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Wing replied to CJ2311's topic in Step Skyrim LE Packs (retired)
Remember me? i had crashes in Whiterun a couple of weeks ago and it appeared at the time the problem was I was using Perfect Whiterun on top of REGS. It was suggested that I use Pines of Whiterun instead. At the time, I thought the problem was fixed and started my playthrough. It turned out crashes started occuring again in Whiterun. Since I was using other mods not in REGS or SRLE, I decided to start anew. I created profiles for Step Core+Extended, the Step Core+Extended+REGS, and Step Core+Extended+REGS+COT/Vividian. I started a new playthrough and the crashed reoccured in Whiterun with or without COT. It was so frustrating, I was at my wit's end. Then I saw a mention here that there was a problem with Dawn of Whiterun and CJ had stopped using it in his playthrough. He said there must have been something gone wrong in the latest update of DoW. Seeing that, I reinstalled the previous version of DoW. It fixed a crash that was occuring always at the same spot in my playthrough in Whiterun. I thought that I was good to go but then crashes started occurring again at other spots in Whiterun. In the end, I removed DoW completely and guess what, no more crashes in Whiterun. I could finally progress my playthrough in the city, even after reinstalling Pine of Whiterun prompted by keithinhanoi message posted on 10 april, and a few additional mods that I like although none that add new NPCs (apart from those in REGS). So it appears that all my troubles in Whiterun were caused from day one by Dawn of Whiterun (not only by the latest version but the one before also).I thought I would update you on my tribulations as it might be helpful if anyone has similar problems in Whiterun. It could be a good idea to remove Dawn of Whiterun completely from REGS (unless I'm the only one who encountered these problems, of course). Here's my load order including the additional mods from SRLE and elsewhere I use, if it is of interest to anyone. Cheers. [spoiler=Load order]Skyrim.esm ActiveUpdate.esm ActiveUnofficial Skyrim Patch.esp ActiveDawnguard.esm ActiveUnofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp ActiveHearthFires.esm ActiveUnofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp ActiveDragonborn.esm ActiveUnofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp ActiveFalskaar.esm ActiveWyrmstooth.esp ActiveApachiiHair.esm ActiveSkyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm ActiveAP Skyrim.esm ActiveClimatesOfTamriel.esm ActiveETaC - RESOURCES.esm ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm ActivemannyBlackRock.esm ActivemannyDragonhead.esm ActiveORS_MorthalPain.esm ActiveORS_SolitudeGate.esm ActiveWinterholdDestruction.esm ActiveStandaloneMaster.esm ActiveREGS - Resources.esm ActiveDSAMG - Miraak Music Fixes.esp ActiveRelightingSkyrim.esp ActiveRelighting Skyrim - Update.esp ActiveRelighting Skyrim - HearthFire.esp ActiveWeapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp ActiveMorning Fogs.esp ActiveRainbows.esp ActiveSplashofRain.esp ActiveExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp ActiveADS.esp ActiveAOS.esp ActiveAOS2_DGDB Patch.esp ActiveDragonShoutVoice.esp ActiveIHSS.esp ActiveImproved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Activerandomthunder.esp Activemintylightningmod.esp ActiveMintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp ActiveCutting Room Floor.esp ActiveTradeBarter.esp Active83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp ActiveAMatterOfTime.esp ActiveArs Metallica.esp ActiveArs Metallica - Dawnguard.esp ActiveArs Metallica - Hearthfire.esp ActiveArs Metallica - Dragonborn.esp ActiveAuto Unequip Ammo.esp ActiveBetter Skill and Quest Books Names.esp ActiveBirdsHFclean.esp ActiveBirdsofskyrim.esp ActiveBLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp ActiveBring Out Your Dead.esp ActiveChesko_WearableLantern.esp ActiveClamsDropPearls.esp ActiveDead Body Collision.esp ActiveDisease Description + DLC Merged.esp ActiveDual Sheath Redux.esp ActiveDungeonQuestAwareness.esp ActivefFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp ActiveFCO - Follower Commentary Overhaul.esp ActiveHoldBorderBanners.esp ActiveLanterns Of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard.esp Activemanny Lantern Caretakers.esp ActiveMore Salt Please + DLC merged.esp ActiveMoss Rocks + DB merged.esp ActiveMVABasic.esp ActiveORM-Arvak.esp ActivePilgrimsDelight.esp ActivePoint The Way.esp ActiveRabbitsPlus.esp ActiveRadiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp ActiveShootingStars.esp ActiveskyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp ActiveSkyrim Flora Overhaul.esp ActiveSkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp ActiveSMDropLitTorch.esp ActiveSwiftPotion.esp ActiveTraps Make Noise.espWetandCold.esp ActiveWetandCold - Ashes.esp ActiveChesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp ActiveFootprints.esp ActiveFootprints - Ash.esp ActiveNoxUE2.00.esp ActiveRaceMenu.esp ActiveRaceMenuPlugin.esp ActivetowConversation.esp ActiveSA_HFDBPlugin.esp ActiveSkyUI.esp ActiveiHUD.esp ActiveCustomizable Camera.esp ActivetowPov.esp ActiveiNeed.esp ActiveCloaks.esp ActiveCloaks - Dawnguard.esp ActiveElemental Staves.esp ActiveExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp ActiveImproved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp ActiveUNPNaughtyRemodel.esp ActiveArrowRecoverySystemOverhaul.esp ActiveAnother Sorting.esp ActiveASM-Soul Gems-Alternative.esp ActiveWeapons and Armor Fixes_Remade_ASM.espLock Overhaul.esp ActiveAdalMatar.esp Activequest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp ActiveApple garden.esp ActiveBetterDGEntrance.esp ActiveCollegeOfWinterholdImmersive.esp ActiveCWIDawnDragonPatch.esp ActiveDaggercross_Alley.esp ActiveDragonmournInn.esp ActiveGildergreen Regrown.esp Activetos_granitehall.esp ActiveHebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp Activehigh hrothgar overhaul.esp ActiveImmersive Orc Strongholds.esp ActiveInconsequential NPCs.esp ActiveInns and Taverns.esp ActiveMzarkWonders.esp ActiveDawnofRiften.esp ActiveNightingale Hall.esp Activequest_nomercy.esp ActiveORS_ChaptersLinker.esp ActiveORS_DremoraUpdate.esp Activequest_pitfighter.esp Activequest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp ActiveRun For Your Lives.esp ActiveWhen Vampires Attack.esp Activequest_seaofghosts.esp ActiveSky Haven Temple M&M3.esp ActiveSnowbound Acres.esp ActiveTheDomain.esp ActiveTheFrontier.esp ActiveThe Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp ActiveWhiterun Ferns.esp ActiveWindhelm Lighthouse.esp ActiveSkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp Active360WalkandRunPlus-RunBackwardSpeedAdjust.esp ActiveAchieveThat.esp ActiveAppropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-BSaQBPatch.esp ActiveBetter Skill and Quest Books Names_ASM.esp ActiveBlockSparkles.esp ActiveDistant DetailHF.esp ActiveDiversePriests.esp Activedynamic fires.esp ActiveFalskaarDawnguard.esp ActiveFalskaar Wildlife.esp ActiveFSS-Slight pause between lines.espGuard Dialogue Overhaul.esp ActiveGuardAnimationsGDO.esp ActiveSkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB + FS + WT.esp ActiveHeadtracking.esp ActiveSkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp ActiveSkytest USKP.esp ActiveConvenient Horses.esp ActivedD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp ActivedD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp ActiveSoul Gems Differ - E.esp ActiveTheChoiceIsYours.esp ActiveTheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp ActiveUnreadBooksGlow.esp ActiveaMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp ActiveDrinking Fountains of Skyrim.esp ActiveDrinking Fountains of Skyrim Sound.esp ActiveETaC - Complete.esp ActiveETaC - Complete LoS Patch.esp ActiveExpandedWinterholdRuins.esp ActiveHelgen Reborn.esp ActiveHelgen Reborn - Cyrodiil Frontier Patch.esp ActiveRavenRockExpanded.esp Activetos_amber_guard.esp Activetos_laintardale_hf.esp ActiveREGS - Better City Entrances.esp ActiveREGS - Better Docks.esp ActiveUnderstone Keep Repair.esp ActiveHearthfireChimneys - ETaC.esp ActiveChesko_Step418.esp ActiveOblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp ActivePrometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp ActivePrometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp ActiveUniqueBorderGates-DunmethPass.esp ActiveBetterDGEntrance-UniqueBorderGates-SilgradPass.esp ActiveUniqueBorderGates-TalosPass.esp ActiveDawnofWindhelm.esp ActiveBFT Ships and Carriages - HF.esp ActiveETaC - BFT Patch.esp ActiveProvincial Courier Service.esp ActiveRealisticRoomRental.esp ActiveBetterQuestObjectives-PersidRRentalPatch.esp ActiveREGS - Cities.esp ActiveREGS Patch - NSutR + RRR.esp ActiveREGS Patch - ORS.esp ActiveREGS Patch - CRF.esp ActiveREGS Patch - STEP Extended.esp ActiveEnhancedLightsandFX.esp ActiveELFX - Dawnguard.esp ActiveELFX - Dragonborn.esp ActiveCWIELnFXPatch.esp ActiveRRR_ELFX-Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp ActiveClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp