Broken rain

[thisisbleep]

After completing Unbound at the beginning of the game and starting to head to Riverwood with Hadvar, it started to rain and this is what happened.

 

Looking up at the sky.

 

Looking forwards, down to the ground.

 

minty's lightning mod MCM menu, with a strange weather ID.

 

 

I have tried to search for that code and no results come up, so I presume that it was a glitch. Do you think that it is a mod conflict or I was just unlucky? I have a save which was taken during the rain and I have tried to remove the three rain textures in the textures>effects folder, but that made no difference. I can force the weather to change in the console or through the lightning mod MCM menu and it changes correctly.

 

Is there a console command or easy way to check the weather ID?

 

Load order of mods:

 

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

Falskaar.esm

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

SPIKE.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Brawl Bugs CE.esp

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

MoreSnow.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

Rainbows.esp

BWS.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

IHSS.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

randomthunder.esp

Thundering Shouts.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

FixCombatMusic.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

TradeBarter.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

Prometheus_BeastSkeletons.esp

Better Skill and Quest Books Names.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

Birdsofskyrim.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

Disease Descriptions.esp

DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp

DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

DungeonQuestAwareness.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

High Level Enemies.esp

High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp

High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp

High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp

High Level Enemies - Increased Max Resists.esp

High Level Enemies - Raised Ability Caps.esp

ItemRewardsForBounties.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - default.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RLO.esp

Long lost smelters by Hyralux.esp

UnlimitedBookshelves.esp

LydiaLoopFix.esp

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp

MVABasic.esp

MVAIvarstead.esp

MVARorikstead.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

Point The Way.esp

RabbitsPlus.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

ShootingStars.esp

skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

Traps Make Noise.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

Footprints.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

RaceMenu.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

WetandCold.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

imp_helm.esp

imp_helm_imp.esp

imp_helm_dawn.esp

PIVariety.esp

Unique Dragon Priest Masks.esp

Expanded Apothecary Inventory.esp

HarvestOverhaulDawnguardDragonborn.esp

HarvestOverhaulSalmonRoe.esp

HarvestOverhaulCreaturesDawnguardHearthfireDragonborn.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

towBlockSteal.esp

Wyrmstooth.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

AchieveThat.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

DiversePriests.esp

DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp

dynamic fires.esp

FalskaarDawnguard.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

longercandlelight5min.esp

masser Size x0.5.esp

More Salt Please.esp

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp

dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp

secunda Size x0.5.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

WeaponsArmorFixes_MultiMod_DLCPatch.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcishWeapons.esp

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

SoS - The Dungeons.esp

SoS - The Wilds.esp

SoS - Civilization.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dungeons.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Dawnguard Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Exteriors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Major City Interiors.esp

Realistic Lighting Overhaul - Weathers.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Nights-Level-1.esp

SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLODungeons.esp

SoS - The Dungeons-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

SoS - The Wilds-PatchCoT.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchRLOMajorCityInteriors.esp

SoS - Civilization-PatchCoT.esp

abotFiresHurt.esp

BFSEffects.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

Better Stealth AI for Followers.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-BetterStealthAIPatch.esp

Realistic crime report radius.esp

ACE Realistic Fighting.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

ACE Speech.esp

ACE Archery.esp

ACE Armor.esp

ACE Enchanting.esp

ACE Magic.esp

ACE Melee.esp

ACE Smithing.esp

ACE Synergy.esp

Enhanced Soul Trap.esp

Soul Gems Differ - E.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Onehanded.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

UNFU.esp

Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

Respectful_Lydia-Whatdoyouwantmetocarry_subtitle.esp

Follower Trap Safety.esp

moveitLWT.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

Dynamic TimeScale.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DB.esp

WATER Falskaar.esp

Waves.esp

Atlas Map Markers.esp

BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

DragonPriestMaskQuestMarkers.esp

EnableSovngardeMap.esp

Follower Map Markers.esp

minemapmarkers.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeopleCompatability.esp

DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp

The Choice is Yours and Bring Out Your Dead patch.esp

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions and The Choice Is Yours patch.esp

Static Mesh Improvement Mod (Dragonborn) and Ars Mettallica (Dragonborn) patch.esp

Acquisitive Soul Gems and Animated Weapon Enchants patch.esp

Improved Combat Sounds and Enhanced Blood patch.esp

GrassOnSteroids_NaturalEdition_SFO.esp

IslandFastTravel.esp

followerdeathnotice.esp

NoRoadPredators.esp

EnhancedCrafting.esp

filled_pots.esp

LearnAlchemyFromRecipes.esp

DLC Shrines for Hearthfire Homes.esp

World_Map_Height_Pitch_Tweak_130.esp

ASIS-Dependency.esp

ASIS.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

 

I use BOSS to sort the load order. There are a few unrecognised ESPs at the end, which I have bolded.

