STEP:Core Proposal/M

Ars Metallica-Smithing

Votes

• Template:No Makes non-vanilla changes to smithing and perks. Techangel85 (talk) 00:49, June 8, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 13:32, June 8, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:12, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:43, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Solist (talk) 10:32, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (more appropriate for a pack) Kelmych (talk) 20:24, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Auto Unequip Ammo

Votes

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:05, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:44, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 00:46, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 10:34, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:20, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Bring Out Your Dead

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:13, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:28, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Adds already present content to different locations (Depending on how "intrusive" it is) ~FarloTalk 14:45, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (I could go either way on this one) Techangel85 (talk) 00:49, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (Much like everyone else, I've always been rather indifferent about this mod. I use it simply because it's part of STEP - I haven't really ever paid any special attention to it. Solist (talk) 10:35, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Changes character objects of many NPCs, so without multiple separate patches many of the changes can be lost Kelmych (talk) 14:25, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No I didn't realize that the vanilla game did this until I saw this mod. I've been using this mod since it's been part of STEP, but I couldn't tell you whether it works properly or not since I've never really noticed it one way or another. In theory, I really like the idea behind the mod, but for me it's just too minor a detail to be worth the potential conflicts. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:29, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Candle Lanterns of the North

Votes

Template:No Not vanilla and not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:59, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:23, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:46, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:19, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Solist (talk) 10:48, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:28, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Clams Drop Pearls

Votes

Template:Yes corrects an inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:59, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:47, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:19, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 10:52, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:26, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 22:18, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Convenient Horses

Conflicts with anything that modifies Horse.nif or Shadowmere.nif without a compatibility patch such as Better Horses mod.

Warning message is the same as Footprints mod which leads to saved game bloat, errors, and possibly breaking the save:

IMPORTANT: Before uninstalling the mod disable it via console (StopQuest CH) or scripts will remain in your save!

Votes

Template:Yes Goes much further than vanilla and adds many more features, possibly deviating too far from vanilla. Most of the additions are optional and can be turned off or easily ignored (for example, I've never used any of the auto-looting features, horse armors, or horse inventory). The changes do improve functionality of horses in the game and are a huge improvement over the vanilla horses. Also, because all of the changes are centered on horseback riding, I don't think there is a high potential for conflict with other mods, and the changes don't really alter general gameplay. (inclined toward pack) Kryptopyr (talk) 13:55, June 8, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (barebones settings only) ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (with minimal settings) ~FarloTalk 14:50, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (not worth it if the result of users incorrectly uninstalling it is a broken game plus the potential for conflicts. I beg you guys to reconsider this one for pack only!) Techangel85 (talk) 00:35, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I've always felt this mod adds more than necessary in its core focus where just fixing horses would have been great, then optionals for the extra fluff. (Only if done so with the most bare-bones install possible; more inclined for this to be part of a STEP Pack though) Solist (talk) 16:21, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:27, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Death Cam Duration Options

Votes

Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:03, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:50, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:20, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Solist (talk) 16:22, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:28, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 14:38, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Disable Thieves Guild Autostart

If deemed a 'fix', this needs to go in sec D.

Votes

Template:No Not vanilla intention. Blocks users from certain aspects of the game. ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:51, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes For me, this is a fix. This doesn't block anything. It gives the player the choice to start the Thieves Guide quests or not by talking to the guy who autostarts it initially. As these quests have nothing to do with the main storyline, I feel this was an oversight in development. Some players may want nothing to do with the Guild and having it autostart is a complete annoyance. Techangel85 (talk) 00:33, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Agree with tech on this, I did not like being forced into having to do anything associated with that quest line my first playthrough of the game, and in subsequent even when playing a character that pursued the thieves guild, I didn't like how the quest was essentially forced on you. I prefer it to be something that is discovered/unlocked sort of like the Companion's Guild was. Solist (talk) 16:23, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (for me it's a yes if what tech and solist are saying is true, never tested it myself) Thecompiler (talk) 06:27, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes WilliamImm (talk) 11:57, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:44, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Drop Lit Torches