ActiveSupreme Storms - Cot Version.esp ActiveCoT-WeatherPatch.esp ActiveCoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp ActiveCoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-40.esp ActiveCoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp ActivePureweather.esp ActiveVividian - Weather Patch - ESS.esp ActiveVividian - Diverse Weathers - CoT + PW + AOS.esp ActiveVividian - Extended Weathers - Pure weathers.esp ActiveVividian - AllinOne Presets.esp ActiveBFSEffects.esp ActiveDeadlySpellImpacts.esp ActiveShowRaceMenuAlternative.esp ActiveCombatDramaOverhaul.esp ActiveDual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp ActiveThe Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp ActivedD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp ActiveAnimations.esp ActiveBeards.esp ActiveBrows.esp Active3DNPC.esp ActiveREGS Patch - Riften NavFull.esp ActiveMoonAndStar_MAS.esp ActiveRRR_3DNPC-Patch.esp ActiveREGS Patch - 3DNPC.esp ActiveSPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp ActivemoveitLWT.espNonEssentialChildren.esp ActivedD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp ActiveTTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp ActiveAnimated Weapon Enchants.esp ActiveDawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp ActivegetSnowy.esp ActiveNo More Glowing Edges.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp ActiveRealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp ActiveWatercolor_for_ENB_RWT.esp ActiveSTEP Extended Patch.esp ActiveBashed Patch, 0.esp ActiveDual Sheath Redux Patch.esp ActiveAOS_Reduced_Reverb_Addon.esp Active -
pack A Real Explorer's Guide to Skyrim
Wing replied to CJ2311's topic in Step Skyrim LE Packs (retired)
Excellent suggestion for the trees. Less invasive than PW but enough well placed trees so Whiterun doesn't feel so bare. I love it. The game is running rock solid now. I know I have a lot of NPC but I love the added sense of immersion when the roads are crowded. Starting the playthrough now! I finally managed to do this for the nest. I think when I had tried before I was too far from the nest when I was pointing at it. The only ID I was getting was the sky's. I tried again today. I positioned myself straight under the nest looking up and there was no problem at all. Thanks again. -
pack A Real Explorer's Guide to Skyrim
Wing replied to CJ2311's topic in Step Skyrim LE Packs (retired)
I couldn't work out for the life of me how to to attach a file. I think it's because I was not using the full editor. In any case, it was late in my timezone so that's my excuse :-) I used MarkForDelete for getting rid of the floating sparrow, but it didn't seem to work for me for the floating nest. Hey CJ, it turned out that I was wrong about 3DNPC. The crashes in Whiterun came back. They didn't happen always at the same spot, but they kept happening out of the blue as I wandered the streets of the city. Looks lke your guess that there might have been a problem with Perfect Whiterun was correct. I removed PW and the crashes stopped. At least I tested it much longer than I did yesterday and didn't have any crash so far. In view of this, I moved 3DNPC back where REGS suggests. (and by the same token, I placed Immersive Wenches just after 3DNPC. I thought putting npc related mods at the bottom of NPC face mods was a good idea but from what you said, it might not be.) It looks like something must have been changed in REGS 3 that clashes with PW because I never had a crash with REGS 2. I continued using PW when I first installed REGS because I had read on the Dawn of Whiterun nexus page that it was compatible with PW apart from some minor clipping. Since DoW is part of REGS, I assumed that PW wouldn't cause any problem and it didn't until REGS 3. it's a shame that it clashes because I really like PW and Whiterun looks so bare without it. Still Whiterun has a different feel without the trees and you get nicer vistas here and there because the trees don't obscure the view. I'll get use to it. I'm almost ready to start a play through but since it looks like there may be a new REGS update tomorrow... I am not very experienced with all that stuff and wouldn't know where to begin in creating a patch from scratch. I had a look at the SR:LE conflict resolution page in the past but could not made any sense of it. I didn't notice that there was a video though. I might have a look again. Definetely a bird lover. I wouldn't have thought we were in a minority considering the number of downloads on the nexus Skybirds page :) That would be truly graet if you could