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Occasional Loadscreen Hangups Preceeding CTDs
RoboticWater replied to Muladhara86's question in General Skyrim LE Support
Just glancing at your specs, I think I might see your problem. Your computer probably can't handle all the high-res meshes/textures. Try just disabling all your HD texture packs, SMIM, etc. and see if that fixes your first two problems. Also, your dual core processor might have trouble handling all the script mods that Skyrim Revisited adds (Footprints, Wet and Cold, Minty Lightning, etc.). As for your third problem. I would try starting a new game with your Vanilla profile. "Clean saves" aren't always so clean. In fact, uninstalling mods with scripts attached to them often leaves behind unattached scripts which (I think) can bog down your game (hence why Save Scalpel exists). So to make sure that your problem is entirely mod-related, start a totally new game with Vanilla Skyrim and see if you still get load screen freezes. If you still freeze up, then you're likely looking at a hardware issue. Either way, I would recommend investing in some better hardware. Most games today (especially a modded Skyrim) require 8GB of ram and a 4 core processor minimum. -
For clarification, my texture mods are mostly 1K-2K with a very occasional 4K (I think I only have a 4K skin texture). Of course, skin has a tendency to follow my character around so that could be contributing to memory problems. I also Run Skyrim from an SSD. I understand all of your concerns with ASIS and Skyre. I've dealt with my fair share of CTDs with this mod list on my previous run through, but they usually occurred after 3-5 hrs (and at that point I assumed the universe was just telling me to stop playing). Whenever I got CDTs on my old playthrough all the dynamic patches and gameplay mods went first, and they were consistently found innocent (at least of my immediate problems). As for mesh issues; I can't see why there would be one. If I reload the game in the same exact area, I can continue without issue (until about 50 minutes later), and one of my CDTs was in the Haven Bag, which I return to frequently. Unless the mesh only appears occasionally, or only acts up after the game has been running. But luckily, I think I might have found the problem. I forgot to close Firefox when playing those 2 times I played and apparently it takes up an abnormally large amount of memory. I closed it for another run and I was able to play for about 2 hours without crashing. Of course, 2 hours isn't enough to guarantee that Firefox is the culprit, so I'll keep testing. If my theory proves to be incorrect I think I'll try removing my sound mods. I'm relatively certain I fixed all the conflicts between AOS and Immersive Sounds but there could easily still be an error hiding away. If that doesn't work I'll remove ASIS. Hopefully, it doesn't have to come to the point where I have to remove Skyre (Skyrim really isn't that fun to me without it). But regardless of what happens, I'd like to thank everyone for their help. (Also sorry if the Firefox thing was the problem. Kind of a stupid reason to bring out the cavalry)
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Yea, I was afraid of that. I ran a session with Skyrim performance monitor and found that my VRAM usage was pretty high. I guess loading all those textures over a long period of time would eventually break the game. What's odd though, (and I probably should have mentioned this earlier) is that I had a save that accumulated about 30hrs with almost the exact same mod list and had no crashing issues until later on when I guess I added too much. After that I started from scratch with this one (re-install, etc.) so there shouldn't be any overlap. Now I'm just going through and deactivating mods (including texture/mesh replacers) which I added beyond the Skyrim Revisited guide, but as I said the crash only seems to happen after an hour so it'll take a while to find a culprit.
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How to find out which plugins are required for a save?