Votes

Template:Yes A sensible correction of vanilla gameplay ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:21, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 17:49, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:43, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 09:36, June 26, 2013 (MDT)

Dual Wield Parrying

Votes

• Template:No A sensible vanilla correction (but I defer to good points following ... does not adhere to the mandate) ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No An ingame loading screen suggests the non blocking is intended for the gameplay balance Thecompiler (talk) 01:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes Solist (talk) 17:49, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:29, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No I believe that the loading screen in question states "Dual wielding potentially doubles melee damage output... but prevents any kind of blocking." Kryptopyr (talk) 14:41, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I know dual wielders cannot block by design, but when you have mods that change combat to be reliant on blocking (there are plenty), then dual wielders (or even sword and spell people) are completely stuffed. Voting yes. WilliamImm (talk) 08:40, June 23, 2013 (MDT)

Dynamic Fires

Votes

Template:No An unnecessary esp for an unnecessary feature, not for Core STEP imo Thecompiler (talk) 01:30, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 02:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Causes issues of some fire "going out" that shouldn't. Such as hearths. Kryptopyr (talk) 08:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:58, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:23, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Solist (talk) 17:50, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:29, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Follower Trap Safety

Votes

Template:No This is nonessential and not necessarily an improvement ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Causes follows to not trigger traps Kryptopyr (talk) 08:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:24, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Solist (talk) 17:50, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (useful for companions, but may not needed in core STEP) Kelmych (talk) 20:26, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Gildergreen Regrown

Votes

Template:No Not an improvement; not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:27, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes WilliamImm (talk) 04:42, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Corrects inconsistency of storyline of sapling regrowing. Vanilla, you never see it grow. This mod, you do. Solist (talk) 17:51, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 18:08, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 06:29, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (vanilla handles graphics for this quest poorly, but even this isn't a total fix) Kelmych (talk) 14:33, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Guard Dialogue Overhaul

Votes

Template:Yes Changes are all vanilla-friendly and in most cases do seem to adhere to the original intentions of the game designers that just didn't get properly implemented in the vanilla game. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:01, June 8, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:41, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes This one and others that we are keeping for similar reasons really should go into Sec D - Fixes. ~z929669 Talk 02:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:28, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 17:53, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:33, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Lantern Caretakers

Votes

Template:No Supports a mod that adds new assets to the game ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:03, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:29, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:30, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Lock Overhaul

Votes

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:04, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Makes leveling "lockpicking" easier. Adds non-vanilla features Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Adds missing features that can be considered an oversight. (Why can't I swing my axe and bash the lock?) ~FarloTalk 15:06, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:34, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:34, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

More Salt Please

Votes

Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:05, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:07, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:35, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:30, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Move It Dammit

Can this be implemented via script or INI?

Mergable into Bash Patch, BTW, so ESP limitations are not an issue.

Votes

Template:Yes This is a decent 'correction' of a frequent vanilla problem ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (we can easily merge this in the STEP esp)Thecompiler (talk) 02:06, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (if it can be done via tweaks) ~FarloTalk 15:10, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (unless it can be done via tweaks) Techangel85 (talk) 01:36, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes This mod just changes four game settings. I'm for merging into patch. Kryptopyr (talk) 12:10, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (reasonable fix for some small vanilla problems; can easily be merged into a single patch with other small changes) Kelmych (talk) 20:29, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Can be merged into Bash patch, so ESP limitations are not a problem. WilliamImm (talk) 20:35, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

