Great, thanks for the explanations, it's appreciated. Another question though: I did install an older version of skyre recently, not the LE. This was in an older wiki entry that had been last updated in january or february. Anyway, this old wiki involved loads and loads of manual TES5edit cleaning, user made patch creation and copying cell values between esp's. Now at first glance both the LE wikis (old and new) seem to have much less of that except for itm and udr stuff. Is that correct or due to them being basically in work in progress state?