Random CTD, how to figure out what is wrong

[minos55]

Hy I just installed step and step extanded, and I removed the records of the choise is yours from the step extanded patch. I also added the climates of tamriel, monster mod, Imersive creatures, dungeon quest awarness and apachi hair to my load order and am geting some random ctd. Anyway I could triangulate this? I am testing this with god mode on and runing around in speedmult 400 or 1000. I have installed the patch for blood textures for monster mod and imersive creatures and the patches from AOS for climates and the patch for mintys lighning for climates. Do I also need to remove the blood texture records from the extanded patch if that could be the problem or what.

 

And what i meant with completly random. I got A ctd in the following situations: Opening the map, talking to someone like the guy that is offering a cow to the giant, or just walking around. Here is my load order I set it up like the patches said for climates and AOS first climates then AOS and then all other climates plugins before the patch for it. Any help of finding what the problem could be would be awsome.

 

Load Order

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
ApachiiHair.esm
ApachiiHairMales.esm
ClimatesOfTamriel.esm
SkyMoMod.esm
ApachiiHairFemales.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
Rainbows.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
Dead Body Collision.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
Traps Make Noise.esp
Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
BWS.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
Footprints.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
Beards.esp
Soul Gems Differ - NW.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
Brows.esp
MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp
BFSEffects.esp
Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp
SMDropLitTorch.esp
NoxUE2.00.esp
Paralyze.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp
ADS.esp
Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Distant DetailHF.esp
RaceMenu.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
ShootingStars.esp
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
NonEssentialChildren.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp
Point The Way.esp
HearthfireChimneys.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
SkyUI.esp
TradeBarter.esp
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
WetandCold.esp
AOS.esp
IHSS.esp
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
dD-DG-DB-MM-SiC EBT Patch.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp
ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp
AOS2_CoT3_1_patch.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp
Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp
Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
BlockSparkles.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
STEP Extended Patch.esp
iHUD.esp
mintylightningmod.esp
randomthunder.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

My pc specs are here:

https://wiki.step-project.com/User:Minos55/SystemSpecs

and the GPU is a amd 290 tri-x OC From saphire

 

Skyrim.ini

 

 

 

[General]

sLanguage = ENGLISH

uExterior Cell Buffer = 36

sIntroSequence =

fFlickeringLightDistance = 8192.0

uGridsToLoad = 7

 

[Display]

fShadowLODMaxStartFade = 1000.0

fSpecularLODMaxStartFade = 2000.0

fLightLODMaxStartFade = 3500.0

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 2048

bAllowScreenshot = 1

fSunUpdateThreshold = 1.5

fSunShadowUpdateTime = 0.25

 

[Audio]

fMusicDuckingSeconds = 6.0

fMusicUnDuckingSeconds = 8.0

fMenuModeFadeOutTime = 3.0

fMenuModeFadeInTime = 1.0

 

[Grass]

bAllowCreateGrass = 1

bAllowLoadGrass = 0

iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure = 7

iMinGrassSize = 40

 

[GeneralWarnings]

SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning = One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.

 

[Archive]

sResourceArchiveList = Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa

sResourceArchiveList2 = Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa

 

[Combat]

fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult = 0.0

fMagnetismLookingMult = 0.0

fAimChaseLookingMult = 3.0

f1PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7

f3PArrowTiltUpAngle = 0.7

f1PBoltTiltUpAngle = 0.7

f3PBoltTiltUpAngle = 0.7

 

[Papyrus]

fUpdateBudgetMS=1.6

fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=1.6

fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=1000.0

bEnableLogging=0

bEnableTrace=0

bLoadDebugInformation=0

iMaxMemoryPageSize=8192

iMinMemoryPageSize=256

iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=8388608

 

[Water]

bReflectLODObjects = 1

bReflectLODLand = 1

bReflectSky = 1

bReflectLODTrees = 1

 

[Actor]

fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist = 12288.0

 

[interface]

fSafeZoneY = 10.0

fSafeZoneX = 10.0

fSafeZoneYWide = 10.0

fSafeZoneXWide = 10.0

 

 

Skyrimpref.ini

 

[General]

fBrightLightColorB = 1.0000

fBrightLightColorG = 1.0000

fBrightLightColorR = 1.0000

iStoryManagerLoggingEvent = -1

bEnableStoryManagerLogging = 0

 

[imagespace]

bDoDepthOfField = 1

iRadialBlurLevel = 2

 

