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: {{yes}} ~[[User:Farlo|Farlo]][[File:User Farlo Sig.png|19px|link=User:Farlo]]<small>[[User talk:Farlo|Talk]]</small> 15:23, June 9, 2013 (MDT) | : {{yes}} ~[[User:Farlo|Farlo]][[File:User Farlo Sig.png|19px|link=User:Farlo]]<small>[[User talk:Farlo|Talk]]</small> 15:23, June 9, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{yes}} [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:43, June 10, 2013 (MDT) | : {{yes}} [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 01:43, June 10, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{yes|yellow}} (if it is a fix "as it is" yes, otherwise it's not necessary)[[User:Thecompiler|Thecompiler]] ([[User talk:Thecompiler|talk]]) 06:32, June 12, 2013 (MDT) | |||
== [[The Choice is Yours]] == | == [[The Choice is Yours]] == | ||
Revision as of 12:32, June 12, 2013
Ars Metallica-Smithing[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Makes non-vanilla changes to smithing and perks.
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 00:49, June 8, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 13:32, June 8, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~z929669
Talk 01:12, June 9, 2013 (MDT) - Template:No ~Farlo
Talk 14:43, June 9, 2013 (MDT) - Template:No Solist (talk) 10:32, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Auto Unequip Ammo[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:05, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:44, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 00:46, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 10:34, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Bring Out Your Dead[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Adds already present content to different locations
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:13, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:28, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (Depending on how "intrusive" it is) ~FarloTalk 14:45, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (I could go either way on this one) Techangel85 (talk) 00:49, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (Much like everyone else, I've always been rather indifferent about this mod. I use it simply because it's part of STEP - I haven't really ever paid any special attention to it. Solist (talk) 10:35, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Candle Lanterns of the North[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Not vanilla and not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:59, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:23, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:46, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:19, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 10:48, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Clams Drop Pearls[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes corrects an inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:59, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:47, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:19, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 10:52, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Convenient Horses[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Fixes some oversights in the vanilla game such as overly combative horses and allowing a follower to ride along with the player. (kryptopyr)
- Template:No Goes much further than vanilla and adds many more features, possibly deviating too far from vanilla. (kryptopyr)
- Template:No I've always felt this mod adds more than necessary in its core focus where just fixing horses would have been great, then optionals for the extra fluff. (Solist)
- Template:Yes Most of the additions are optional and can be turned off or easily ignored (for example, I've never used any of the auto-looting features, horse armors, or horse inventory). The changes do improve functionality of horses in the game and are a huge improvement over the vanilla horses. Also, because all of the changes are centered on horseback riding, I don't think there is a high potential for conflict with other mods, and the changes don't really alter general gameplay. (kryptopyr)
- Template:No Conflicts with anything that modifies Horse.nif or Shadowmere.nif without a compatibility patch such as Better Horses mod.
- Template:No Warning message is the same as Footprints mod which leads to saved game bloat, errors, and possibly breaking the save:
IMPORTANT: Before uninstalling the mod disable it via console (StopQuest CH) or scripts will remain in your save!
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No (changed my vote - swayed by tech's argument about problems with uninstalling, which would make it more difficult for packs to customize their mod lists) Kryptopyr (talk) 13:55, June 8, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (barebones settings only) ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (with minimal settings) ~FarloTalk 14:50, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No (not worth it if the result of users incorrectly uninstalling it is a broken game plus the potential for conflicts. I beg you guys to reconsider this one for pack only!) Techangel85 (talk) 00:35, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (Only if done so with the most bare-bones install possible; more inclined for this to be part of a STEP Pack though) Solist (talk) 16:21, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Death Cam Duration Options[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:03, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:50, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:20, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 16:22, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Disable Thieves Guild Autostart[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Not vanilla intention. Blocks users from certain aspects of the game. ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- For me, this is a fix. This doesn't block anything. It gives the player the choice to start the Thieves Guide quests or not by talking to the guy who autostarts it initially. As these quests have nothing to do with the main storyline, I feel this was an oversight in development. Some players may want nothing to do with the Guild and having it autostart is a complete annoyance. (Tech)
- Agree with tech on this, I did not like being forced into having to do anything associated with that quest line my first playthrough of the game, and in subsequent even when playing a character that pursued the thieves guild, I didn't like how the quest was essentially forced on you. I prefer it to be something that is discovered/unlocked sort of like the Companion's Guild was. (Solist)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:51, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 00:33, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 16:23, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (for me it's a yes if what tech and solist are saying is true, never tested it myself) Thecompiler (talk) 06:27, June 12, 2013 (MDT)
Drop Lit Torches[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes A sensible correction of vanilla gameplay ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:21, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 17:49, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Dual Wield Parrying[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes A sensible vanilla correction ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No An ingame loading screen suggests the non blocking is intended for the gameplay balance ~TC
- I believe that the loading screen in question states "Dual wielding potentially doubles melee damage output... but prevents any kind of blocking." Sorry, no screenshot, I pulled it from the CK. (krypt)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 17:49, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Dynamic Fires[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No An unnecessary esp for an unnecessary feature, not for Core STEP imo ~TC
- Template:No Causes issues of some fire "going out" that shouldn't. Such as hearths.
