patch.esp ETaC - Whiterun Ext CRF Patch.esp ETaC - Dragon Bridge South.esp ETaC - Complete WC Holidays Patch.esp Immersive Orc Strongholds.esp Immersive Whiterun.esp Immersive Solstheim.esp Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp Book Covers Skyrim.esp Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp Civil War Overhaul.esp Open Cities Skyrim.esp Open Cities Skyrim - WCHolidays.esp Rebirth Monster.esp Rebirth Monster - SIC Patch.esp Requiem.esp Requiem - Resources.esp Requiem - USKP + UDGP.esp Requiem - Hearthfire.esp Requiem - Dragonborn.esp Requiem - Falskaar.esp Requiem - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp RequiemSurvivalExperience.esp Requiem - CCOR Patch.esp Requiem - CCOR Patch - Hearthfires.esp Requiem - Dragonborn - CCOR Patch.esp Requiem - Dragonborn - SIC - CCOR Patch.esp Requiem - Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp Requiem - Immersive Creatures.esp Requiem-OpenCities.esp Requiem - Revenge of the Enemies.esp RealisticRoomRental.esp ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp AmazingFollowerTweaks.esp RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp Dr_Bandolier.esp ScopedBows.esp Paralysis.esp SFO - Dragonborn.esp TheChoiceIsYours.esp Cloaks.esp 1nivWICCloaks.esp Run For Your Lives.esp CFR-CloaksForRequiem.esp 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Point The Way.esp Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Chesko_Frostfall.esp Hunterborn.esp Hunterborn_LanternsAndCandles-Patch.esp Hunterborn_WearableLantern-Patch.esp RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp RSE-UBB.esp Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp RND_AnimalLoot.esp RND_USKP-Patch.esp Purewaters.esp RND_PureWaters-Patch.esp RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp Requiem - Scoped Bows.esp Cloaks - USKP Patch.esp TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp Hunterborn_Requiem-Patch.esp dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp Requiem for the Indifferent.esp Bashed Patch, 0.esp

[spoiler=Look what I was Learnt!]Does it work? IT WORKS! Thank you for the help :) Please don't think that I asked how to use a spoiler here without first googling, I try to google everything. I found a few answers but they didn't correspond with these forums... naaa-mean? [spoiler=Naa-mean definition]Know what i mean? I'd like to get all of these to work, but the mods with one* next to them I'd like to keep no matter what. The mods below Step all have patches for Requiem, except things like bandoliers. I dont fully have a grasp on what would conflict with Requiem.. I assume everything would. Thats why I'm asking for help before I even start installing mods. I was thinking about installing all of the mods in the second list, then adding all the ones from the STEP list. Is that a bad idea? The idea behind that is to start with all the big mods, then put all the trinkets in. Like improved textures n what not. Another big reason I REALLY want to get this right is I'm setting up Skyrim for my Dad too. I currently have a SkyRe version set up for him with around 90 mods and its running pretty stable. The thing is, I'd rather troubleshoot on my PC instead of his. Pop really doesn't have the patience to do all this, has some health issues as well which kinda make him impatient. I have no problems spending the time to get everything working for him though. I love when he leaves to see the doctor or something, I go in and add a buncha neat stuff, test it and let him start up the game when he gets back. Makes him happy ya know? [spoiler=proposed mod list] Cleaned Update,DB,DG and HF esm's All UNSKP's HRDLC's SkyUI These are installed as of now _______________________________________________________________________________ These are not Attired Jarls** Bowlegged* Brawl Bugs* CLothingNClutter* CuttingRFloor* DBodyCollis.* DubCursor* FTimescale* GDIalogueOVerhaul* Ragparalysis* SKSE Alt-F4* SKyProjOpt.* SmartSouls* CCOR* RagdollsNForce* BetterDialogue* Bettermessage* DiseaseDescript* ImmHud* RuinsClutter* RSEmbers* SkyDistOver* Ult.HD Fire* Skyfalls** StaticMesh* QualityWorldMap* AmidCaves** AmidFarmH** AmidSols** AmidWhiterun** SkyFlora** DragonGlyphs** HD EnhancedTerrain** EnhancedDistanceterrain** EnhancedNights** HigQLODs** HigResRoadSigns** HQSnow** HybrodsHDplants&Herbs** ImprovedVanillaMountains**. LanternsSkyrim** MossRocks&DB** PointTheWay** RealIce** RealWoodFarmhouses** ReDefinedDungeons* RealWater2** SkyDistDetail** Skypuddles** TerrainBump** BeautyDungeons* TreesHD* VividLandTUndraMoss** BellyachesCreatures83willowsBugs* Beards* HDDragon(BellyAche)* Brows* CoverKhajiits* FrostAtro** MoreRealHair* SupLoreHair* NatEyes* AmidBladeWoe** AmidBoSilence* AmidLightNStudded* AmidStormCloak* Ult.HDTorch** DuelWieldBLock* EnhancedBlood** LightningThunderstorms** Rainbows** ShootingStars** 418thStep** Shadowmarks** DetailedRugs** RadiantPotionsNpoisons(How do these work together?)* SillyLevelof detailPotionsnPoisons(I get lost here)* SillyDetailWineCellar** AutoUnEquip* ConvHorses* DuelWieldParry* FollowerTrapSafe* SkyUncapper* ChoiseisYours* Parthurnax* TheivesGuildReQ** TrapsNoise** Wet&Cold-All* RunForLives* VampsAttack These are from STEP ______________________________________________________________________________________ These are the ones I've chosen to represent the 'Survival' aspect I'm looking for. Requiem*----------------------- Hunterborn * | RealisticNeedsDiseases * | Frostfall* |-------Keepers e.g. would like to keep these no matter what. Falskaar * | Wyrmstooth* | HelgenReborn*----------------- Bandoliers* CivilWarOverhaul* Cloaks and WinterIsComing* DragonCombatOverhaul** ExpandedTowns&Cities Immersive Armors and Weps* HarvestOverhaul** Lantersn&Candles** LanternsOfSkyrim all in one** No Poison Dialogue* HeavyArmory/NewWeps** Revenge of the enemies* TradeAndBarter* WeaponsanArmorFixesRemade* YouHunger* MonsterMod* Alternate Start-Live Another Life< Will this work with Requiem?

