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Same problem, shame it's not fixed. For anyone else coming across this, use player.setstage da16 170 to advance the quest, and you'll have to use tcl to get out afterwards.

I didn't do anything extra, not actually looked out for the moving mills yet so I'll check later, but other than that there's been no problems :)

I can live with slightly mismatched trees, but when the lod and full models load in at the same time which makes them appear really thick, it stands out a bit too much haha

Yeah I did, also recorded the video and it definitely seems that's the case too ;p Is it totally out of your control then? I don't think the switch would be so bad if it literally was a switch, it's a bit noticeable currently though haha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ibZkIidauA

So, just gave it a shot, it doesn't seem to affect the 3d models. I can't tell easily, but it seems like it may not be getting rid of the lod fast enough, so that for a few seconds you are viewing both the lod and full quality tree. If I remember I'll record something tomorrow to show you what I mean :p Also, as to you not doing the 3d trees for any mods, I realised aside from having a few slightly mismatched models, the size problems I noticed in 3d also apply to 2d, so 3d still seems the better option :)

I'll give that a shot later today, and I thought your code generated the trees automatically aha. Are you likely to create the static trees for SFO sometime in the near future or is it a bit too much work for what it's worth? :)

Got it working and it looks really nice, noticed a few problems, I'll say what they were but I dunno if it's anything you have control over :) Loading in some trees looked a bit weird. They go from a not thick lod, to a thick model (for a second or so), to the normal model. The middle part on photos isn't so noticeable (it's more when it just pops in out of nowhere), but without the really thick model loaded in between, it'd be a bit more subtle. https://imgur.com/a/vhSn2 The other thing was a few trees were a lot thicker than the lod made out. I looked up the tree in the 3rd photo and it's edited by SFO - https://imgur.com/a/MfaJV Also, I set block 1 to 1gb and it still wasn't enough haha, it CTD'd if I didn't set block 2 as well, but block 2 still doesn't go over 200mb, and block 1 doesn't go above 600mb, so I don't really get what's going on ;p

Ok so, I tried following the instructions, but all that happened is there is now exactly 0 tree lods. The only thing that wasn't too clear was the bit where it says "Copy Options\trees.ultra\nolodtrees.lst to OUTPUT PATH\Meshes\Terrain\Tamriel\Trees\Tamriel.lst" I know someone asked about this line before, but I wasn't sure if OUTPUT PATH meant your skyrim data folder or something else. I did it to the data folder and it didn't work (for each location, I renamed location.lst to location.lst.bak then nolodtrees.lst to location.lst, but otherwise just left the .btt files as they were). The output from xEdit contained no location/trees/location.lst files. I don't mind anyway, since everything seems to work with 2D trees, though if any files would be useful to see just ask :) Edit: Just realised, by OUTPUT PATH, you meant just copy nolodtrees into the dyndolod generation. I got confused since you said do it before it generates anything, I'll set the code to run again. Takes 50 minutes to complete so I'll post again in an hour or so ;p

Ah that kinda fixed it, although I did notice with 1gb/256mb it seemed more choppy than 512mb/768mb. The FPS is similar, but it definitely seemed smoother with block 2 set higher. I tried looking this up earlier but couldn't find much information, how come setting the blocks to 1g+ 'probably crash' the game, and how come block 2 is best left at default (it only said because it's not fully tested)? And by memory requirements for 3d trees, are you meaning the vram usage, and could tweaking ssme some more potentially fix it (I have more than enough ram, just not enough vram)? I'll try it out later anyway, just takes a long time to generate. Update about detailed cities btw, just noticed most of the trees don't unload as you get far away, could possibly be the authors fix for updating the LOD and why it might not be working :) Edit: Just read the steps to generate 3d trees, and it looks like I may break something if I plan on switching back to 2d so I'll wait for your reply first aha

Well, I finally found the problem, then posted this in another thread by accident haha. I updated to SFO 2.3 and had another attempt, since I could generate dyndolod with a few mods, then run the game fine with all the mods activated. I narrowed it down to detailed cities, couldn't find the mod listed in NMM and realised I was on the slightly newer steam workshop version. If I uncheck it just for the dyndolod generation and check it again after, everything works fine. No idea if it's caused by a conflict with something else, but it feels nice to finally have skyrim working :P Also I saw someone suggest a comparison video, so I'll try film a quick one since I still have the old texture and mesh folders. Already tried running shadowplay, which caused CTD's, but they seem to have been fixed by using the ssme thing and setting block 1 to 512mb and block 2 to 768mb :) (block 1 instantly crashes at higher than 512, block 2 might CTD at lower than 768) Final question too, is the performance impact of 3D lod trees quite bad compared to 2D ones?

