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Mods VIA MO creating duplicate effects. Character models doing sideways shuffles. CTD etc

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Certain in-game effects not working properly, then suddenly begin working.  Female character models are all doing sideways stuttering shuffles when walking while not in combat.  Quests NPC script at times not running initially, then working normally after loading a save.  Frequent CTD when entering certain areas, (using doors, or simply walking around)  NPC characters randomly entering swimming animations, when on land. Lighting effects will change randomly after loading a save (Same or otherwise, it doesn't matter) for example, the lighting for everything in game appearing very bright, and clear, while also loading very dark and shaded lighting at the same time (The one that prevails and remains in-game until the next load seems random).  Creatures from mods such as Monster Mod, and Immersive creatures were working properly initially, but no longer show in game. Bows in first person are held off to the left side of the screen, pointed towards the sky and actually affect arrow trajectory. At times while in first person, any weapons on hips will be thrust through the characters chest and take up the entire middle portion of the screen.

 

Have been having issues for a while now, and these new issues are after yet another fresh install of skyrim, and mod organizer. Following Gamerpoets tutorials, I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong at this point. 

 

Other aspects of mods are not working properly as well, such as the skyUI function with Frostfall which allows you to see warmth and coverages ratings for items.  Mod for showing favorited items on your character (Dual sheath) and or equip weapons on both hips, back, etc, will initially not work at all but will begin working properly after entering and leaving a few in-game buildings.

 

Before posting I have combed through forums, videos, re-installed and re-done everything following guides. Multiple times. :wallbash:

 

Install list. 

 