Yessir, couldn't agree more. Wow... maybe this stuff just isn't my thing.... I just spent around two hours trying to figure out how to make a spoiler post here containing the mods I want to use in hopes that someone might be able to help me install them so Skyrim will work. I'm trying to replace Sky-Re with Requiem as Ive found Requiem to be more in-line with what I'm looking for, and use mods like Hunterborn, Frostfall and RND. Immersive creatures and Revenge of the Enemies (and a few more). Along with around 70-80% of the STEP core mods. I'm trying to make Skyrim a "deleveled world" that focuses on survivalism 1st, THEN questing. But after these last two weeks of working with all these mods and "trying" to understand it... I can't even figure out a way to convey all the mods I want to use in hidden spoiler tag so my post doesnt end up being a mile-long. I have no college in me. At all. Just a plumber/excavator who might be in over his head getting aggravated during leisure time rather than relaxing and gaming. I'm 35 now... at this rate I'll be 52 before I get this stuff to work. Lets say I do end up figuring out how to post a spoiler... Is there a certain section I should/could post a proposed mod-list in hopes of finding help to get them to work? I currently have a vanilla set-up with the Update and DLC esm's cleaned, all the unofficials, SKSE and SKY UI. Thats where I plan to start... please, where do I go from here? I tried to follow the tutorials regarding my mod list, (there were several sources of tutorials) but when I start the game, all I get is the Skyrim symbol. Trying to get all these mods to work from several different tutorials is what really screwed me up. I swear, the next sewer I fix that's over six feet I'm just gonna bury myself in it. I had Skyrim working with around 180 mods using SkyRe. I got to level 9, went into a random cave, cleared it, at the end of the cave re-entering skyrim... The game would no longer load. It just stuck on the loading screen. I figured it wasn't worth trying to trouble-shoot that mod list. Thats when I decided to start over using Requiem. Now I can't get it to run. I used only mods that have patches associated with Requiem. No dice. For starters, how can I post a list of my proposed mods into a spoiler?