[rootsrat]

I've never seen anything like that before. To my (limited) knowledge it looks like a texture problem - but I may be wrong.

[7hr08ik]

Are you using enb? Coz the newer ones handle rain as well, turn it off in the shift+enter menu. All the way at the bottom if you are.

 

Gotta admit, looks awesome. But agree with rootsrat, purple usually means texture Issue

 

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[Aiyen]

My first guess would be a bad raindrop.tga file for ENB.... mainly because rain without ENB´s rain is just a 2d texture put over the screen.

 

As for getting weatherID´s ingame. Get STATUS from mannyGT and place its .esp just before a bashed patch on your load order. Then you can get current weatherID´s via its MCM menu.

[thisisbleep]

Are you using enb? Coz the newer ones handle rain as well, turn it off in the shift+enter menu. All the way at the bottom if you are.

 

Gotta admit, looks awesome. But agree with rootsrat, purple usually means texture Issue

 

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I am using ENBoost, so there is ENB but the visual part is disabled.

 

 

EDIT: I disabled it in the enbseries.ini but that made no difference.

 

 

The only thing that I can think of is that a mod has added new weather IDs and this particular one loaded but is missing the textures.

 

These are the ones which come to mind, I don't have any other weather mods installed:

- Climates of Tamriel

- Realistic Light Overhaul (weather)

- Wet and cold

- Minty's lightning mod

 

EDIT 2: Found it, it was "Supreme Storms" (https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/27022//?). I managed to forget to install the two texture files included.

[Aiyen]

Well looking over your BOSS list then there are a few issues.

1. you should only have one Lanterns .esp... not two. Only the last one will be in effect.

2. Supreme storms CoT version should be loaded after CoT nights.

 

also with ENB then it can create an enbseries.ini file in which the rain will be enabled by default... which would create that effect if you do not have any .tga file for it. Try to open it and manually disable it to make sure.

 

If that is not the cause, then try to test other stormy weathers and see if the problem is generic for them all. In which case try to reinstall the mod that provides the rain texture. In your case that would be supreme storms I think.

 

edit: In general your selection of mods is not really optimal... and you are using stuff that have been proven to provide major stability issues. Like More village animals, and ASIS. Also you have the oblivion gate mod which adds new spawns.. which in combination with alot of other stuff is just going to be a stability nightmare! :) But ofc. that is up to you. Just saying that your list is a bit cluttered and not really optimal and you are most likely going to run into issues down the road.

[thisisbleep]

I was not aware that Lanterns were both full ESPs, I expected that they were compatibility patches. I have checked the downloads section and there is no ESP for compatibility with RLO and CoT, should I use the RLO because that is loaded after CoT and will that cause problems with CoT?

 

I have trusted BOSS for the ordering of the ESPs, I can manually move it to below the CoT nights ESP but it will move back every time afterwards. Should I use the BOSS userlist manager to add a rule that it is loaded after CoT nights?

 

Adding the supreme storms textures fixed it, I somehow managed to forget or later delete the textures from the effects folder for it. Once I had added them it fixed the problem on that same save.

 

 

I have to admit, I have probably gone over the top with the mods, there are so many that add features which I would like in the game. Could I list out the non-STEP mods for comments on compatibility? I am definitely open to reducing it for better stability. The game seems stable now, the only issues that I have had is during autosaves it crashes easily, but it happens after the save is made so I do not lose any progress. I have tried the autosave function in "Dynamic TimeScale now with AutoSave", but that has the same issues, at least that gives a 10 second warning though so I know to stop and wait for the save. I completely understand if you don't have the time or want to help with non-STEP mods, I will link what I have below.

 

I did follow the STEP guide regarding installing MVA and the Oblivion gates, so are there STEP mods such as these which I should not install, to maximise stability? Do you know when the STEP guide will be updated?

