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I have tried...

ATTK light

Attk full, all different combinations of configs


Skyrim Revisited

A very huge multitude of ini tweaks

No tweaks

No mods

Lots of mods

Big mods

Small mods

Lots of drive defrag with high class progs

and most recently i gave CleanMEM a go (utter poo)


I am running...

i5 2500k @4.5GHz

8GB Corsiar Dominator RAM

ASUS Maximus IV Extreme-Z

ASUS 4Gb 670

60Gb Crucial M4 SSD (Windows 7 Ultimate x64)

1TB Samsung (Games and Storage)


I am using...

Mod Organizer

Skyrim Performance Monitor

Skyrim Revisited

Iroha`s guide for ASIS + SkyRe with SR

and a couple of extra mods (AFT, beautiful whiterun, nothing major)

RealVision ENB

and so much patience I really dont know how i`ve managed to not destroy my house


My game is set to...

Ultra settings

SR`s settings

All textures ran though DDSopt (2048x2048, and "the big 3 are all set to 1024x1024)


The highest my RAM gets, is 2.7Gb outdoors. My VRAM 2.3 that i have noticed


WHY THE HELL CANT I PLAY THIS (insert a very large number of incredibly vile and insuilting curse words here) GAME WITHOUT IT FREEZING?!?!?!?! Since i first played through this game all that time ago when it forst came out. I honestly havn`t been able to get higher than level 25 without cheating. My game used to CTD all the time....now i have managed to fix that. (yeah i get the ocasional CTD but its bethesda. We expect it)


Now all im getting is random crap......you can see i`ve posted about this stuff before....My save games randomly decide to not load....then over night....gremlins have booted up my PC fixed everything and turned it all off again. I play for hours without anythign. Then i get to a point where i cat go 5 minutes without freezing....so i CTRL+ALT+DEL reload Skyrim and try again....freezes again.....so i reload, walk another way....it freezes.....so i reload......fast travel......freezes.......If i cant get this game to work in the next 3 days....im just gonna give up completely.....Im gonna delete everything....reinstall my PC with ubuntu and never play games again, coz im really getting sick to death of this.


Before i get someone trying to tell me to try something please read what i have tried.


I really dont understand how nobody else is having the kind of stress and issues that im getting. This game is a pre-pubescent emo girl whinging about not being able to go see her dream homo on stage.


I absolutely refuse to re-install this game anymore. I will not start my character again. I have started more characters than arguments with my GF. i have reinstalled so many times, im surprised skyrims not permanently burned into the platter.


I know that one day someone is going to figure out that fixing this is so simple its gonna be a case of setting something in the ini file to 1.



you have no idea how hard it was not to swear

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Okay I am going to just try to carefully ask if you have done Memtest or a similar Full stress test on your rig to verify that your OC is really REALLY stable ?

Since you are running with overclocked hardware, and you are reporting random stuff that does not work one day, then work the next. This is a clear sign of some sort of hardware issue.

It could very well be that the only change from one day to the next is the tolerance level of the hardware. If could be that it was too hot when you tested, and then the next day when you test again then it is within the limits again, but then gets unstable as you play.


Also I do not know which specific type of dominator you use, but if it is one of the OC ones then that could very well be the issue all on its own. OCing RAM is almost NEVER worth it. But again Memtest or some other stress test utility should bring up errors if that is the case.

The same if you use any of the BIOS OC settings for that Motherboard.

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My CPU OC has been running at 4.5GHz for aslong as i`ve had the CPU. Longer than ive had skyrim. It has stood up to intel burn test for 2 hours. prime95 for a day. Temps never get above 60`C during normal use. In burn test they hit 70.


My Dominator RAM, is XMP to 1866MHz and no further.


I only have issues running skyrim. Nothing else. Ive been playing Crysis on full settings, borderlands too, without any issues. But i`ll try running memtest. see if it flags anything up.


Just turned my logging on and ran back though the last area that froze on me....


Its completely reproduceable, it occurs every single time i go through the same part. my ram is only 2.5 my vram 2.1. went through 3 times, and each time the papyrus log was showing completely different things.....dual wield, lvlpredatorscript, and xxxSurvivalismAutoLeveling. the last 2 wern`t event complete listings in the logs, i dont see that these are causing the issue.


Im also positive that i can run around in another direction and find somewhere else that these ocur. For a while it was only happening at the begining of combat, so i turned off all my sound mods, BFS, and my extra magic mods, but that didnt help either. It only seems to happen when im entering combat (not always straight away but withing the first minute) so sometimes when im attacking but sometimes when someone else is comming at me from somewhere, and almost always outisde.