[Display]

iBlurDeferredShadowMask = 32

fInteriorShadowDistance = 3000.0000

fShadowDistance = 5800.0000

iShadowMapResolutionSecondary = 4096

iShadowMapResolutionPrimary = 4096

iShadowSplitCount = 2

iMaxAnisotropy = 0

fLeafAnimDampenDistEnd = 4600.0000

fLeafAnimDampenDistStart = 3600.0000

fTreesMidLODSwitchDist = 10000000.0000

fGamma = 1.0000

fDecalLOD2 = 1500.0000

fDecalLOD1 = 1000.0000

fSpecularLODStartFade = 2000.0000

fShadowLODStartFade = 200.0000

fLightLODStartFade = 3500.0000

iTexMipMapMinimum = 0

iTexMipMapSkip = 0

iWaterMultiSamples = 0

iMultiSample = 4

iShadowMode = 3

bTreesReceiveShadows = 1

bDrawLandShadows = 1

bFull Screen = 1

iSize H = 1080

iSize W = 1920

fMeshLODFadePercentDefault = 1.2000

fMeshLODFadeBoundDefault = 256.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeTreeDistance = 2048.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeTreeDistance = 2844.0000

fMeshLODLevel2FadeDist = 10000000.0000

fMeshLODLevel1FadeDist = 10000000.0000

iScreenShotIndex = 2

bShadowMaskZPrepass = 0

bMainZPrepass = 0

iMaxSkinDecalsPerFrame = 25

iMaxDecalsPerFrame = 256

bFloatPointRenderTarget = 0

sD3DDevice = "AMD Radeon R9 200 Series"

bFXAAEnabled = 0

iShadowMapResolution = 4096

fShadowBiasScale = 0.1500

iShadowMaskQuarter = 4

iAdapter = 0

iPresentInterval = 0

iShadowFilter = 3

bShadowsOnGrass = 1

bTransparencyMultisampling = 0

bDeferredShadows = 1

bDrawShadows = 1

 

[Grass]

b30GrassVS = 0

fGrassStartFadeDistance = 14000.0000

fGrassMaxStartFadeDistance = 7000.0000

fGrassMinStartFadeDistance = 0.0000

 

[MAIN]

bGamepadEnable = 0

bCrosshairEnabled = 1

fHUDOpacity = 1.0000

bSaveOnPause = 0

bSaveOnTravel = 0

bSaveOnWait = 0

bSaveOnRest = 0

fSkyCellRefFadeDistance = 150000.0000

 

[GamePlay]

bShowFloatingQuestMarkers = 1

bShowQuestMarkers = 1

iDifficulty = 2

 

[interface]

bDialogueSubtitles = 1

bGeneralSubtitles = 1

fMouseCursorSpeed = 1.0000

bShowCompass = 1

 

[Controls]

fGamepadHeadingSensitivity = 1.0000

fMouseHeadingSensitivity = 0.0320

bAlwaysRunByDefault = 1

bInvertYValues = 0

bGamePadRumble = 0

bMouseAcceleration = 0

bUseKinect = 0

 

[Particles]

iMaxDesired = 750

 

[saveGame]

fAutosaveEveryXMins = 60.0000

 

[AudioMenu]

fAudioMasterVolume = 1.0000

fVal7 = 1.0000

uID7 = 0

fVal6 = 1.0000

uID6 = 0

fVal5 = 1.0000

uID5 = 0

fVal4 = 1.0000

uID4 = 0

fVal3 = 1.0000

uID3 = 94881

fVal2 = 0.4000

uID2 = 466532

fVal1 = 1.0000

uID1 = 554685

fVal0 = 0.8000

uID0 = 1007612

 

[Clouds]

fCloudLevel2Distance = 262144.0000

fCloudLevel1Distance = 32768.0000

fCloudLevel0Distance = 16384.0000

fCloudNearFadeDistance = 9000.0000

 

[TerrainManager]

fTreeLoadDistance = 75000.0000

fBlockMaximumDistance = 250000.0000

fBlockLevel1Distance = 70000.0000

fBlockLevel0Distance = 35000.0000

fSplitDistanceMult = 1.5000

bShowLODInEditor = 0

 

[NavMesh]

fObstacleAlpha = 0.5000

fCoverSideHighAlpha = 0.8000

fCoverSideLowAlpha = 0.6500

fEdgeFullAlpha = 1.0000

fEdgeHighAlpha = 0.7500

fEdgeLowAlpha = 0.5000

fTriangleFullAlpha = 0.7000

fTriangleHighAlpha = 0.3500

fTriangleLowAlpha = 0.2000

fLedgeBoxHalfHeight = 25.0000

fEdgeDistFromVert = 10.0000

fEdgeThickness = 10.0000

fPointSize = 2.5000

 

[Trees]

bRenderSkinnedTrees = 1

uiMaxSkinnedTreesToRender = 20

 

[Decals]

uMaxDecals = 1000

bDecals = 1

bSkinnedDecals = 1

uMaxSkinDecals = 100

uMaxSkinDecalsPerActor = 60

 

