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Yup that's exactly what it does. I tried the borderless window mod and it did not help in the slightest. Even when I run it now with bfullscreen=0 set it still appears to open fullscreen anyway when starting it with SBW.exe

bfullscreen=0 /thread. All stuttering completely gone.

I will try a defragment and get back to you. I have the 1GB 6850. I haven't tried DDSopt yet. How does DDSopt work? Is it run after all mods are installed and it edits them down? Edit: Defrag complete. Still stuttering same as before. Just to be clear the stutter doesn't happen when say walking or running around. It ONLY happens when panning my camera (most noticable when panning diagonally)

Assuming you have multicore CPU. Try and give your feedback. Tried it with no distinguishable difference. Thanks for the suggestion.

Why would it be swapping texture data to and from system ram if it isn't yet fully utilizing the 1GB vram I have?My card runs at good temps (about 55C). My entire PC is very well ventilated. I also have a power supply far greater than what my PC requires (not sure if you meant lacking in power supply or actually voltage tweaking my gpu when you said insufficient power. I was just making note of the primary cause, but that also assumes everything else is stable. Beyond that you have to start looking at other issues, and they tend to be hardware related. I'm not sure how far you've pushed the overclock on your GPU, but this is directly related to it possibly not getting enough power for the overclock (seeing as you didn't adjust the voltage). The first step I would take would be to record your current GPU overclock settings, revert them back to factory settings, and see if you still get the stuttering. If you don't, then it's most likely you need to adjust the voltage draw on the card (or reduce the amount of OC).Pushed back down to stock clock speeds and still the same issue.You've got a great system, so I don't see it as anything being slow, but I also don't have any experience with higher end Radeon cards. Have you opened up the case and double checked to make sure all connections are solid? Also, are you using anything for AA (such as supersampling)? Seeing as you only experienced the issue at a certain point during the install, all indications (for me) point to something being over-taxed, namely the GPU. When all other factors don't point to any of the more common factors, finding the cause can be harder. The best advice I can give at this point is to shut-down the machine and double check all connections, make sure all cards are seated properly, etc. Beyond that, you will likely have to start uninstalling a mod at a time to try and find the culprit (if it is mod related). Last night I was trying different things to troubleshoot and I realized that it happens even with basic vanilla skyrim I was seeing stutter.  I remember when I played skyrim before that it had a similar issue that I solved by changing the "Pixel Format" in my AMD control panel.  I tried that and had no luck there either. I also thought it might be because I'm playing on a 50" plasma HDTV as well so I switched over to my 21" monitor and still having the same issue. So even basic vanilla skyrim that runs at 60+ fps and not coming nearly close to taxing any components in my PC is stuttering.. I'm not sure where to go from here Edit: Forgot to answer about AA. Not using supersampling, just regular old MultiSampling

Why would it be swapping texture data to and from system ram if it isn't yet fully utilizing the 1GB vram I have?My card runs at good temps (about 55C). My entire PC is very well ventilated. I also have a power supply far greater than what my PC requires (not sure if you meant lacking in power supply or actually voltage tweaking my gpu when you said insufficient power. I was just making note of the primary cause, but that also assumes everything else is stable. Beyond that you have to start looking at other issues, and they tend to be hardware related. I'm not sure how far you've pushed the overclock on your GPU, but this is directly related to it possibly not getting enough power for the overclock (seeing as you didn't adjust the voltage). The first step I would take would be to record your current GPU overclock settings, revert them back to factory settings, and see if you still get the stuttering. If you don't, then it's most likely you need to adjust the voltage draw on the card (or reduce the amount of OC).Pushed back down to stock clock speeds and still the same issue.

