STEP:Core Proposal/M

Ars Metallica-Smithing

Arguments

• Template:No Makes non-vanilla changes to smithing and perks.

Votes

• Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 00:49, June 8, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 13:32, June 8, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:12, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:43, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Auto Unequip Ammo

Votes

• Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:05, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:44, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Bring Out Your Dead

Votes

• Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:13, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:28, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes (Depending on how "intrusive" it is) ~FarloTalk 14:45, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Candle Lanterns of the North

Arguments

• Template:No Not vanilla and not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

• Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:59, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:23, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:46, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Clams Drop Pearls

Arguments

• Template:Yes corrects an inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

• Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:59, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:47, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Convenient Horses

Arguments

• Template:Yes Fixes some oversights in the vanilla game such as overly combative horses and allowing a follower to ride along with the player. (kryptopyr)
• Template:No Goes much further than vanilla and adds many more features, possibly deviating too far from vanilla. (kryptopyr)
• Template:Yes Most of the additions are optional and can be turned off or easily ignored (I don't remember if they start out turned off by default or not). The changes do improve functionality of horses in the game, but they don't really alter any other aspect of gameplay. Also, because all of the changes are centered on horseback riding, I don't think there is a high potential for conflict with other mods. (kryptopyr)

Votes

I'm still debating on whether I feel this one should be in Core STEP. It's such a huge improvement over the vanilla horses, and I don't think any of the mandatory changes really deviate too far from what I would consider to be vanilla-friendly enhancements. Nothing over-the-top and nothing that would break general gameplay in any way. I don't use any of the auto-looting features, horse armors, or horse inventory...but these are all easy to disable. Kryptopyr (talk) 13:55, June 8, 2013 (MDT)

• Template:Yes (barebones settings only) ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes (with minimal settings) ~FarloTalk 14:50, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Death Cam Duration Options

Arguments

• Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

• Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:03, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:50, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Disable Thieves Guild Autostart

Arguments

• Template:No Not vanilla intention. Blocks users from certain aspects of the game. ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

• Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:51, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Drop Lit Torches

Arguments

• Template:Yes A sensible correction of vanilla gameplay ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

• Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 14:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Dual Wield Parrying

Arguments

• Template:Yes A sensible vanilla correction ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No An ingame loading screen suggests the non blocking is intended for the gameplay balance ~TC
  • pics or it didn't happen. ~FarloTalk 14:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

• Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:29, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Dynamic Fires

Arguments

• Template:No An unnecessary esp for an unnecessary feature, not for Core STEP imo ~TC

Votes

• Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:30, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~z929669 Talk 02:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No ~FarloTalk 14:58, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Follower Trap Safety

Arguments

• Template:No This is nonessential and not necessarily an improvement ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Gildergreen Regrown

Arguments

• Template:No Not an improvement; not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:00, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Guard Dialogue Overhaul

Arguments

• Template:Yes Changes are all vanilla-friendly and in most cases do seem to adhere to the original intentions of the game designers that just didn't get properly implemented in the vanilla game. (kryptopyr)
• This one and others that we are keeping for similar reasons really should go into Sec D - Fixes. ~z929669 Talk 02:03, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:01, June 8, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 01:41, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 02:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Lantern Caretakers

Arguments

• Template:No Supports a mod that adds new assets to the game ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:03, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:01, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Lock Overhaul

Votes

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:04, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:06, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

More Salt Please

Arguments

• Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:05, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 08:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:07, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Move It Dammit

Arguments

• Template:Yes This is a decent 'correction' of a frequent vanilla problem ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No This mod changes four game settings. We just replaced Realistic Crime Radius in favor of changes via Wrye Bash. We should consider doing the same for these settings. (krypt)

Votes

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:06, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (if it can be done via tweaks) ~FarloTalk 15:10, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

No NPC Greetings

Arguments

• Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes I do feel some reduction in this distance is necessary. I've had to replay too many conversations due to random NPCs talking over the more-important conversation my character was trying to have. (krypt)
• Template:No However, this mod only changes a single game setting. It's not worth an entire plugin slot. If we keep this change, it should be implemented via Wrye Bash. (krypt)

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (I'd rather see it done via tweaks) ~FarloTalk 15:11, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Non-Essential Children

Arguments

• Template:Yes corrects a vanilla inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No As far as i know, Dragonborn children are not addressed. This could break immersion ~TC

The changes should apply to Dragonborn. It was decided that a patch wasn't really necessary. As far as I'm aware, the only thing lacking is a unique inventory for Aeta (she'll simply have her normal vanilla inventory). (krypt)

Votes

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:15, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Oblivion Gates

Arguments

• Template:No Not necessary ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:11, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:17, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Paarthurnax Dilemma

Arguments

• Template:Yes 'Corrects' an oversight ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Devates from a vanilla quest line ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:09, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:19, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Run For Your Lives

Arguments

• Template:Yes a sensible 'correction' ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:08, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:52, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:19, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Skyrim Coin Replacer

Arguments

• Template:No Not vanilla intent ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:Yes Arguably a 'correction' of a vanilla inconsistency ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
• Template:No Potential for conflicts due to changes made to cells, containers, leveled lists, etc. (kryptopyr)
• Template:No Adds new items that give a ton of money. ~FarloTalk 15:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:09, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:22, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Skyrim Uncapper

Arguments

• Template:Yes Pretty much a 'fix' IMO as long as its use is limited and specified ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:23, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

The Choice is Yours

Arguments

• Template:No Changes dialogues, quest requirements, and quests. ~FarloTalk 15:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Traps Make Noise

Votes

Template:Yes ~FarloTalk 15:25, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Wearable Lanterns

Arguments

• Template:No Not a vanilla intent ~z929669 Talk 02:04, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Votes

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 01:54, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:02, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Lanterns for Caravans

Votes

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:26, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Lanterns for Guards

Votes

Template:No ~FarloTalk 15:27, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

When Vampires Attack

Votes

Template:Yes Thecompiler (talk) 02:12, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:53, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Wet & Cold

Arguments

• Template:No Potentially unsafe for using the cloaking method, and a bit advanced mod to be in Core STEP ~TC
• Template:No I recommend adding Get Snow in Core STEP (it doesn't use scripts and it's very light), and instruct to remove it if installing the Pack with W&C ~TC

Votes

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:42, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Wet & Cold - Ashes

Votes

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 02:10, June 9, 2013 (MDT)