No NPC Greetings

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (I'd rather see it done via tweaks) ~FarloTalk 15:11, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:37, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I do feel some reduction in this distance is necessary. I've had to replay too many conversations due to random NPCs talking over the more-important conversation my character was trying to have. However, this mod only changes a single game setting. Is it worth an entire plugin slot? Kryptopyr (talk) 12:11, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:39, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (This is also easily mergeable in the STEP esp) Thecompiler (talk) 16:02, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Can be merged into Bash patch, so ESP limitations are not a problem. WilliamImm (talk) 20:34, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Non-Essential Children

Votes

Template:Yes corrects a vanilla inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:15, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:38, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes As far as i know, Dragonborn children are not addressed. This could break immersion (if it does work as intended yes, last time it didn't for me, maybe just my problem Thecompiler (talk) 06:31, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:43, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes The changes do apply to Dragonborn without needing a patch. As far as I'm aware, the only thing lacking is a unique inventory for Aeta (she'll simply have her normal vanilla inventory). Kryptopyr (talk) 09:43, June 26, 2013 (MDT)

Oblivion Gates

Votes

Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:11, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:38, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:40, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 14:47, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Paarthurnax Dilemma

Votes

Template:Yes 'Corrects' an oversight. Deviates from a vanilla quest line ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:09, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:19, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (Guys this one is no different than Gildergreen Regrown. So why is one being approved and the other one not?) Techangel85 (talk) 01:39, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes The way I see it: Gildergreen Regrown is not really addressing any oversights in that quest. There's really nothing wrong with either of the two vanilla options, so the changes GR makes are nice but not necessary. Paarthurnax Dilemma, on the other hand, fixes an incredibly frustrating aspect of the vanilla main quest, where many players run head-on into this immersion-breaking decision and wonder why the game doesn't give them the option to debate the matter with the Blades. I feel that the lack of any additional dialogue choices is a blatantly obvious omission that this mod corrects. Kelmych (talk) 14:35, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Run For Your Lives

Votes

Template:Yes a sensible 'correction' ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:08, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:19, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:42, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:39, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Skyrim Coin Replacer

Votes

Template:No Not vanilla intent. Arguably a 'correction' of a vanilla inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:09, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Adds new items that give a ton of money. ~FarloTalk 15:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:42, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Potential for conflicts due to changes made to cells, containers, leveled lists, etc. Kryptopyr (talk) 12:27, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:46, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Skyrim Uncapper

Votes

Template:Yes Pretty much a 'fix' IMO as long as its use is limited and specified. (I also think that this is a rare exception to the mandate ... think about older TES games, too) ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:23, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:43, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (if it is a fix "as it is" yes, otherwise it's not necessary)Thecompiler (talk) 06:32, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No I wouldn't play without this mod, but I think it flies in the face of vanilla intentions. Bethesda chose to address this issue with the "Legendary" skill reset. I personally hate the skill reset, but I don't believe that the Uncapper's solution is correcting a vanilla oversight. Kryptopyr (talk) 22:27, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (not consistent with vanilla but still very important; I agree with Kryptopyr that the "Legendary" skill reset seems silly) Kelmych (talk) 20:31, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

The Choice is Yours

Votes

Template:No Changes dialogues, quest requirements, and quests. ~FarloTalk 15:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Wasn't seeing a problem with this until that paragraph right above the GEMS badge. Wish the author would provide a version without those extra changes that go beyond simple fixes for autostarting quests. Techangel85 (talk) 01:47, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (love this mod, not for core for sure, but i hope to see this mantained)Thecompiler (talk) 06:33, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:35, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes The only quest that has a non-vanilla option to resolve it is Boethiah's Calling. The problem I ran into here was that in certain situations it's possible for Boethiah to appear and actually assign you the quest. While it makes sense to be able to just say 'no' and walk away from a regular person, when a Daedric prince tells you to do something, I felt that there really needed to be a consequence for saying no or else adding the refusal choice just wasn't realistic. Despite what the description says, it's very unlikely that I'll add further options to other quests. It just takes too long and there's still plenty of work to do in just correcting the auto-starting quests. Kryptopyr (talk) 09:45, June 26, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 17:05, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Traps Make Noise