Why would it be swapping texture data to and from system ram if it isn't yet fully utilizing the 1GB vram I have?My card runs at good temps (about 55C). My entire PC is very well ventilated. I also have a power supply far greater than what my PC requires (not sure if you meant lacking in power supply or actually voltage tweaking my gpu when you said insufficient power. My build: i5 2500k @ 4.5Ghz Asus p8p67 8GB 1600mhz cl9 radeon HD 6850 @ 870mhz core, 1150mhz mem corsair hx750 power supply That just about covers it. My cpu overclock was done at the time of build, the gpu overclock was about a month ago and has been stable, but is there a chance the gpu overclock could be causing the issue? I left it on stock voltages when I overclocked it. To answer your question in short I am using the HDDLC Optimized rather than the full HD texture pack. I am trying to run baseline step 2.2.1 (I know it's still a work in progress but it was decided in another thread that I was better off trying to run that than the outdated 2.2.0a) https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.1 I am running all baseline options up till the end of Clothing & Equipment. Animations & Effects section and on I haven't downloaded yet I just don't understand why it is stuttering if everything is seemingly not hitting it's limits yet. I wanted to find out if there were a better explanation before I started disabling mods. You shouldn't be having swapping out until your VRAM is full. The overclock could be causing the issue, but I couldn't be sure. It could also be caused by your GPU being pushed too far (running to high resolution, too high of settings, etc) and your card is struggling to keep up. Basically at this point in the game it's going to be trial and error and troubleshooting for everyone (myself and admins included). We've been discussing the performance of STEP 2.2.1 in another thread and we're also experiencing stuttering. DDSopting all of the textures has helped but not entirely eliminated it. Thanks for bringing this up. I was doing this in the last STEP version with no stuttering at all. I'll have to test doing this again to see if I get any improvement. Since I'm running on my ASUS G7 laptop I'm running the game at lower resolutions than everyone else so I can get away with running lower resolution textures as well without seeing too much of a visual impact.Oki well I guess I will just finish installing the 2.2.1 mod list and then work from there with tweaking. Just another concern of mine, maybe I am missing something, but is there a way to tell what is being editted on the 2.2.1 page? I'm trying to make sure I stay as up to date to that guide as I can, and the page tells me the last time it was updated, but not what was changed. Help?

Why would it be swapping texture data to and from system ram if it isn't yet fully utilizing the 1GB vram I have?My card runs at good temps (about 55C). My entire PC is very well ventilated. I also have a power supply far greater than what my PC requires (not sure if you meant lacking in power supply or actually voltage tweaking my gpu when you said insufficient power. My build: i5 2500k @ 4.5Ghz Asus p8p67 8GB 1600mhz cl9 radeon HD 6850 @ 870mhz core, 1150mhz mem corsair hx750 power supply That just about covers it. My cpu overclock was done at the time of build, the gpu overclock was about a month ago and has been stable, but is there a chance the gpu overclock could be causing the issue? I left it on stock voltages when I overclocked it. To answer your question in short I am using the HDDLC Optimized rather than the full HD texture pack. I am trying to run baseline step 2.2.1 (I know it's still a work in progress but it was decided in another thread that I was better off trying to run that than the outdated 2.2.0a) https://wiki.step-project.com/STEP:2.2.1 I am running all baseline options up till the end of Clothing & Equipment. Animations & Effects section and on I haven't downloaded yet I just don't understand why it is stuttering if everything is seemingly not hitting it's limits yet. I wanted to find out if there were a better explanation before I started disabling mods.

Hey so I've been installing the step mods and have come to realize that my game is stuttering about halfway through the mod list. Â My fps is still decent around 50~ and my vram usage is around 700/1024 according to MSI afterburner. Â What exactly causes the stutter and how can I alleviate it? Edit: a little more detail. Stuttering is happening when panning camera in any direction but most noticable up/down. It appears to be horizontal lines across my screen as the camera spins. I've tried with/without v-sync and it still happens. What is the next step for me to help you troubleshoot?

Is the Boss Userlist Manager still necessary? It seemed like I was able to edit the load list through BOSS already. Am I misinterpreting it's use?

Several have installed 2.2.1 without any or very few issues. Our admin, Z, currently was a complete install I think as well. There is most likely going to be some changes here and there, but we're pushing to get it into the testing phase right now. If you decide to use 2.2.1, please post any issues you many encounter, with as much detail as possible, in the 2.2.1 changelog thread.I just want to add that if you use WB then it'll be very easy to update everything when v2.2.1 is actually released.Yeah I was actually trying not to use it the first time around, but I'm starting to see the usefulness of it.I just hate clutter so I was avoiding anything not 100% needed. I think what I will do is as stated above, install 2.2.1 and use WB to modify things as the wiki is updated.

