STEP:Core Proposal/G: Difference between revisions

Template:Yes This mod corrects an oversight in vanilla and is a lore-friendly, immersive improvement. High likelihood that this mod may conflict with mods added by packs. Some packs may wish to add mods that enhance or expand the cities and towns. Kryptopyr (talk) 09:49, June 8, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kry is right, but Packs can also contain instructions on which mod remove from Core STEP to prevent incompatibilities (changed idea) Thecompiler (talk) 01:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 21:40, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (useful, but might be better for the new option pack) Kelmych (talk) 19:16, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Distant Detail

Votes

Template:Yes (undecided, i've heard it could cause issues) Thecompiler (talk) 01:16, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Not compatible with Hearthfire Techangel85 (talk) 21:42, June 9, 2013 (MDT) (I recommend moving to the pack and having both options available for both Hearthfire and non-Hearthfire users because there is a separate mod that is compatible with Hearthfire.)

Template:Yes (undecided, but if we include it, I feel that we should also include a link to the Hearthfire version.) Kryptopyr (talk) 18:45, June 12, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No The lack of including this mod is infinitesimally noticeable ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (problems plus somewhat limited improvements) Kelmych (talk) 19:10, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Agree with Kryptopyr Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Limited improvements. Going to remove this from SR in the next round likely, but evaluating The Skyrim Distance Overhaul as a more expansive alternative. Author still appears to be recently active. ESPs only, not the ini tweaks. Neovalen

Dragon Glyphs-Fixed

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla Techangel85 (talk) 21:44, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:15, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:15, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Enhanced Night Skyrim

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla. Fixes lack of stars seen from low-light areas such as in the Skyrim realm. I feel that this is a fix because when you have very little light pollution, you should be able to see more stars than you see in the vanilla game. Techangel85 (talk) 21:50, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes STEP currently recommends "Medium Stars." I feel that the "Lower Stars" version is both more realistic and the closest to being an enhancement of vanilla without moving too far toward a fantasy appearance. (yes to stars, no to galaxy) Kryptopyr (talk) 16:17, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Agree no galaxy ... but I vote for medium to high stars, because we are biased by light pollution. In a skyrim-like place, without electricity, many more stars are visible. I have been to places where a city is not within 100 miles. Very surreal! ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

I've also had the privilege of traveling to remote areas, and while the stars are stunning, the numbers of visible stars are simply not as exaggerated as this mod would suggest. The unaided human eye is only capable of seeing about 3,000 stars at any one time even in the best possible viewing conditions. And Skyrim is far from having no light pollution...don't forget those two HUGE moons. Even if we go with the tweak that reduces the size of each moon by half, they are still many times larger than our moon. With two moons of that size, Skyrim's sky would be constantly awash with light pollution to a degree that would likely equal some of our larger cities. (kryptopyr)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Medium Stars. Neovalen

Footprints

Votes

Template:No Potentially unsafe, applies cloak effect, needs confirmation Thecompiler (talk) 01:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Uninstallation

To disable the scripting you may open the console and enter "setstage footprintsQuest 99". Disabling or removal of the ESP during a save may break your save permanently. This is Bethesda's official stance, due to how data, scripts especially, are permanently attached to your savegame. Once the options menu is implemented in 1.0, you will no longer need to run the console command, but simply disable it from the menu.

Techangel85 (talk) 22:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 13:47, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 20:06, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I can't live without this mod and it's never given me trouble. That said, may be too much for core. Neovalen

HD Enhanced Terrain

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla distant terrain. Techangel85 (talk) 22:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 16:18, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:12, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Has anyone compared this to the latest Enhanced Distant Terrain? This mod replaced it but that mod has been updated twice since. Neovalen

High Quality LODs

Votes

Template:Yes Improvement of vanilla LODs Techangel85 (talk) 22:04, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Works hand-in-hand with HQ 3D map Kryptopyr (talk) 16:19, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 13:48, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Hybrid's Plants & Herbs

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla Techangel85 (talk) 22:05, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:16, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Improved Puddles

Votes

Template:Yes The author claims it also contain fixes to the vanilla puddles, need confirmation (for now) Thecompiler (talk) 01:14, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 22:06, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes revised puddles are much better than really ugly vanilla ones but still not as good as hoped for (which might not be possible with Skyrim engine) Kelmych (talk) 13:57, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Lanterns Of Skyrim

Votes

Template:No Clearly adds to vanilla without it being an oversight in development. This can break immersion for some; however, add it for others. Should be in the pack. Techangel85 (talk) 21:21, June 7, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 09:52, June 8, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 13:58, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Definitely in a pack. Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Neovalen