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:30, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 02:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:58, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:23, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 17:50, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Follower Trap Safety[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No This is nonessential and not necessarily an improvement ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Causes follows to not trigger traps
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:24, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 17:50, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Gildergreen Regrown[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Corrects inconsistency of storyline of sapling regrowing. Vanilla, you never see it grow. This mod, you do.
- Template:No Not an improvement; not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (I could go either way on this one) Techangel85 (talk) 01:27, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes WilliamImm (talk) 04:42, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 17:51, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 18:08, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 06:29, June 12, 2013 (MDT)
Guard Dialogue Overhaul[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Changes are all vanilla-friendly and in most cases do seem to adhere to the original intentions of the game designers that just didn't get properly implemented in the vanilla game. (kryptopyr)
- This one and others that we are keeping for similar reasons really should go into Sec D - Fixes. ~z929669 Talk 02:03, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:01, June 8, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:41, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 02:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:28, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 17:53, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Lantern Caretakers[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Supports a mod that adds new assets to the game ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:03, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:29, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Lock Overhaul[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Adds missing features that can be considered an oversight. (Why can't I swing my axe and bash the lock?)
- Template:No Makes leveling "lockpicking" easier
- Template:No Adds non-vanilla features
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:04, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:06, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:34, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
More Salt Please[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:05, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:07, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:35, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Move It Dammit[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes This is a decent 'correction' of a frequent vanilla problem ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes This mod changes four game settings. We just replaced Realistic Crime Radius in favor of changes via Wrye Bash. Perhaps we can do something similar for these settings? (krypt)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:06, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No (if it can be done via tweaks) ~FarloTalk 15:10, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (unless it can be done via tweaks) Techangel85 (talk) 01:36, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
No NPC Greetings[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes I do feel some reduction in this distance is necessary. I've had to replay too many conversations due to random NPCs talking over the more-important conversation my character was trying to have. (krypt)
- Template:No However, this mod only changes a single game setting. Is it worth an entire plugin slot? (krypt)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (I'd rather see it done via tweaks) ~FarloTalk 15:11, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:37, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Non-Essential Children[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes corrects a vanilla inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No As far as i know, Dragonborn children are not addressed. This could break immersion ~TC
- The changes should apply to Dragonborn. It was decided that a patch wasn't really necessary. As far as I'm aware, the only thing lacking is a unique inventory for Aeta (she'll simply have her normal vanilla inventory). (krypt)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:15, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:38, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (if it does work as intended yes, last time it didn't for me, maybe just my problem Thecompiler (talk) 06:31, June 12, 2013 (MDT)
Oblivion Gates[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:11, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:38, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Paarthurnax Dilemma[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes 'Corrects' an oversight ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Devates from a vanilla quest line ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- (Guys this one is no different than Gildergreen Regrown. So why is one being approved and the other one not?)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:09, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:19, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:39, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Run For Your Lives[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes a sensible 'correction' ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:08, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:19, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:42, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Skyrim Coin Replacer[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Not vanilla intent ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Arguably a 'correction' of a vanilla inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Potential for conflicts due to changes made to cells, containers, leveled lists, etc. (kryptopyr)
- Template:No Adds new items that give a ton of money. ~FarloTalk 15:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:09, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:42, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Skyrim Uncapper[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Pretty much a 'fix' IMO as long as its use is limited and specified ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:23, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:43, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (if it is a fix "as it is" yes, otherwise it's not necessary)Thecompiler (talk) 06:32, June 12, 2013 (MDT)
The Choice is Yours[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Changes dialogues, quest requirements, and quests. ~FarloTalk 15:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Wasn't seeing a problem with this until that paragraph right above the GEMS badge. Wish the author would provide a version without those extra changes that go beyond simple fixes for autostarting quests.
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:47, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Traps Make Noise[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:48, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Wearable Lanterns[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Not a vanilla intent ~z929669 Talk 02:04, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:02, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:48, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Lanterns for Caravans[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Plausible that caravans did have lanterns to help them see. Most did back in the day in our realm. (Tech)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:50, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Lanterns for Guards[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:27, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:50, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
When Vampires Attack[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:12, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:53, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:51, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Wet & Cold[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Potentially unsafe for using the cloaking method, and a bit advanced mod to be in Core STEP ~TC
- Template:No I recommend adding Get Snow in Core STEP (it doesn't use scripts and it's very light), and instruct to remove it if installing the Pack with W&C ~TC
- Template:Yes Though I agree this might be too script heavy for Core, most of the features I feel are oversights from vanilla. (Tech)
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:42, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:54, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
Wet & Cold - Ashes[edit | edit source]
Arguments[edit | edit source]
Votes[edit | edit source]
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:10, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:30, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:55, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