Edit: I meant to reply to the dyndolod thread and somehow got this one instead haha, if a mod could delete this post then that'd be good :P

So, it looks like the actual cause was another mod (despite the CTD only happening with dyndolod and SFO on my main mod list), as it worked alright when I went down to the bare essentials. Dyndolod has quite a lot of masters, so I'll try disable what I can (the list got a bit complicated with patches, so it's not as easy as just unticking whatever), and rerun the generation to see if it's one of those mods :) There won't be any other mods it uses other than what's in the masters list right? For the record btw, the xx007D77 thing was a solitude lamp, then the next papyrus log from the same location was a campfire instead, so it's not really useful ;p

A bit late posting since I'm giving up hope on it with SFO 2.2 haha, I got a few papyrus logs, but unfortunately they don't seem to all stop at the same point. 3 and 4 are from the same location, but 4 was loading an autosave since on 3 I'd started inside. https://www.dropbox.com/s/dvh1knedjzkprua/Papyrus.0%20-%20Copy.zip?dl=0 It seems a bit weird to be happening everywhere, doesn't sound like a corrupted mesh or anything ;p

Thanks :) I just ran around a bit with the esp disabled and it worked fine aside from nothing fading in, did notice a type of tree which didn't seem to match up however, but obviously don't know if it's a bug or just a side effect of disabling the esp. Trees which show up as a (floating) yellow leafy riften tree in the distance then turn into twisted dead trees

Didn't realise you'd updated the billboards, but I got the updated ones now and still no luck. The time before crashing seems a bit random based on where you are, when moving from inside to outside (to give scripts a chance to start on the vanilla saves since it doesn't crash while inside), I counted 7 seconds from a save in riverwood and 3 seconds from high hrothgar. One thing that seems to happen when I load an outside save though, is it'll say 'dyndolod successfully initialized', then CTD within a second of that. A few papyrus logs are here, I don't think they'll be much help though as they all finish at different points - https://www.dropbox.com/s/z6qu3507p9gmaao/Papyrus.0.zip?dl=0

Damn, I'll try the 2.2g update later but doubt it'll do too much, unless sheson has any idea I'll have to live without the latest update ;p

Thanks (to you and the xedit guys) for the quick fix, would have posted sooner but I started having other problems with it haha (not down to the update, installed a few mods from the STEP list and updated Skyrim Flora Overhaul, and it started crashing) I've just figured it out anyway, SFO 2.2a, at least for me, causes a CTD when loaded with the dyndolod esp (on a vanilla save). It has it's own tree LOD, and I've tried allowing and not allowing it to overwrite the files with it's own, and no matter if I rerun the LOD generation, or run it without the mod and just load it after, it'll crash within a few seconds with nothing in the papyrus log :P If I uncheck one of the mods, there's no crash If I'm the only one getting this, I'll just go back to the old SFO to avoid the trouble, it just seems weird it crashes so fast with no papyrus message Also another quick question to tag onto the end of this, what does the esp actually do since you've already copied the LOD files?

I found skyrimCustom.ini (the annoying 43kb saveini version) had somehow appeared in my skyrim folder, so I deleted that, and loaded a vanilla save, and it was fine. Not sure if it's fine with my main save but I'll test it out later, gotta run in 5 mins :)

Just noticed lanterns of skyrim isn't working well with your mod, the lanterns don't unload their LOD when you get close, so they're all surrounded by a cube with a low res wood texture :P

Thanks, I'm not in a massive rush to play so I'll do your static LOD update and wait around a bit :) For the record, I also have that problem with bleak falls barrow, so it's not just random objects Edit: Now you know the cause I dunno if mentioning new objects helps, but 0001E67C (some tower near bleak falls barrow) is also missing it's LOD. Edit 2: Tried your tips to generate the static LOD (I turned off generate tree LOD and create texture atlas, not sure if I should have), but copying over the generated files didn't work However I noticed I had a couple of esps for snow under the roof, not just the main file, I'll try disabling the individual ones and rerunning the code. Prometheus_No_snow_Under_the_roof.esp Prometheus_NSUTR BDS Patch.esp (bds = better dynamic snow) Prometheus_NSUTR Falskaar Dock.esp

Thanks a lot for the help :) I'll run around a bit more and see if anything else catches my eye, I did it a bit before but didn't spot anything, so if it is affecting other stuff, it's not very common at least ;p

For the record, I reinstalled skyrim from scratch a few days ago so I could properly install mods and not have an unstable game, so while there is a lot of mods and quite a few errors in the edit log, the game is 100% stable :P Also before you replied the first time, I tried rerunning the code with most of the worlds checked, so the log is a lot longer than it was originally. Link is here - https://www.dropbox.com/s/4rl594vgweinwgx/TES5Edit_log.zip?dl=0 When you say it's only with a snow shader, this is the only mod I've got that specifically works on snow, you think it could be something from that? I possibly remember you writing that it's fully compatible, but it's the only thing I can think of that might change it :) If it happens to be useful, here are the mods I'm using in their load order (just saying again it's totally stable haha). Just a quick question, since I'm near the start of the game anyway, if I start playing and rerun your code later on, it shouldn't break anything in a save should it?

Ah yes, it's not there Here's DynDOLOD-LODGen preset default.ini I tried putting LODGen_Tamriel.txt on pastebin but crashed my browser haha, if you want to take a look here is the file - https://www.dropbox.com/s/gc7iaftkb8rbfr0/LODGen_Tamriel.zip?dl=0 I just downloaded the mod and followed the instructions, not copied over any files that weren't in your download :)

Yeah the object has the ID of 0007586A, sorry for not mentioning that I'd checked haha, I'll attach a couple of screenshots in a few mins The final screenshot showing it loaded was corrupted so I've only got the ones where it's not showing up, but it's totally fine when you get close enough :) https://imgur.com/a/tjrSe

Hmm strange, it has the same ID and doesn't appear to be changed at all by a mod. I looked in the Data folder for it and it didn't exist, so it's still the vanilla mesh too. The only thing I can think of is using the distance overhaul before this mod, but I'd uninstalled it via the NMM before using yours, so as far as I know it should have reverted all it's changes Edit: Just noticed the 'referenced by' bit, it's used by Interesting NPCs and Wyrmstooth