mod_id,mod_installed_name,mod_version,file_installed_name
4929,"A Quality World Map and Solstheim Map - With Roads FULL","9.0.1.0VF","A Quality World Map 9.0.1 - Vivid with Flat Roads-4929-9-0-1VF.zip"
30212,"Achieve That FULL","2.3.1.0","Achieve That-30212-2-3-1.rar"
9557,"Alternate Start - Live Another Life FULL","3.1.7.0","Alternate Start - Live Another Life-9557-3-1-7.7z"
53271,"Animated Dragon Wings","1.30.0.0","Animated Dragon Wings (all-in-one) new2-53271-1-30.7z"
10168,"ApachiiSkyHair","1.6.0.0.Full","ApachiiSkyHair_v_1_6_Full-10168-1-6-Full.7z"
10168,"ApachiiSkyHairFEMALE","1.5.0.0","ApachiiSkyHairFemale_v_1_5-10168-1-5.7z"
10168,"ApachiiSkyHairMALE","1.2.0.0","ApachiiSkyHairMale_v_1_2-10168-1-2.7z"
16225,"Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim FULL","9.40.0.0","Apocalypse v940-16225-9-40.zip"
16225,"Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim PERMA PATCH","d2017.11.6","Apocalypse - PerMa Compatibility Patch-16225-.zip"
16225,"Apocalypse - Magic of Skyrim WATERWALKING","d2017.11.6","Apocalypse - Waterstride Spell Addon-16225-.zip"
9717,"Better Vampires 8.1","8.1.0.0","Better Vampires 8.1-9717-8-1.zip"
2666,"Calientes Beautiful Bodies Edition -CBBE-","3.4.0.0f","Caliente's Beautiful Bodies Edition v3.4f-2666-3-4f.7z"
64798,"Campfire - Complete Camping System FULL","1.11.0.0","Campfire 1.11-64798-1-11.zip"
17802,"Climates Of Tamriel-V","5.0.0.0","Climates Of Tamriel-17802-v5-0.zip"
12092,"Cloaks of Skyrim DAWNGAURD PATCH","1.2.0.0","Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2 Dawnguard-12092-1-2.rar"
12092,"Cloaks of Skyrim FULL","1.2.0.0","Cloaks of Skyrim 1-2 -12092-1-2.rar"
14950,"Convenient Horses FULL","5.0.0.0","Convenient Horses v5_0-14950-5-0.zip"
0,"dawngaurd.esm - clean","",""
3829,"Deadly_Dragons","6.4.1.0","Deadly Dragons v 6.4.1-3829-6-4-1b.rar"
0,"dragonborn.esm - cleaned","",""
24282,"Drinking Fountains of Skyrim FULL","1.2.0.0","Drinking Fountains of Skyrim-24282-1-2.rar"
34155,"Dual Sheath Redux DSR FULL","1.7.3.0","Dual Sheath Redux-34155-1-7-3.7z"
60,"Enhanced Blood Textures","3.6.0.0c","Enhanced Blood Textures 3_6c NMM -60-3-6c.7z"
85,"Enhanced Night Skyrim FULL","0.4.0.0","Enhanced Night Skyrim v04 Color Galaxy-85-0-4.zip"
49784,"Equipping Overhaul FULL","3.13.0.0","Equipping Overhaul-49784-3-13.rar"
32695,"Even Better Quest Objectives FULL","1.5.8.0a","Even Better Quest Objectives - 1.5.8a-32695-1-5-8a.7z"
13608,"Expanded Towns and Cities Im. Set. Merged File FULL","14.0.0.0","ETaC - Modular-13608-14-0.7z"
13608,"Expanded Towns and Cities Im. Set. Merged File patch","14.2.8.0","ETaC - Modular - Patches-13608-14-2-8.7z"
13608,"Expanded Towns and Cities Im. Set. Merged File patch UPDATE","14.2.10.0","ETaC v14.2.10 Update-13608-14-2-10.7z"
13608,"Expanded Towns and Cities MODULAR FULL","14.0.0.0","ETaC - Modular-13608-14-0.7z"
13608,"Expanded Towns and Cities MODULAR PATCHES","14.2.8.0","ETaC - Modular - Patches-13608-14-2-8.7z"
13608,"Expanded Towns and Cities UPDATE","14.2.10.0","ETaC v14.2.10 Update-13608-14-2-10.7z"
15775,"Flying Mod Beta FULL","0.9.0.0","Flying Mod v09-15775-0-9.rar"
0,"Flying mod GENERATED TEST","",""
0,"FNIS OUTPUT PATCH NEW","",""
54521,"FNIS Sexy Move","6.1.0.0","FNIS Sexy Move 6.1-54521-6-1.7z"
22745,"Footprints FULL","f1.00","Footprints v1_00 - Legendary-22745-1-00.7z"
11811,"Fores New Idles in Skyrim - CREATURE PACK","6.1.0.0","FNIS Creature Pack 6_1-11811-6-1.7z"
11811,"Fores New Idles in Skyrim - FNIS","7.0.0.0","FNIS Behavior V7_0-11811-7-0.7z"
11163,"Frostfall 3.4 Release","3.4.0.0","Frostfall 3.4.1 Release-11163-3-4-1.zip"
23390,"Guard Dialogue Overhaul FUL","1.4.0.0","Guard Dialogue Overhaul-23390-1-4.7z"
0,"heartfire.esm - cleaned","",""
64820,"Holidays","2.0.0.0","Holidays v2_0-64820-2-0.7z"
64820,"Holidays ETAC PATCH","d2017.11.7","Holidays - ETaC Patches-64820-.7z"
33201,"Hunterborn FULL","1.5.0.0","Hunterborn-33201-1-5.zip"
33201,"Hunterborn PATCHES","1.5.2.0","Hunterborn Patches-33201-1-5-2.zip"
34950,"Immersive Animations","2.1.0.0","Immersive Animations NMM Installer Complete-34950-V2-1.zip"