 

 

Non-STEP mods:

 

 

Fixes:

• Weapons and Armor Fixes - Remade with Dawnguard and Dragonborn support
• Fix for combat music
• Underwater Swimming SFX Fix
• ENB Series (for ENBoost)
• CTD and Performance patch ENBoost
• fxDustDropRandomSCRIPT errors *FIXED*

Interface:

• Island Fast Travel
• Detailed Mine Map Markers
• Follower Death Messages

Graphics:

• Glowing Ore Veins 300 (I always struggle to see them in the mines/dungeons because of low brightness)

Environmental:

• Climates Of Tamriel - Weather - Lighting - Audio
• Realistic Lighting Overhaul
• Grass on Steroids - a grass mod that gives FPS BOOST and Dense Grass
• Waves
• Supreme Storms
• More Snow

Characters & Creatures:

• Better Stealth AI for Followers - No Torch while Sneaking
• No More Blocky Faces
• Better Females by Bella
• ASIS (Automatic Spells, Increased Spawns) (Using for AI, automatic perks and automatic skills)
• Ultimate NPC Face Unlocker
• Respectful Lydia - Willing Burden Carrier
• Lydia Loop Fix 1_1
• Skyrim Peasant Fashion
• No More Redshirts - Make NPCs Essential (I have not enabled this, I do think it is cheating a bit but I also don't want NPCs to all die when I am not there, like they did in my Xbox play through)
• No Predators on roads
• skyBirds - Airborne Perching Birds (Fixes the scripts in "Birds and Flocks Hearthfire edition")

Clothing & Equipment:

• Unique Dragon Priest Masks - HD textures
• Improved Vanilla Underwear

Animations & Effects:

• Lowered Hands

Clutter & Miscellaneous:

• Unlimited Bookshelves
• Better Skill and Quest Books Names
• Stones of Barenziah Quest Markers
• Dragon Priest Mask Quest Markers
• Dynamic TimeScale now with AutoSave
• Realistic Crime Radius (I don't have the bashed patch)
• Enhanced Crafting
• Long Lost Smelters of Skyrim - Skyforge
• Filled Pots
• Expanded Apothecary Inventory - More Potions and Ingredients
• Hearthfire Dolls Are Ugly
• DLC Shrines for Hearthfire Homes

Sound:

• None

Gameplay:

• Achieve That
• Harvest Overhaul
• Falskaar
• Wyrmstooth
• Blocksteal - prevents accidentally stealing items
• High Level Enemies
• Item Rewards For Bounties - WG
• ACE - Combat Skills
• Longer Candlelight Spell
• Fires Hurt
• Beast Skeletons
• Learn Alchemy From Recipes

Some other mods which I have considered, but are not installed (some are already covered by STEP or the mods above):

• HBE - Hardcore and Balanced Experience (I would really like this, instead of ASIS, but the owner has not updated it and people have reported that it is broken.)
• Immersive Patrols
• Dragon Soul Relinquishment (or something similar)
• Amazing Follower Tweaks (I did try this, but it was causing problems. UFO might be better but I don't need as many functions)
• No Guard Helmets
• More Dragon Loot (Broken and needs updating from the recent comments)
• Enhanced Enemy AI (I could use this instead of ASIS, but I would not have the other benefits)
• Shortcuts - Secret Entrances For All Cities Plus Thieves Guild
• Immersive Potions (I would like something which makes potions heal over time, I have a mod which I noticed already did this (ACE?) but it does not stop spamming and does not change the tooltips)
• Relationship Fixes -Requires Hearthfire- (This has a papyrus error, so I cannot tell if it works or not, but I would like a mod which has a similar effect)
• Lakeview Extended, Hearthfire Fortified Lakeview Manor or something similar for after I have built a Hearthfire house.

 

[Aiyen]

You can trust BOSS most of the time! However if a mod author of a mod says that a mod has to be in a certain spot then it might take some time before the BOSS team gets it sorted. I just recently installed Supreme storms for CoT and I recall it saying it should be placed after.

 

As for all other mods. I am sure many people are happy to help out. If you want a guide or inspiration then vist the Skyrim revisited guide.

 

In general any mod that adds spawnpoints, or adds more actors to the game is gonna make the game noticeable more unstable. This mainly because the game engine is very touchy about spawning new actors, and when there are many then the AI engine kinda stops working which does not help.

This might not be an issue if you are using few mods.. but with your list then it most likely is gonna be.

 

Also good to know that you got the issue at hand fixed!

[thisisbleep]

Thanks for the help. :)

[Aiyen]

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