Ok, that helps definitely, but reproccer's esp is in skyre, I can't just turn off skyre and patch can I? Is there a way to separate reproccer's esp from the skyre mod? EDIT: I do, but the esps for the patches are not in the skyproc output mod, I cant get them in their because theyre never in the overwrite in the first place, they are in dual sheathe redux, skyre, and asis mods and theres no option to remove them from there.