19733,"Immersive Armors","8.0.0.0","Immersive Armors v8-19733-8.7z"
36849,"Immersive College of Winterhold","4.1.0.0","Immersive College of Winterhold-36849-4-1.7z"
55699,"Immersive Fallen Trees Mod FULL","1.6.0.0","ImmersiveFallenTreesMod-v1-6SmallFix-55699-v1-6.rar"
3222,"Immersive HUD - iHUD FULL","3.0.3.0","Immersive HUD - iHUD-3222-3-0-03.rar"
54387,"Immersive Sounds - Compendium","2.0.1.0","Immersive Sounds Compendium 2.0.2-54387-2-0-2.zip"
27644,"Immersive Weapons FULL","1.5.0.0","Immersive Weapons-27644-1-5.7z"
36334,"Inconsequential NPCs FULL","1.9.0.0e","Inconsequential NPCs 1 dot 9e-36334-1-9e.rar"
51473,"iNeed - Food, Water and Sleep","1.602.0.0","iNeed v1_602-51473-1-602.7z"
774,"Killable Children FULL","2.2.0.0","Killable Children - BOSS Compatible-774-2-2.zip"
21720,"Left Hand Rings","1.5.0.0","LeftHandRings v1_5-21720-1-5.7z"
50471,"Memory Blocks Log","1.2.0.0","MemoryBlockLog-50471-1-2.zip"
35631,"Monster Mod FULL","4.0.0.0","Monster Mod V4-35631-4.7z"
0,"NEW BASHED PATCH - TEST","",""
0,"NEW DRS PATCH","",""
59849,"Perkus Maximus - Maximum Perk Overhaul","1.7.0.0","1_Perkus Maximus 1-7-000001-59849-1-7-000001.7z"
34155,"PERMA DSR PACK","d2017.11.7","Perkus Maximus Pack-34155-.7z"
29624,"RaceMenu FULL","3.4.5.0","RaceMenu v3-4-5-29624-3-4-5.7z"
601,"Realistic Ragdolls and Force FULL","1.9.0.0","Realistic Force-601-1-9.rar"
30936,"RealVision ENB 315b","315.0.0.0b","RealVision ENB 315b-30936-315b.7z"
0,"Saftey Load OVERWRITE","",""
33526,"ShowRaceMenu Precache Killer","1.3.0.0","ShowRaceMenu PreCacheKiller 1_3-33526-1-3.7z"
0,"skse 1 07 03 SCRIPTS","d2017.11.7","F:/skse_1_07_03.7z"
24913,"Skyrim Immersive Creatures FULL","6.5.2.0b","Skyrim Immersive Creatures v6_5_2b NMM BAIN-24913-6-5-2b.7z"
3863,"SkyUI","5.1.0.0","SkyUI_5_1-3863-5-1.7z"
8655,"Static Mesh Improvement Mod","f2.07","SMIM 2-07-8655-2-07.7z"
0,"TES5Mergedpatch","",""
-1,"Unmanaged: Bashed Patch, 0","",""
71214,"Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch FULL","3.0.11.0","Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch-71214-3-0-11.7z"
0,"Update.esm - Cleaned","",""
17416,"Wearable Lanterns FUL","4.0.2.0","Wearable Lanterns 4.0.2 Release-17416-4-0-2.zip"
27563,"Wet and Cold","f2.02","Wet and Cold v2_02-27563-.7z"
13486,"Winter Is Coming - Cloaks","2.4.0.0","WIC Cloaks NMM 2_4-13486-2-4.7z"
68000,"XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended","3.94.0.0","XP32 Maximum Skeleton Extended-68000-3-94.7z"

 

 

Latest memory block log after CTD

 

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logging max values only
Timer disabled
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a previous memory backlog

 

logging of blocks enabled
logging max values only
Timer disabled
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can provide plugins list if needed.  Plugins sorted by LOOT.

 

If I need to redo everything again, I will.  Although I'm not sure what steps I'm missing and why this is going so badly for me after all these attempts and all this time.  In each attempt thus far I have noticed one consistency, and that is CTD's when entering areas near towns, such as whiterun, windhelm, solitude.  Although each new wipe and new attempt at modding has brought new problems, this one has been pretty consistent.

Somebody save me. :innocent:

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I feel your pain with the issues you are facing but none of this is due to using MO. Once the game is started MO has almost no memory footprint with just a few lines of code that are used to check the "hooking" status. Any CTDs you have are NOT due to MO interfering.

Most likely places to look for answers will be with your FNIS patch and then your bashed patch. (Also any other user-created patches you have.)

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Thank you. I will start learning how to check these patches, and weed out trouble makers. 

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