Votes

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:48, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 17:05, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:29, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Can be merged into Bash patch, so ESP limitations are not a problem. WilliamImm (talk) 20:34, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 09:46, June 26, 2013 (MDT)

Wearable Lanterns

Votes

Template:No Not a vanilla intent ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:02, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:48, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 12:28, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:46, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Lanterns for Caravans

Votes

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Plausible that caravans did have lanterns to help them see. Most did back in the day in our realm. Techangel85 (talk) 01:50, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 12:28, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:38, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 17:05, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Lanterns for Guards

Votes

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:27, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:50, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 12:31, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:35, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 17:05, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

When Vampires Attack

Arguments

• Template:Yes (Kelmych)

Votes

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:12, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes fixes behavior that should have been in vanilla Kryptopyr (talk) 08:53, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:51, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:37, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 17:05, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Wet & Cold

Votes

Template:No Potentially unsafe for using the cloaking method, and a bit advanced mod to be in Core STEP. I recommend adding Get Snow in Core STEP (it doesn't use scripts and it's very light), and instruct to remove it if installing the Pack with W&C Thecompiler (talk) 01:42, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Though I agree this might be too script heavy for Core, most of the features I feel are oversights from vanilla. Techangel85 (talk) 01:54, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:36, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 15:30, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 17:05, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Wet & Cold - Ashes

Votes

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:10, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:30, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:55, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 14:36, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 15:31, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 17:05, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Basically, Wet&Cold for Solenthiem (or whatever it was spelled). If we are dropping that, then we can drop this one too. WilliamImm (talk) 19:52, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Review

General Information

Below are the results of the voting thus far (6/26/13). Included are some notes from the votes as well as some quick statistics.

Total Current Mods: 238 Total Reduced to: 152 Total Reduction: ~36%

SECTION D - Fixes

STEP Core

• Ancient Nord Armor Fix
• Appropriately Attired Jarls
• Argonian Decapitation Fix
• Bowlegged Jump Fix
• Brawl Bugs Patch

• Enhanced Blood Testures (EBT) include all of the fixes from this mod. Consider moving EBT up in the installation order and removing this mod.

• Consistent Older People
• Cursor Fix
• Dead Body Collision

• Consider using no spell version

• Elys AltF4
• Fast Travel Timescale Fix

• This fix should be researched to figure out if it can be done via INI tweaks

• Fuz Ro D'oh
• Nitpick
• Skyrim Project Optimization
• Tail Twist Fix
• Unofficial Skyrim Patch
• Unofficial Dawnguard Patch
• Unofficial Hearthfire Patch
• Unofficial Dragonborn Patch
• Unofficial High Resolution Patch
• Acquisitive Soul Gems
• Trade & Barter

• For only the fixes, use the .esp file from the regular version but don't activate the mod in the MCM menu.

• Weapon & Armor Fixes

STEP Pack

• Dual Sheath Redux
• Distant Decal Fix

• Mainly fixed by the USKP. Should be considered for complete removal.

• Even Better Quest Objectives
• Realistic Ragdolls & Force (because Maximum Skeleton was mvoed to Pack)
• Maximum Skeleton

Current Mods: 27 Reduced to: 22 Reduced: ~19%

SECTION E - Interface

STEP Core

• Better Dialogue Controls
• Better MessageBox Controls
• Disease Descriptions

• Possibility for WilliamImm to provide a version that just lists the physical symptoms and some of the gameplay effect.