[LOD]

fLODFadeOutMultObjects = 15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultItems = 15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultActors = 15.0000

fLODFadeOutMultSkyCell = 1.0000

 

[Launcher]

bEnableFileSelection = 1

bShowAllResolutions = 1

uLastAspectRatio = 3

 

[blurShaderHDR]

bDoHighDynamicRange = 1

 

[blurShader]

bUseBlurShader = 0

 

[Water]

iWaterReflectHeight = 512

iWaterReflectWidth = 512

bUseWaterDisplacements = 1

bUseWaterRefractions = 1

bUseWaterReflections = 1

bUseWaterDepth = 1

 

 

enblocal.ini

 

[PROXY]
EnableProxyLibrary=false
InitProxyFunctions=true
ProxyLibrary=other_d3d9.dll

[GLOBAL]
UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=true
UseDefferedRendering=false
IgnoreCreationKit=true
ForceFakeVideocard=false

[PERFORMANCE]
SpeedHack=true
EnableOcclusionCulling=true

[MULTIHEAD]
ForceVideoAdapterIndex=false
VideoAdapterIndex=0

[MEMORY]
ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=false
DisablePreloadToVRAM=false
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=false
ReservedMemorySizeMb=64
VideoMemorySizeMb=
EnableCompression=true
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=true

[WINDOW]
ForceBorderless=false
ForceBorderlessFullscreen=false

[ENGINE]
ForceAnisotropicFiltering=false
MaxAnisotropy=16
ForceLodBias=false
LodBias=0.0
AddDisplaySuperSamplingResolutions=false
EnableVSync=true
VSyncSkipNumFrames=0

[LIMITER]
WaitBusyRenderer=false
EnableFPSLimit=false
FPSLimit=10.0

[iNPUT]
//shift
KeyCombination=16
//f12
KeyUseEffect=123
//home
KeyFPSLimit=36
//num / 106
KeyShowFPS=106
//print screen
KeyScreenshot=44
//enter
KeyEditor=13
//f4
KeyFreeVRAM=115

[ADAPTIVEQUALITY]
Enable=false
Quality=1
DesiredFPS=20.0

[ANTIALIASING]
EnableEdgeAA=false
EnableTemporalAA=false
EnableSubPixelAA=false
EnableTransparencyAA=false

[FIX]
FixGameBugs=true
FixParallaxBugs=true
FixAliasedTextures=true
IgnoreInventory=true
FixSsaoHairTransparency=true
FixTintGamma=true
RemoveBlur=false
FixSubSurfaceScattering=true
FixSkyReflection=true
FixCursorVisibility=true

 

Edited August 12, 2014 by minos55

[minos55]

Well the slowdowns were fixed, it was the enblocal.ini did some research and for my pc memory compresion had to be false and disabling driver memory managment to true, now i can run without stutterering, will go about your way of fixing, Just need abit more info when you sugested the following route Riverwood -> falkreath -> markarth -> solitude -> morthal -> winterhold -> windhelm -> riften -> riverwood. did you mean in a straight line or on the roads?

[Aiyen]

I normally just follow the roads.. since that way you can easily stay on almost the same track every run. Also there are many many intense and CTD prone spots along the roads. 

[CovertSlinky]

Hm ok went back to extanded and ugrids 7 and no ctd, so i gues one of the other mods has to be the problem, will go slowly through and report back, does anybody else have any other ideas how to trigger a ctd i only know of the one that you run around like a maniac with god mode and speed 1000 

Edit:Also @CovertSlinky how come that your load order has animated weapons and then rainbos right after in load order and mine is rainbows and about 5-6 mods later animated weapon don't You use the newest LOOT? 

I do use the newest LOOT, but all I can say is LOOT sorting is dynamic, I have mods that you don't, and LOOT does sorting based on conflicts (and other things I'm sure). Don't have a reason to believe it's wrong, so I go with what LOOT is giving me.

[minos55]

Ok after 3 runs of the route sugested to me, I had no CTD probably don't need to run 2 more times, looks like it was the enblocal.ini setting of compresion memory set to true so setting that to false fixed it I hope :D

 

So if it's fixed. Thank you to evrybody for sugestions.

Edited August 16, 2014 by minos55

[CovertSlinky]

Glad to hear you may of fixed it. Just be sure to watch your vram consumption when compression is set to false, you will get ctd's if it reaches your vram limit (sometimes even just approaching the limit will cause one). Just something to consider and happy modding.

[minos55]

how can i keep a watch at it? I am using enblocal for fps

[CovertSlinky]

Best way is to use Skyrim Performance Monitor, which is listed in the STEP guide.