Legible Road Signs

Votes

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes V2 is improvement from vanilla. V3 takes the mod too far from vanilla (No to V3 but Yes to V2) Techangel85 (talk) 22:10, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I'm not sure I see all that much difference between V2 & V3 as compared to vanilla, and the change log sounds like V3 fixed several issues with V2, it wasn't just a change in appearance/style. Kryptopyr (talk) 08:46, June 14, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No I really don't like this mod. It looks like somebody just typed on a piece of paper and pasted it to the sign. (which is what was actually done :lol: ) I VASTLY prefer the HRDLC version. ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes No opinion - but I think we should bring up Hanna's Roadsigns Redone again as an alternative to this mod. WilliamImm (talk) 18:55, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (there are several alternatives we should consider, and this isn't a lot better than vanilla) Kelmych (talk) 19:13, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Moon Size Tweaks

Votes

Template:No Is the x0.5 size that STEP recommends a lore-friendly change? I've personally never felt there was a real need to change the moon size. This mod uses two .esp files to change two game settings. We just replaced Realistic Crime Radius with changes via Wrye Bash. If these size changes are desirable, then is it possible to do something similar for these game settings? Kryptopyr (talk) 08:06, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 22:13, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 13:57, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (the tweak can be incorporated in the STEP esp, and i feel it fixes the overly huge moons) Thecompiler (talk) 16:11, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669

Talk 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No We should provide instructions as to how to replicate this mod using TES5edit (in a single file), not waste more ESP slots. WilliamImm (talk) 19:01, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Agree with WI. Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Neovalen

Moss Rocks

Votes

Template:No Not a vanilla oversight, just adds mosses to rocks. Techangel85 (talk) 22:19, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (could go either way) Kryptopyr (talk) 09:00, June 14, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I think the fact that the rock faces are clean and lack moss could be considered an oversight. (i consider this a very pleasant addition, it breaks the mandate, but we could do an exception couldn't we?) Thecompiler (talk) 16:12, June 19, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I view this as a detail that Beth never addressed. Great mod, Perfectly consistent with the mandate IMO. ~z929669

Talk 17:32, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:15, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Point the Way

Votes

Template:Yes I feel this to be an actual fix. Techangel85 (talk) 22:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (if this is an actual fix, and not just adding additional signs, then I'm in favor. If it's just adding new signs, then my vote is no.) Kryptopyr (talk) 09:03, June 14, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No I have never been to a national park and found that every crossroads has a sign telling you where you are and where you could be going. You have to use a map or the Sun. ... and this is Skyrim, folds. :P ~z929669

Talk 17:32, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Who wants to be lost? Same reason why we have EBQO... WilliamImm (talk) 18:57, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (road signs pointing to different towns/villages (and Rome itself) were common in the middle ages at least wherever Rome had ruled or influenced) Kelmych (talk) 19:27, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Real Ice

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement from vanilla with the correct options Techangel85 (talk) 22:28, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 09:05, June 14, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:32, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:14, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Realistic Mushrooms

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla. Where textures differ, they are more accurate. Techangel85 (talk) 22:30, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:17, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Never been a big fan ~z929669

Talk 17:38, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (small improvement) Kelmych (talk) 19:18, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Realistic Tundra Moss

Votes

Template:Yes HD improvement of vanilla Techangel85 (talk) 22:31, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:18, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:38, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:19, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Re-Defined Dungeons

Votes

Template:Yes (i could go either way) Thecompiler (talk) 01:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I feel this to be a HQ improvement of vanilla Techangel85 (talk) 22:34, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (undecided; I do like many of the textures, but a few are overly-defined for my taste) Kryptopyr (talk) 09:19, June 14, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Never been a big fan. Other mods address many of these textures as well, and HRDLC is not bad. ~z929669

Talk 17:38, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (parts of it are better but not all) Kelmych (talk) 19:21, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Indifferent. Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Piecemeal... some good some bad. Beauty of Skyrim - Dungeons was just released, might be worth a look. Neovalen

Trees HD

Votes

Template:Yes (changed idea, still undecided) (talk) 01:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Vanilla friendly, HD retexture Techangel85 (talk) 01:16, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 09:32, June 14, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes the tree bark in this pack is so vastly superior that it makes my kidneys hurt. ~z929669

Talk 17:38, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:19, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Much better than Vurt's trunks. Neovalen

Vibrant Auroras

Votes

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Simply changes brightness and saturation of auroras Kryptopyr (talk) 07:53, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 22:38, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 13:56, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669

Talk 17:38, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Neovalen

Visible Windows

Votes

Template:Yes Vanilla friendly improvement of window glass Techangel85 (talk) 22:40, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:18, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 13:55, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (medium please) ~z929669