Cant agree more dude, 2-3 days ago it was all so daunting I was seriously gonna give up and look for another game to get into on steam. But I found Hunterborn and a few other mods that lit the fire under my shovel to keep digging for SkyKnowlegde. I think I'll stick with SkyRe, I really like how perma alters the perk system, but I kinda get the feeliong that it might be kinda hard to run properly with my choice of mods, although now thatI've learned how to create profiles with MO I may make a perkus profile to test it out. I get into the mods that add content and functions to the game rather than the pretty stuff, but one of these days Ill tackle the tutorial regarding optimizing all the textures through step. My confidence since yesterday morning has skyrocketed. I'm very happy and grateful to find this community, Thanks again for listening/reading

Thanks for the reply Grant, Obviously I know nothing when it comes to Java, good news is, I installed both versions and ran reproccer for the VERY 1st time all the way through and got it done! woo-hoo! I hope Im not coming across as an idiot in my posts, just trying to keep them upbeat with a lil levity ya know? Im a 35 y/o plumber/excavator, this stuff is a bit out of my league, ya dig? I dig. Just out of curiosity.. what do you use for your perks? You a Requiem guy, or just balls out Vanilla?

Big 10-4 to all that dude... Hells YEAH I watched Just about ALL GP vids and some gopher vids. Yeh I smacked myself right after reading #4 as I just put 2&2 together realizing the DATA folder is never modded. Roger Dodger to the 64-32 bit java comment.. I actually did DL a 32 bit version (Im on a 64 os) But after the install completes, instead of IE opening up displaying the Oracle webpage, notepad opens up and I get an error. I will google how to run a 32b version on a 64b os unless you happen to have an idea as to why I get that error. aight... this is gonna get nutty unless I condense a bit 1. I like Sky-RE, never played Perkus. Neither are in the tutorial for Skyrim legendary. IM thinking of staying with SkyRe since its older and prolly has more compatibility with other mods... Unless Skyproccer will patch either mod to be compatible with anything. -Thoughts? 2. Lets say for example sake I choose to use ASIS and SkyRe or Perkus... Couldnt I use SUM to patch instead of running reproccer? -I ask this because after installing the 64 bit Java, I ran Skyproc and nothing happened. I ran the SUM patcher only this time I got an error but it actually brought up a java window. Does that mean SUM works with the 64bit version? 3. Now lets get CRAZY... Is it possible to use Monster Mod (lore-friendly) with SIC, with OBIS With Revenge of the enemies, ASIS AND SkyRE or Perkus? 4. May I have a Tes5 merged brain patch from several of the long-time members here instead? That way Ill already know this stuff. By the way, just so ya know that I didnt just decide to start this an hour ago, I swear to Talos I have been reading up on this stuff hardcore and watching vids for well over two weeks in between work and life dude... I promise Im trying to do all that I can on my own... I MERGED REAL WATERS TODAY!!!!! YUP FO SHO!!! Put the script patch in and all after not seeing it in the drop-down list yeeeeaaaahhh boyyeeee :) Im am sooo dying to play its killing me, I hear my dad playin... argh! And after i get everything to work on my PC I gotta try and teach him HOW to do it (err Ill just do it for him :P)

Glad to find this place courtesy of Micheal from Gamer Poets/Youtube Have a fresh install ready to go am afraid of where to start. Got sick of re-installing Wrye, LOOT, Tes5, SKSE and MO so I finally grew a brain and created a back-up copy of Skyrim with all that **** installed already :) What caused this 3-day mess of constant re-installs all boils down to a reproccer issue in that no matter what I do/did, I cannot get the reproccer patch to run. Nothing happens. 3-4 days ago I ran it sort of by accident and got the pink patch screen but cancelled it since I didnt know wtf I was doing. After hours upon hours of reading, I got myself to the point where I thought I was ready to conquer it... To my dismay the .jar will no longer run. Neither thru MO nor if I run it from the Skyrim directory. All that being said I currently have a fresh Skyrim install including MO, LOOT, Tes5, Wrye, and SKSE. I am so apprehensive of installing anything at this point due to fear of having to start over again. Before all the re-installing the game ran fine for me, its presently running fine for my dad as well. The thing is... we both use around 80-100 mods. Before recently, neither of us knew that the reproccer.esp was a file that had to be run seperatly. It wasn't until I reached level 5 that I noticed a problem. I only received 1 perk. Then I started noticing issues with the weapon stats which then prodded me into some in-depth research at which point my mind was fried. ... I apologize in advance for any future questions I may ask... as they may be numerous. -Nick