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: {{no}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)
: {{no}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)


== [[Rainbows]] ==
==== Votes ====
: {{no}} Adds new content to vanilla; not an oversight. [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:42, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes|yellow}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 13:34, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
: {{no}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 13:55, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
: {{no}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)
== [[Realistic Smoke & Embers]] ==
==== Votes ====
: {{yes}} HQ vanilla-friendly replacement [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:42, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 21:54, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
:{{yes}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)
== [[Rune Weapon FX]] ==
==== Votes ====
: {{yes|yellow}} Changes vanilla effects on two weapons; however, can be seen as a fix. (I could go either way on this one) [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:47, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes}} Let's just say that the glow can be overly bright in some cases and leave it at that. [[User:WilliamImm|WilliamImm]] ([[User talk:WilliamImm|talk]]) 19:28, June 19, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes|yellow}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 20:44, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
: {{no}} Not necessary. The style is also of an enchantment effect that many of you propose to replace with [[Enchantment_Effect_Replacer]], which I also do not advocate with one exception. This would be an inconsistency. ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)
== [[Running With Bows]] ==
==== Votes ====
: {{no}} Not a fix, just an animation change. Other mods exist that do the same as this mod which would conflict. [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:49, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 21:52, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes}} Perhaps not strictly a fix, but a definite improvement over the vanilla animation that stays true to the vanilla style. I'm not sure how this is any different than Bowlegged Jump Fix. Any conflicts with mods added by packs would result in the animation simply being overwritten. Or the pack can direct the user to uninstall this mod to prevent incompatibilities. [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 20:44, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes}} This is a 'correction'. We want to avoid downstream conflicts, but only when those conflicts are complex (i.e., secondary effects). This is a "primary-effect" resource conflict (i.e., as krypt notes, it is a direct vanilla replacer that can itself be directly replaced), so it will not conflict in any secondary way with downstream mods, AFAIK. ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)
== [[Shooting Stars]] ==
==== Votes ====
: {{no}} Adds content not present in vanilla. [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:50, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
: {{no}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 13:31, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
: {{no}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)
== [[Skyrim Performance Plus]] ==
==== Votes ====
: {{yes}} Reduces vanilla textures with little loss of quality. Will actually improve performance on some systems. [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:51, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 13:30, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 13:57, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
: {{no}} Since this decreases resolution that may be noticeable in some cases, it counters what we are doing elsewhere with graphical enhancement. Therefore, I see this as optional for mid-lower-end systems. STEP:Core, by definition, is not 'optional', so this should go into a "Performance Pack", IMO. ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)
== [[Skyrim Sunglare]] ==
==== Votes ====
: {{yes|yellow}} I think the lens flare is too cinematic and rather immersion-breaking (the player is not supposed to be looking at the sun through a lens). I do think the "no lens flare" version is an improvement over vanilla. [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 17:41, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
: {{yes|yellow}} (non-flare version only) [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:52, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
: {Yes|yellow}} No lense flare version only. ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|25px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)


== [[Ultimate HD Fire Effects]] ==
== [[Ultimate HD Fire Effects]] ==

Revision as of 17:05, June 23, 2013

Animated Weapon Enchants

Votes

Template:Yes Improved enchant shaders that are vanilla friendly Techangel85 (talk) 01:04, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No Much brighter and more visually distracting than the vanilla effects. Kryptopyr (talk) 12:56, June 19, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No Kelmych (talk) 20:39, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Better Turn Animation

Votes

Template:Yes Smooths turning motionsTechangel85 (talk) 01:07, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 13:31, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Burn Freeze & Shock Effects

Votes

Template:Yes Can be debated as a vanilla oversight. (I can go either way on this one) Techangel85 (talk) 01:11, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 13:50, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No (the mod still introduces minor issues/glitches, i don't fell should be considered core) Thecompiler (talk) 16:05, June 19, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No Ditto to TC's comment. Also, this mod makes some pretty blatant changes to various vanilla play styles. ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No (can have noticeable effect on VRAM use and performance) Kelmych (talk) 20:40, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Deadly Spell Impacts

WARNING: To uninstall you must have a save where there are no spell impacts present. If you cannot load up your save, reinstall this mod, load up the game, move to a cave, city, etc where there are no spell impacts present, enable the console, type in "pcb", save, and then uninstall.

Votes

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:14, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No Kelmych (talk) 20:40, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Dual Wield Blocking Animations

Votes

Template:Yes Seems like a fix, but I've never dual wielded weapons. Techangel85 (talk) 01:17, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No (since i voted "no" for dual wield blocking, i vote no for this as well) Thecompiler (talk) 16:07, June 19, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No The argument for excluding DWB precludes. ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Enchantment Effect Replacer

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly replacement Techangel85 (talk) 01:18, June 11, 2013 (MDT) Template:Yes Only if we recommend the "Letters random" Daedric symbols version. Otherwise, vanilla is better. ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Enhanced Blood

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly replacement. Adds additional effects not found in vanilla. (I feel the added effects were missing from vanilla) Techangel85 (talk) 01:21, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 13:32, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 13:51, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No Much more blood than is reasonable compared to vanilla. This mod adds a lot of changes that I think are too extensive for STEP: Core ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Enhanced Projectile Soul Trap

Votes

Template:Yes I feel this to be a fix. Techangel85 (talk) 01:22, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 13:28, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 13:52, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Especially if we retain ASG. ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes And even if we don't retain ASG, this mod can still be used. WilliamImm (talk) 21:12, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Finer Dust

Votes

Template:Yes HQ improvement of vanilla textures/effectTechangel85 (talk) 01:23, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 13:33, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 22:01, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Improved Weapon Impact Effects

Votes

Template:Yes I feel this as a fix. Techangel85 (talk) 01:25, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes (in general I feel this is an improvement, but there are certainly instances where the dust is a more appropriate effect, so I can go either way) Kryptopyr (talk) 13:54, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 15:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:41, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Lightning During Thunder Storms

Votes

Template:No Will conflict with certain lighting/weather mods without a patch so it should be in the pack. Techangel85 (talk) 21:18, June 7, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes I feel that this definitely corrects a vanilla oversight. I believe this mod uninstalls pretty cleanly, so it shouldn't be difficult for packs to instruct users to remove this mod if necessary to prevent conflicts. Kryptopyr (talk) 22:01, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
Template:No I think that downstream conflicts with Packs are a deal breaker. We need to strictly adhere to the flow chart. ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)

No Spinning Death Animation

Votes

Template:Yes Changes death animation; however, I feel this to be a fix as the spinning animation is awkward/unnatural. Techangel85 (talk) 01:31, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 13:30, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 13:55, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes No lense flare version only. ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)

Ultimate HD Fire Effects

Votes

Template:Yes HQ improvement of vanilla fireTechangel85 (talk) 01:53, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 21:53, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
Template:Yes ~z929669 Ixian Insignia.png Talk 10:55, June 23, 2013 (MDT)
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