Talk 17:38, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Gritty. Neovalen

WATER

Votes

Template:Yes Vanilla water is awful, this mod is basically a fix imo Thecompiler (talk) 01:19, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 07:53, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (I need to finish up my water mod compare! Keep forgetting about it. lol) Techangel85 (talk) 22:41, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:42, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (but I'm still waiting for the Tech's Water vs Pure Water conclusions) Kelmych (talk) 19:17, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Tried both this and Pure Waters, this blows it out of the water (rimshot!). Neovalen

Whiterun Trellis Redesigned

Votes

Template:Yes No brainer improvement Thecompiler (talk) 01:58, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 22:42, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:19, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669

Talk 17:42, June 20, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 19:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

Windmills Resized

Votes

Template:Yes Definite improvement over vanilla (also agree with Kelmych about the size. I use the normal version.) Kryptopyr (talk) 09:53, June 8, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Note should recommend using the optional version to avoid a clipping issue Thecompiler (talk) 01:56, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 22:43, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I prefer the normal version and the mod that moves one windmill since the smaller optional blade seems too small Kelmych (talk) 13:54, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Solist (talk) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Neovalen

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 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[AOF Detailed Mountains]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} Still the best, imo. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[AOF Farmhouses]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:08, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes|yellow}} Another piecemeal use by me... [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Skyrim Flora Overhaul]] ==
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 : {{Yes}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} Basic Edition. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Bumpy Inn & Shop Signs]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:08, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Chimneys for Skyrim]] ==
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 : {{yes|yellow}} (useful, but might be better for the new option pack) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:16, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Distant Detail]] ==
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 : {{no}} (problems plus somewhat limited improvements) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:10, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes|yellow}} Agree with Kryptopyr [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{no}} Limited improvements. Going to remove this from SR in the next round likely, but evaluating [http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/19446 The Skyrim Distance Overhaul] as a more expansive alternative. Author still appears to be recently active. ESPs only, not the ini tweaks. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Dragon Glyphs-Fixed]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:15, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Enhanced Night Skyrim]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} Medium Stars. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Footprints]] ==
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 : {{no}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 20:06, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{no}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes|yellow}} I can't live without this mod and it's never given me trouble. That said, may be too much for core. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[HD Enhanced Terrain]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:12, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes|yellow}} Has anyone compared this to the latest Enhanced Distant Terrain? This mod replaced it but that mod has been updated twice since. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[High Quality LODs]] ==
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 : {{yes}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Hybrid's Plants & Herbs]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Improved Puddles]] ==
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 : {{yes}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Lanterns Of Skyrim]] ==
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 : {{no}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 17:28, June 20, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{no}} Definitely in a pack. [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{no}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Legible Road Signs]] ==
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 : {{no}} (there are several alternatives we should consider, and this isn't a lot better than vanilla) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:13, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Moon Size Tweaks]] ==
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 : {{no}} We should provide instructions as to how to replicate this mod using TES5edit (in a single file), not waste more ESP slots. [[User:WilliamImm|WilliamImm]] ([[User talk:WilliamImm|talk]]) 19:01, June 20, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{no}} Agree with WI. [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{no}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Moss Rocks]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:15, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Point the Way]] ==
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 : {{yes}} (road signs pointing to different towns/villages (and Rome itself) were common in the middle ages at least wherever Rome had ruled or influenced) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:27, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Real Ice]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:14, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Realistic Mushrooms]] ==
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 : {{yes|yellow}} (small improvement) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:18, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Realistic Tundra Moss]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:19, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Re-Defined Dungeons]] ==
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 : {{yes|yellow}} (parts of it are better but not all) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:21, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes|yellow}} Indifferent. [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes|yellow}} Piecemeal... some good some bad. Beauty of Skyrim - Dungeons was just released, might be worth a look. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Trees HD]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:19, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} Much better than Vurt's trunks. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Vibrant Auroras]] ==
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 : {{no}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 17:38, June 20, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{no}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{no}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Visible Windows]] ==
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 : {{yes}} (medium please) ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 17:38, June 20, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} Gritty. [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[WATER]] ==
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 : {{yes}} (but I'm still waiting for the Tech's Water vs Pure Water conclusions) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:17, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} Tried both this and Pure Waters, this blows it out of the water (rimshot!). [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Whiterun Trellis Redesigned]] ==
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 : {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 19:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]
 == [[Windmills Resized]] ==
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 : {{yes}} I prefer the normal version and the mod that moves one windmill since the smaller optional blade seems too small [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 13:54, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
 : {{yes}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 20:59, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
+: {{yes}} [[User:Neovalen|Neovalen]]