RoboticWater replied to rootsrat's question in General Skyrim LE Support
Are you using local saves on MO? Because I seem to remember local saves messing with external programs. I can see all my saves (global) in WB. -
I just started a new Skyrim character following the Skyrim Revisited: Legendary Edition guide and the Installing ASIS with Skyre guide and I've had a few CTDs. Both happened after about an hour of play (I checked the papyrus logs) and don't seem to have any sort of consistency to them. I've done as much conflict resolution as I could and I cleaned every esp LOOT recommended. I created a python script to find errors in my papyrus log and here's what it found on my last session: (# of occurrences : Error) [spoiler=Papyrus Errors] 8 [06/10/2014 - 05:33:03PM] Error: Unable to call Dispel - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type 4 [06/10/2014 - 05:42:34PM] Error: Unable to call GetSex - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type 4 [06/10/2014 - 05:32:40PM] Error: Property NPCTilma on script QF_SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest_02003DEF attached to SkyforgeSteelWeaponsQuest (AC440015) cannot be bound because <NULL form> (0003BDE9) is not the right type 13 [06/10/2014 - 05:32:40PM] Error: Property MGRitual04 on script uskpretroactive131script attached to USKPRetroactive131 (0201906F) cannot be bound because MGRitual04 (000CD987) is not the right type 13 [06/10/2014 - 05:32:40PM] Error: Property ExclusiveCellList on script avquestscript attached to AVQuestScript_qust (EF000D6D) cannot be initialized because the value is the incorrect type 25 [06/10/2014 - 05:32:40PM] Error: Property OBIS on script ObisFactions attached to OBIS_SPAWN (93018DAA) cannot be bound because OBIS (930177AF) is not the right type 1 [06/10/2014 - 06:03:59PM] Error: Unable to call RegisterForSingleUpdate - no native object bound to the script object, or object is of incorrect type 132 [06/10/2014 - 05:32:47PM] Error: Cannot be an ally of a None faction 132 [06/10/2014 - 05:32:47PM] Error: Cannot call SetAlly() on a None object, aborting function call The final entry: [06/10/2014 - 06:21:34PM] VM is thawing... The final error entry: [06/10/2014 - 06:14:00PM] Error: Cannot be an ally of a None faction Final entry on previous session: [06/09/2014 - 10:09:18PM] Warning: Assigning None to a non-object variable named "::temp10" stack:[Active effect 1 on (000B7F6C)].DraugrFXScript.OnGetUp() - "draugrfxscript.psc" Line 64 As far as I can tell, those two instances of crashing are unrelated (other than the fact that they are interior locations but I think that's just coincidental). Though I use a high quality ENB, I doubt that performance issues could be the cause. I don't see any noticeable lag/stuttering and I keep my rig well cooled. I'd like to do more testing but as I said, it takes about an hour for the crash to happen and I don't know any way to cause the crash myself. So my question is:a) Do you know how to fix thisb) If not, are there any tools which could help my find what's causing the crash. [spoiler=Specs]i7 3770k @4.3Ghz2 GTX 760s SLI12 GB RAMWindows 8.1 Again, I use LOOT so the order may seem off to you if you use BOSS.[spoiler=Load Order]Skyrim.esmUpdate.esmUnofficial Skyrim Patch.espDawnguard.esmUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.espHearthFires.esmUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.espDragonborn.esmUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.espSkyrim Project Optimization.esmFalskaar.esmWyrmstooth.espApachiiHair.esmApachiiHairFemales.esmXFLMain.esmApachiiHairMales.esmFantasy Soundtrack Project.espHighResTexturePack01.esp (Disabled because of Mod Organizer)HighResTexturePack02.esp (Disabled because of Mod Organizer)HighResTexturePack03.esp (Disabled because of Mod Organizer)Cutting Room Floor.espAMatterOfTime.espSkyUI.espDual Sheath Redux.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.espAshRocks.espBrows.espCelticMusic.espCeltic Music and FSP No Vanilla Patch.espAchieveThat.esp83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.espRun For Your Lives.espNo_stretching.esp (Disabled because of Mod Organizer)Beards.espXFLConfig.espAtlas Compass Tweaks.espLore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.espSerana.espTSOnTheSpot.espinfernoadze.espTradeBarter.espConvenient Horses.espUIExtensions.espELFX - Exteriors.espDr_BandolierDG.espInsanity's Sorrow.espDeadlyDragons.espAuto Unequip Ammo.espEpisodeParallax.espFootprints.espFootprints - Ash.espLordOfWar_TW2.espTairenSoulLayered.espHigh Level Enemies - Falskaar.espAHZmoreHUD.espBetter Dynamic Snow.