• High Quality 3D Map
• Quality World Map
• Race Menu
• Skill Interface

• vanilla-friendly option only

• SkyUI
• Unknown Enchants

STEP PACK

• Altar Descriptions
• Dungeon Quest Awareness
• Immersive HUD
• Interface Key Tweaks

• Should be considered to be moved to Utilities

• Lore-Based Loading Screens
• Main Font Replacement
• No Boring Wait Menu
• No Menu & Loading Smoke
• Not Another Colored Map Icon Mod
• Spinning Skyrim Emblem
• Time On Loading Screen
• Unique Region Names

Deadlocked

• Lockpicking Interface (same amount of votes for each)

Current Mods: 23 Reduced to: 9 Reduced: ~61%

STEP Core

• HRDLC Optimized
• Better Dynamic Snow
• Detailed Chests
• No Stretching
• Ruins Clutter Improvement
• Better Rocks & Mountains
• Static Mesh Improvement Mod
• HD Miscellaneous Items
• Tobe's Hi-Res Textures
• Food & Ingredients

Deadlocked/Unknown

• Skyrim HD

• Consider using only a hand selected set of these textures like SR

• Serious HD

• Consider using only a hand selected set of these textures

Current Mods: 12 Reduced to: 10 Reduced: 17%

STEP Core

• Snow & Rocks HD
• AOF Detailed Mountains
• AOF Farmhouses
• Skyrim Flora Overhaul

• Basic edition only

• Bumpy Inn & Shop Signs
• Chimneys for Skyrim
• Dragon Glyphs-Fixed
• Enhanced Night Skyrim

• No Galaxy, medium stars

• HD Enhanced Terrain
• High Quality LODs
• Hybrid's Plants & Herbs
• Improved Puddles
• Moss Rocks
• Point the Way
• Real Ice
• Realistic Mushrooms
• Realistic Tundra Moss
• Trees HD
• Visible Windows

• Should research options to provide the best replacement to vanilla for each location

• WATER
• Whiterun Trellis Redesigned
• Windmills Resized

STEP Pack

• Distant Detail

• Considered for complete removal or replacement by The Skyrim Distance Overhaul LOD Improvement

• Footprints
• Lanterns Of Skyrim
• Moon Size Tweaks

• Possibly provide instructions how to replicate this into a single file in TES5Edit

• Vibrant Auroras

Deadlocked/Unknown

• Legible Road Signs (too many conflicting votes)
• Re-Defined Dungeons (everyone seems indifferent on this one)

Current Mods: 29 Reduced to: 22 Reduced: ~24%

STEP Core

• Bellyache's Creature Pack
• Realistic Hair

• Compare with HD Lore Friendly Hair

• AOF Believable Hair

• Compare with HD Lore Friendly Hair

• Beards
• Bellyache's Dragons
• Better Beast Races
• Better Freckles
• Breathing Idles
• Brows
• Cover Khajiits
• Dawnguard Rewritten-Arvak
• Female Vampires Have Fangs
• Frost Atronach HD
• Ice Wraith
• New Children
• Better Male Feet
• Natural Eyes

STEP Pack

• 101 Bugs
• Antz in my Pantz
• Birds & Flocks
• Birds of Skyrim

• Consider for complete removal from STEP

• Improved Foot Wraps
• More Village Animals
• Rabbits Plus

Deadlocked/Unknown

• Diverse Priests (deadlock)
• Pond Fish (too many "yellows")
• Xenius Character Enhancement (too many yellows)
• XCE-Dawnguard (too many yellows)

Current Mods: 28 Reduced to: 17 Reduced: ~39%

STEP Core

• Book of Silence
• Explosive Bolts Visualized
• Closer Quivers & Longer Arrows
• Elemental Staffs
• Elven Weapons for Silence
• Weapon De-LARP Project
• Greatsword Sheaths & Scabbards
• Improved Closefaced Helmets
• Jewels of the Nord
• Nightingale Prime

