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: {{no}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 20:08, June 22, 2013 (MDT) | : {{no}} [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 20:08, June 22, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{no}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|20px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT) | : {{no}} ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|20px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{ | : {{icon|type=yesyellow}} Pack [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT) | ||
== [[Destructible Bottles]] == | == [[Destructible Bottles]] == | ||
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== [[Not Really HD-Keys]] == | == [[Not Really HD-Keys]] == | ||
==== Votes ==== | ==== Votes ==== | ||
: {{ | : {{icon|type=yesyellow}} HQ vanilla-friendly improvement (I could take this one or leave it) [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 11:08, June 11, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{yes}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 14:25, June 16, 2013 (MDT) | : {{yes}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 14:25, June 16, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{yes}} (small improvement) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 20:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT) | : {{yes}} (small improvement) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 20:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT) | ||
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== [[Radiant & Unique Potions & Poisons]] == | == [[Radiant & Unique Potions & Poisons]] == | ||
==== Votes ==== | ==== Votes ==== | ||
: {{ | : {{icon|type=yesyellow}} Most are HQ replacements. Some are too "vibrant" for vanilla IMO. (I could go either way on this one) [[User:Techangel85|Techangel85]] ([[User talk:Techangel85|talk]]) 11:24, June 11, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{yes}} (potions are magical and should be distinctive; this mod includes a large set of HD replacements) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 14:18, June 13, 2013 (MDT) | : {{yes}} (potions are magical and should be distinctive; this mod includes a large set of HD replacements) [[User:Kelmych|Kelmych]] ([[User talk:Kelmych|talk]]) 14:18, June 13, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{no}} Many of these look out of place compared to other vanilla items. [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 14:34, June 16, 2013 (MDT) | : {{no}} Many of these look out of place compared to other vanilla items. [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 14:34, June 16, 2013 (MDT) | ||
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: {{no}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 22:06, June 15, 2013 (MDT) | : {{no}} [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 22:06, June 15, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{no}} I think that this is a realistic rendition, but it may be better for a Pack for that reason. ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|20px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT) | : {{no}} I think that this is a realistic rendition, but it may be better for a Pack for that reason. ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|20px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{ | : {{icon|type=yesyellow}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT) | ||
== [[Realistic Paper]] == | == [[Realistic Paper]] == | ||
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: {{no}} Most of the selections would be a departure from vanilla, and preferences may vary wildly (from colorful Morrowind-style to only subtle differences in color) so I think this one is best suited to packs. [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 22:11, June 15, 2013 (MDT) | : {{no}} Most of the selections would be a departure from vanilla, and preferences may vary wildly (from colorful Morrowind-style to only subtle differences in color) so I think this one is best suited to packs. [[User:Kryptopyr|Kryptopyr]] ([[User talk:Kryptopyr|talk]]) 22:11, June 15, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{yes}} The vanilla-friendly versions are true to vanilla and also allow distinctions among the types -- and a correction to a vanilla oversight, IMO. Also, there is already a precedent for differing SGs in TES games. ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|20px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT) | : {{yes}} The vanilla-friendly versions are true to vanilla and also allow distinctions among the types -- and a correction to a vanilla oversight, IMO. Also, there is already a precedent for differing SGs in TES games. ~[[User:z929669|z929669]] [[File:Ixian_Insignia.png|20px|link=User:z929669]] [[User talk:z929669|Talk]] 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT) | ||
: {{ | : {{icon|type=yesyellow}} [[User:Solist|Solist]] ([[User talk:Solist|talk]]) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT) | ||
== [[Super Realistic Ore]] == | == [[Super Realistic Ore]] == |
Revision as of 19:32, October 29, 2020
The 418th Step
Votes
- Template:No I've never really been convinced by the appearance that the text was carved into the stone. It looks like an obvious overlay, which breaks immersion rather than enhancing it. Like Lore-Based Loading Screens, I don't really feel this addition is worth the .esp slot. Kryptopyr (talk) 17:48, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:56, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No (interesting but very small change, and requires esp slot; there are other immersion mods I think are more useful) Kelmych (talk) 19:38, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 11:28, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 21:21, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Better Bones
Votes
- Template:No Bones look dirty, rough, and charred, which is appropriate in some cases but not all. Even old bones often have a smooth white appearance. Kryptopyr (talk) 17:51, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Not an actually improvement from my standpoint. Techangel85 (talk) 01:57, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kelmych (talk) 19:38, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No~z929669 Talk 11:28, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Better Shadowmarks
Votes
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:43, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:58, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:11, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes~z929669 Talk 11:28, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored
Votes
- Template:No The style of this retexture looks out of place. Techangel85 (talk) 02:00, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No (address only one "guild" in Skyrim, and change doesn't significantly improve immersion) Kelmych (talk) 19:40, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 07:52, June 26, 2013 (MDT)
Designs of the Nords
Votes
- Template:No I like these designs better than vanilla in most cases, but the mod probably strays too far from the vanilla style to be appropriate for Core STEP. Kryptopyr (talk) 17:55, June 10, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No I want to keep it for the pack, but I agree that the style is just over the line to be included in Core. Techangel85 (talk) 02:04, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kelmych (talk) 20:08, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Pack Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Destructible Bottles
Votes
- Template:No Having bottles break when struck is both much more realistic and a good stress reliever. Very buggy. Known to sometimes stop the Unrelenting Force shout from working, can cause bounties to raise inadvertently in certain places, and apparently causes save game bloat. Needs to be remade to be in STEP. WilliamImm (talk) 06:20, June 6, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 21:12, June 7, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:24, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No (expansion vs. fix for vanilla) Kelmych (talk) 20:09, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 07:52, June 26, 2013 (MDT)
Detailed Rugs
Votes
- Template:Yes Direct improvement of vanilla textures in most cases. Techangel85 (talk) 21:16, June 7, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:12, June 9, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:12, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Enhanced Dragon Bones
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:55, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 22:03, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:02, June 27, 2013 (MDT)
HD Baskets
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:56, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:12, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:16, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
HD Linens