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-ShackRoofFixesBDS.espMoss Rocks.espMoss Rocks_DB.espEnhancedLightsandFX.espELFX - Dawnguard.espORM-Arvak.espORM Convenient Alsvid.espFreckleMania.espRaceMenu.espRaceMenuOverlays.espRaceMenuPlugin.espCrystalSuncombo.espGlimmer.espSRTODragonbornParallax.espFantasySoundtrackProjectCombatMusic.espELFX - Dragonborn.espSkyFalls DB + FS Small Waterfalls.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.espSulfurRocks.espTSGLTR.espTSLCF1.espTSLCFbeta.espTSLCFgamma.espThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.espTheEyesOfBeauty.espWEBS extended.espWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.espSkyRe_Main.espAOS.espWetandCold.espWetandCold - Ashes.espdD - Enhanced Blood Main.espDeadlySpellImpacts.espImmersive Sounds - Footsteps.espImmersive Sounds - Weaponry.espAOS2_EBT Patch.espAOS Patch.espISFootsteps AOS Patch.espAOS2_WetandCold Patch.espRelightingSkyrim.espFS_UltimateAssortment.espRealisticWaterTwo.espAOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.espWatercolor_for_ENB_RWT.espFalskaar SkyRe Faction Patch.espClothing & Clutter Fixes.espComplete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.espSDO Full-LOD - The Morthal Swamp Complete.espImmersive Sounds - Aural Assortment.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures.espRealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.espSkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.espHigh Level Enemies.espHigh Level Enemies - Dawnguard.espSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.espRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.espOBIS.espOBISDB.espSkyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.espRemove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version - NH.espRelighting Skyrim - Update.espHigh Level Enemies - Dragonborn.espSkyRe_EncounterZones.espSFO - Expanded Diversity.espCCOR_IS_Aural_Assortment_Patch.espISAA SkyRe Patch.espCCOR_SkyRe_Patch.espMighty Magick AIO.espImmersive Sounds - Magic.espBetter Vampires ML.espCloaks - Dawnguard.espMighty Magick - SkyRe compatibility patch.espISMagic SkyRe Patch.espMM Overrides.espSkyRe_CraftingFix.espIS-AA Complete Crafting Overhaul Patch.espWhen Vampires Attack.espXFLDialogue.espkimono's witcher silver swords.espXFLPanel.espaMidianBorn_ContentAddon.espLore Weapon Expansion.espHothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.espBFT Ships and Carriages.espCCOR_IA7_Patch.espBDYEB.espCCO_WAFTrueWeapons_Patch.espCCO_SIC_Patch.espCloaks.esp1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.espLore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.espRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.espPoint The Way.espSMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.espAtlas Legendary.espSFO - Dragonborn.espSDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.espUnique Grasses_clippingfixer.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.espFSP - Dawnguard Edition.espFSP - Unique Towns & Locations.espDr_Bandolier.espLore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.espSkyRe_StandingStones.espProvincial Courier Service.espSkyRe_Races.espCCOR_SkyRe_Races_Patch.espSneak Tools.espStaticMeshImprovementMod-ShackRoofFixes.espRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.espSkyrim Flora Overhaul.espUnique Grasses.espSkyRe_EnemyAI.espXFLPlugins.espPilgrimsDelight.espThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.espHoldBorderBanners.espGildergreen Regrown.espSDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.espSkyRe_Combat.espApocalypse - The Spell Package.espForgottenMagic_Redone.espHavenBag.espApocalypse - SkyRe Compatibility Patch.espDummy.espHLE-CoS Patch.espaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.espAOS2_WAF Patch.espUnique Uniques.espAOS2_SkyRe Patch.espUnique Unique's_Skyre Patch.espCCOR_aMidianBorn_Patch.espdD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.espdD-DG-DB-Immersive Creatures EBT Patch.espdD-No Spinning Death Animation.espiHUD.espspelleraser.espAlternate Start - Live Another Life.espSR Conflict Resolution.espBashed Patch, 0.espPost Proc Patch.espASIS-Dependency.espPre ReProccer WAFR IA7 UU aMidianSS Content Addon Patch.espASIS.espAutomatic Variants.espReProccer.espDual Sheath Redux Patch.espPost ReProccer Fixes CCOR IA7 UU aMidianSS Content Addon Patch.espPostASISPatch.espqotsafans Miscellaneous ReProccer + Destruction Tweak Atronach 50 Patch.espReProccerDragonborn.esp I also use SSME.