PM me a patch. As I said above, I wouldn't have any idea how to create a patch myself. The Morning Fogs Refined/Rainbows/Splash of Rain /HD Rabbit Plus / Shooting Stars / Improved Puddles merge seem to work well. I can confirm that the three mods with MCM menus (Mornings/Splash/Shooting Stars) are working as intended. I didn't notice the rainbow/rabbits/puddles yet. Disease Description + DLC Merged is ok too. As for the other merged esp, they're untested, but they were small merge and should be ok. I used the Merge Plugins Script v1.6 in Tes5dit. Spoller added to my original post. Sorry about that. It was getting late (after midnight) when I created the post and didn't know how to do it. I wanted to simply attach a text file but couldn't even do that. I worked out both now. Sorry for replying so late to everyone. I'm either in a different timezone than most of you or you are all night owls. Once again thanks to everyone contributing to STEP/REGS. This is definitely the ultimate modders guide/bible. :) -
pack A Real Explorer's Guide to Skyrim
Wing replied to CJ2311's topic in Step Skyrim LE Packs (retired)
Hi Jarl, here's my load order. I have in fact a fair few extra mods in addition to Step Core, Extended and REGS. (I also used the Weather Pack and some stuff about the weather and lighting from SRLE, i.e. Vividian)I have a clean saved games without any mods just after the intro of the game as I arrived at Riverwood. That where I install all the packs and other mods for testing. So the crash at Whiterun was just as I entered the city for the first time. There's a scripted conversation between two characters in front of the forge as you entered the city. The crash occured a few times just as I was walking up the main road while the conversation was occuring or a bit after it. Since there was an autosave as I entered the city before the crash occured, I was able to reload to directly inside the city and if I remember well, I think I didn't crash when I did that. But if I tried to get inside the city directly coming from Riverwood, I crashed every time. So the crash seemed to occur only the first time in a new game I entered the city. Note: With the following load order and REGS v2, never had a crash. Cheers. PS: Like keithinhanoi said in regard to the problem with the ETac replacement esp, "At least the floating SkyBirds nest I got with ETaC is now sitting on the roof of the western entrance structure! Is there any chance that you could include SkyBirds in a future version of REGS and make a patch to fix this floating nest in Riverwood and also the bird that is standing in front of the inn (in vanilla, it is perched on the fence in front of the inn but with ETaC, it is floating a few feet away from the fence? A real explorer wouldn't want to miss those birds! ====================================== -
pack A Real Explorer's Guide to Skyrim
Wing replied to CJ2311's topic in Step Skyrim LE Packs (retired)
Hi, first of all thanks for all your work. This pack is fantastic! It would be virtually impossible to get all all these great mods working together in such a stable way without your pack. 1. Just to let you know that it appears that there is a problem with the ETaC-Complete.esp in the REGS ETaC replacer 3.02. With it, Riverwood is messed up. The wall at the entrance of the village is back at its vanilla position and some houses and doors are clipped. I changed the esp back to the one in REGs version 3.0 and that fixed the problem. So for the moment, I'll keep using the replacement ETaC-Complete.esp from 3.0 with all other esps from 3.02. 2. I was getting crashes when entering Whiterun after my update to REGS v3. I didn't have the problem with v2. After looking into it for a while, I think the problem was caused by 3DNPC.esp being too low in the load order. I followed your recommendation to place it at BOTTOM of "Overrides Late" when I updated to REGS 3.0. Before that, I had placed 3DNPC at the bottom of "NPC face mods" which is much earlier in the load order. So I switched it back to BOTTOM of "NPC face mods" and it seems to have fixed the problem. I haven't tested this extensively, but I still think it might be a good idea to load 3DNPC earlier that what you suggest. 3. I have a question in regard to SkyHaven Temple, I tried to disable The Paarthumax Dilemma but it creates a problem with the STEP extended patch so I prefer to forgo using Recruit More Blades. I was wondering if I could reinstall Sky Haven Temple Merchants and More instead. Would it be compatible with the rest of REGS 3.02? Once again, thanks for your great work. Wing