No, I've never installed STEP before. I tried and failed because of all the discrepancies between updates and different versions. If it were possible to use everything that was used back when the guide was released this would be easy, but mods and game versions have updated since and old versions are not available. This is why there is a problem because now I am left with bits and pieces of mods that are no longer relevant or are broken due to game updates. While we haven't completed testing, you could also follow the list that is in 2.2.1. Just know that the listing and instructions are bound to change slightly for some mods.Well that is sort of what I was wondering if it is in a stage where it is reliable enough to enjoy and be playable, or if it is just riddled with bugs*edit: I'm trying to weigh out between the 2 options since trying to follow the old guide will probably run across a handful of bugs as well. Which would you think is more problem free?

No, I've never installed STEP before. I tried and failed because of all the discrepancies between updates and different versions. If it were possible to use everything that was used back when the guide was released this would be easy, but mods and game versions have updated since and old versions are not available. This is why there is a problem because now I am left with bits and pieces of mods that are no longer relevant or are broken due to game updates.

IN regards to Skyrim version, that could be worded a little better in the guide. The reason Skyrim version is important, is because it plays a big part in our testing. But by no means is the STEP guide meant to be limited to specific versions.The reason I thought It might be important is just the period it time STEP was last updated. By the looks of the changelog a lot of the mods are obsolete/broken at this point because not only has the game updated but all the mods I'm being asked to apply are no longer the same mods they were back in september when 2.2.0 was released because they are all updated and different now as well. Also some of the mods ARE version dependent and either should/shouldn't be run with a newer version of skyrim, no? Does anyone know the status on 2.2.1? Is it very closely nearing release? If it will be released soonish I will gladly just wait for the smoothest experience but if it will be a while I can try and tinker with 2.2.0a. It is true that some mods will be version specific (bug fix, new feature, etc.). The version specific information (I did not make clear) is related to the mods themselves. Since mods do get updated, following any version of STEP assumes you are on the latest version of Skyrim. That is why Skyrim version is important in our testing, primarily because we will always test against the latest version, and never previous ones. We also don't specifically call out the versions of mods that are used in the guide (unless a specific version has to be used for whatever reason). So I guess the point is, if your Skyrim is not at the latest version, you could stumble across problems with mods regardless of which version of STEP you follow. There will be cases where certain mods won't work anymore, but they should be very few. As for a release date for STEP 2.2.1, we don't have one yet. Still some work to do on our end. Ok thank you very much. I will go ahead and fully update and follow the 2.2.0a guide as closely as I can then. I'm excited as all hell to try this out! haha

IN regards to Skyrim version, that could be worded a little better in the guide. The reason Skyrim version is important, is because it plays a big part in our testing. But by no means is the STEP guide meant to be limited to specific versions.The reason I thought It might be important is just the period it time STEP was last updated. By the looks of the changelog a lot of the mods are obsolete/broken at this point because not only has the game updated but all the mods I'm being asked to apply are no longer the same mods they were back in september when 2.2.0 was released because they are all updated and different now as well. Also some of the mods ARE version dependent and either should/shouldn't be run with a newer version of skyrim, no? Does anyone know the status on 2.2.1? Is it very closely nearing release? If it will be released soonish I will gladly just wait for the smoothest experience but if it will be a while I can try and tinker with 2.2.0a.

So I was trying to install STEP 2.2.0a but realized that some of the things on it are now incompatible and outdated. Step 2.2.0a is meant for skyrim 1.7.7 if I'm not mistaken.  Near the top of the list of the mods to install is the unofficial skyrim/dawnguard patch, but those patches have been updated to only run on "1.8.151.0.7+".  I wasn't able to find any version of the unofficial patch to install on my 1.7.7 skyrim. Earlier in the guide it mentions that each version of step is meant to be run on a specific version of skyrim so I assumed I am not supposed to just update to 1.8.xxxxxx and slap all the same mods on. Now I noticed there is a work in progress 2.2.1 that is all up to date but it is warned not to use it unless I know what I am doing and clearly I do not. So my question is, how the hell do I install STEP at this current time? What is the proper way to go about it? Thanks for any input in advance. -Matt Edit: TL;DR Solution for anyone else with the same problems/questions. Fully update your skyrim and follow the 2.2.0a STEP as closely as you can. Edit: Maybe not. Read the thread lulz. It could be beneficial to install 2.2.1 in it's incomplete form. There is no TL;DR