• Leather version only

• Not Really HD-Mask of Clavicus Vile
• Shield of Ysgramor
• Ultimate HD Torch

STEP Pack

• Accingite Vos

• Consider for complete removal from STEP

• Better Circlets
• Daedric Armor & Weapons

Current Mods: 16 Reduced to: 13 Reduced: ~19%

STEP Core

• Better Turn Animation
• Enchantment Effect Replacer
• Enhanced Blood

• Includes all of the Brawl fixes already

• Enhanced Projectile Soul Trap
• Finer Dust
• Improved Weapon Impact Effects
• Lightning During Thunder Storms
• No Spinning Death Animation
• Realistic Smoke & Embers
• Rune Weapon FX
• Running With Bows
• Skyrim Sunglare

• No lens flare version only

• Ultimate HD Fire Effects

STEP Pack

• Animated Weapon Enchants
• Burn Freeze & Shock Effects
• Dual Wield Blocking Animations
• New Idles for Skyrim
• Rainbows
• Shooting Stars
• Skyrim Performance Plus

Deadlock/Unknown

• Deadly Spell Impacts (deadlock)

Current Mods: 21 Reduced to: 13 Reduced: ~38%

STEP Core

• Better Shadowmarks
• Detailed Rugs
• Enhanced Dragon Bones
• HD Baskets
• HD Linens
• HD Ore & Ingots
• HD Sacks
• HQ Skyrim Map
• Intricate Spider Webs
• New Thinner Torch
• Not Really HD-Display Case
• Not Really HD-Keys
• Pilgrim's Delight
• Realistic Paper
• Septim HD
• Shrines HD
• Silly Level of Detail-Potions & Poisons

• Consider ceramic version

• Silly Level of Detail-Wine Cellar
• Skyrim Redesigned
• Super Realistic Ore
• Sweet Mother

STEP Pack

• The 418th Step
• Better Bones
• Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored
• Designs of the Nords
• Destructible Bottles

• Consider for complete removal from STEP

• Radiant & Unique Potions & Poisons

Deadlock/Unknown

• Realistic Instruments (deadlock)
• Soul Gems Differ (deadlock)

Current Mods: 29 Reduced to: 21 Reduced: ~28%

STEP Core

• Activate Fail Noise Removal
• Better Animal Footsteps
• Better Bards
• Better Horse Pain Sounds
• Better Weapon Swings
• Heart of the Beast
• Improved Combat Sounds
• Improved Horse Steps
• Realistic Bow Sounds
• Realistic Crossbow Sounds
• Realistic Wolf Howls
• Smooth Blade Draw & Sheathe
• Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge

STEP Pack

• Ambient Seagulls

• Should be cosidered for complete removal from STEP

• Clanking Armor
• Immersive Thunder
• Silent Skyrim
• Sounds of Skyrim-Dungeons
• Sounds of Skyrim-Wilds
• Sounds of Skyrim-Civilization
• Thundering Shouts

Current Mods: 21 Reduced to: 13 Reduced: ~38%

STEP Core

• Auto Unequip Ammo
• Clams Drop Pearls
• Convenient Horses

• Bare minimal installation only

• Disable Thieves Guild Autostart
• Drop Lit Torches
• Gildergreen Regrown
• Guard Dialogue Overhaul

• Consider moving to Fixes

• Move It Dammit
• No NPC Greetings
• Non-Essential Children
• Paarthurnax Dilemma
• Run For Your Lives
• Skyrim Uncapper
• Traps Make Noise
• When Vampires Attack

STEP Pack

• Ars Metallica-Smithing
• Candle Lanterns of the North
• Death Cam Duration Options
• Dual Wield Parrying
• Dynamic Fires

• Consider for complete removal from STEP

• Follower Trap Safety
• Lantern Caretakers
• Lock Overhaul
• More Salt Please
• Oblivion Gates
• Skyrim Coin Replacer
• The Choice is Yours
• Wearable Lanterns
• Lanterns for Caravans
• Lanterns for Guards
• Wet & Cold
• Wet & Cold - Ashes

Deadlock/Unknown

• Bring Out Your Dead (too many undecided)

Current Mods: 32 Reduced to: 13 Reduced: ~59%