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:57, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:13, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:16, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
HD Ore & Ingots
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:57, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:10, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 07:53, June 26, 2013 (MDT)
HD Sacks
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:58, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:13, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes I don't feel that STEP necessarily needs to change it's recommendation, but I do think that Type A is closer to vanilla for the big sack, while Type B is closer for the small sack. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:18, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
HQ Skyrim Map
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:01, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 06:47, June 27, 2013 (MDT)
Intricate Spider Webs
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:03, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:22, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:21, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
New Thinner Torch
Votes
- Template:Yes I consider this to be a fix. Techangel85 (talk) 11:04, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:19, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:22, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Not Really HD-Display Case
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ improvement. Wood is a bit darker than vanilla. Looks a bit out of place; however, so does vanilla IMO. Techangel85 (talk) 11:06, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:25, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:12, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Not Really HD-Keys
Votes
- HQ vanilla-friendly improvement (I could take this one or leave it) Techangel85 (talk) 11:08, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:25, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (small improvement) Kelmych (talk) 20:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Pilgrim's Delight
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvementTechangel85 (talk) 11:09, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Isn't the Legacy version more lore-friendly than the dragon runes? The inscriptions would have been intended for the Nords, not for the dragons, and while the Graybeards can read the dragon script, I'm not sure most pilgrims would be able to. (I prefer the Legacy version, but either one is an improvement) Kryptopyr (talk) 14:29, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:13, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Agree to use 'legacy' version. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Radiant & Unique Potions & Poisons
Votes
- Most are HQ replacements. Some are too "vibrant" for vanilla IMO. (I could go either way on this one) Techangel85 (talk) 11:24, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (potions are magical and should be distinctive; this mod includes a large set of HD replacements) Kelmych (talk) 14:18, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Many of these look out of place compared to other vanilla items. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:34, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No We need some sort of visual identification for the items, right? But, conflicts with anything that modifies potions or booze in any way. Wish Bash had more patching functionality... (I love the idea, but I'm not sure about the implemtation) WilliamImm (talk) 21:22, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No We need to use Silly Level of Detail-Potions & Poisons 'ceramic' for STEP. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Realistic Instruments
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement. Not sure I would consider this vanilla-friendly. It definitely changes the appearance of the instruments. Techangel85 (talk) 11:25, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:18, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 22:06, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No I think that this is a realistic rendition, but it may be better for a Pack for that reason. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Realistic Paper
Votes
- Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 11:25, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes I prefer Main over Dark, but either one is a vanilla-friendly texture improvement. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:37, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:13, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Main version is more like vanilla ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Septim HD
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:26, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:38, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:15, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No The originals are much better and representative of low-tech minting that would have been prevalent in Skyrim. Also, vanilla looks more worn, which is better, IMO ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Shrines HD
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement. Changes coloring of two shrines (not a big deal for me, Tech) Techangel85 (talk) 11:28, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:39, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No (I still prefer Psychosteve's version; this also changes some shrine colors) Kelmych (talk) 20:17, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Too different from Vanilla. I also really hate the blue water in Stendarr (what exactly is this material??) ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Honestly, not that different from vanilla, and adds a little more variety to the shrines as well. WilliamImm (talk) 21:50, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Silly Level of Detail-Potions & Poisons
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:28, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes I completely agree with z, Ceramic version looks much better than RUPP. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:43, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (I prefer RUPP which has better distinctive HD bottles but these are closer to vanilla; RUPP should be in the new pack as an optional replacement as I feel most users prefer it) Kelmych (talk) 20:19, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Definitely prefer 'ceramic' version over Radiant & Unique Potions & Poisons. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Silly Level of Detail-Wine Cellar
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:29, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:43, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No (only 2 of the textures are HD; the remaining ones are similar quality to vanilla. Except for the 2 HD ones I prefer the ones in RUPP (similar to the choice made for TPC)) Kelmych (talk) 19:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Skyrim Redesigned
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement of many items in the game Techangel85 (talk) 11:30, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:12, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Only if using the current STEP BCF. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 06:57, June 27, 2013 (MDT)
Soul Gems Differ
Votes
- Template:No I don't believe this to be a vanilla oversight Techangel85 (talk) 11:31, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes the gems should be visually distinctive and they aren't sufficiently so in vanilla Kelmych (talk) 14:16, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:No Most of the selections would be a departure from vanilla, and preferences may vary wildly (from colorful Morrowind-style to only subtle differences in color) so I think this one is best suited to packs. Kryptopyr (talk) 22:11, June 15, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes The vanilla-friendly versions are true to vanilla and also allow distinctions among the types -- and a correction to a vanilla oversight, IMO. Also, there is already a precedent for differing SGs in TES games. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Super Realistic Ore
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:31, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:17, June 13, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:46, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)
Sweet Mother
Votes
- Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:32, June 11, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:48, June 16, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes (I still prefer 83Willows version but this is closer to vanilla) Kelmych (talk) 19:42, June 22, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)
- Template:Yes Solist (talk) 21:25, June 25, 2013 (MDT)