Octopuss - Come now, lets not start abusing any modders who have invested a lot of themselves in their work from either side. And lets not say the community has shown this or that. I would qualify as a mod user who rarely posts, normally as I know too little to be of much use, but can generally find out how to fix things by searching for information and by testing. I hope I am not a 'self-entitled leach'. I have huge gratitude and admiration for all the work people do here and elsewhere. The problem to me is not people finding a way to get something back for their efforts...and in this world the exchangeable token of money is legitimate (even if dangerous). Rather that there was no proper process or discussion or at least the chance to inclusively navigate around a better way to do this. It is an imposed and rigged method of achieving a legitimate ends. (Serving other agendas??) For e.g - I paid...I can't remember....say £40 for the game & dlc's. I am certainly willing (& have partly done so through donations) to pay that again as a contribution to modders. But how? Who to? Do I get to test them first? How to apportion etc etc. I don't know any precise answer, but the way to go would have been constructive engagement which at least attempted to include people. Anyhow I still thank ALL of you who have shared you time & skills in such an enthusing and generous manner.