Oh, i do use Wryee i just didn't understand how you meant for me to use it, i see what you meant now, have not checked it directly to see how it would work but wouldn't that mean that everything installed on MO would also be converted in to archives?(including the conflictive files), i'll have a looksie in the morning as am writing this rather late and without motivation to proceed to check it right now at the moment :). again thank you for the input.