I dont see that it could be any of the texture mods can be causing it. Thats why i was thinking sounds, but i turned them all off, still happened, so now im thinking one of the mods affecting gameplay, specifically combat....so that leaves my to remove skyre. But if that was the case then surely it must be a big issue with skyre that not just me gets? right? i have taken off all the mods in my list that arn`t in SR or Iroha`s guides, and im still getting it.


If it was an issue with a mod then im sure neovahlen or Iroha would have noticed it in makng their guides and testing. And surely someone else would have got it....


This leave me with my PC, but i know its stable.



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Good that you have stress tested at some point. But how long ago was that ? OC do cause the hardware to degrade faster regardless of cooling, so it could just be because of time. But again any stress test should show if this is the case.


Also when you run with papyrus logging you stress the game engine even more making it more unstable... so it is detrimental to have it on at all times!


A fairly easy way to see if your CTD´s or freezes are memory related is to just disable all pure texture mods and go! Hence not mods like wet and cold, or frostfall which include some of their own textures.

If your issues go away then it is most likely memory related, if not then it is most likely script/mod list related. (Assuming your hardware checks out fine.)


For combat specific issues, try to disable DUEL, Enhanced blood, and Burn freeze shock effects. These are the ones that play the most vital role with combat. Outside of the sounds mods, which you say you already have excluded.


Also do you know how little time we actually spend on playing the game ? :D

Nobody has really been doing any sort of meaningful testing of SR in its current shape, let alone the SkyRe extension.

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If you've tried everything (according to your statement) move all of your save games to a backup folder and delete Skyrim completely from your system, by downloading Skyrim from Steam (and verifying integrity of game cache at least once afterwards) revert to a absolutely 100%ly freshly-steam-downloaded perfectly clean Skyrim install, kill off and delete all gameboosters/side applications/script extenders/non-Bethesda-dll's, get rid of all Overclocks, defrag your harddisk once more, do a chkdsk on all of your harddiscs, check all your drivers are up to date and you're using only whql drivers, (stress-)test your memory, cpu, gpu and hard drive, start a absolutely new character with a new game and then, if you still encounter freezing issues, file a report to beth support. Most likely they won't be able to help you, but who can say for sure but them?

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Seriously - run MemTest. Like you, I tried every conceivable combination of mods and tweaks and still couldn't achieve stability. Also like you, I used the same overclock for over a year and my rig could survive 8 hours of Prime95 and pass IntelBurnTest and Ungine Heaven Benchmarks with flying colors. I was 200% sure that my system was completely rock-solid stable... but 5 minutes of MemTest completely shattered that notion.


The worst that could happen is that you waste half an hour confirming what you already know. ;)

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Well, ive spent the day checking.


ran memtest......all ok

stress tested my cpu......IBT 20 runs through on maximum, prime 95 on maximum ram settings...all ok.


My next point of call is im gonna remove all the texture mods i can without removing any esp`s (that way i can run my current save without issue) that way reducing ram usage down to bare minimum. And run the game without ENB. See if i still get issues. If i do, im gonna try taking out BFS, enhaced blood etc that could be issues.


Here is my current Mod list ( "--" denotes NON Skyrim Revisited mods for my own refference)

Note i am not using Duel or any of the tk mods. only things i have taken from Iroah`s guide are, ASIS, SkyRe, Fantasy Music, and the spell eraser.


# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

+-- No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu

+-- AutoSave Manager

+SUM - SkyProc Unified Manager

+-- ENB Partcle Fix + WATER patch

+-- SkyRe ReProccer Compatibility Patches

+-- Balbor-and-Steelsouls ReProccer Patch V3-6

+-- ReProccer_21

+-- Etherial Elven Overhaul - Skyre Patch

+-- Guard Dialogue Overhaul - SkyRe Compatibility Patch

+-- Dual Sheath Redux - SkyRe Patch

+-- Skill Interface Re-Texture - SkyRe Patch

+-- T3nd0s Skyrim Redone

+-- ASIS

+-- Apocalypse v4.00

+-- Spell Eraser

+-- Werewolf Perks Expanded 1_6

+-- Swift Potion Reborn

+-- moonpath to Elsweyr

+-- Improved Dragon Shouts v0-9 - Balanced Edition

+-- Dynamic Difficulty 142

+-- Auto Unequip Helmet v1 1 Dawnguard

+Werewolf Mastery - Moonlight Tales Compatible Version

+Traps Make Noise

+Trade and Barter

+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod

+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper

+Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit

+Non-Essential Children with Inventory Tweaks

+Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul

+Lock Overhaul

+Dual Wield Parrying

+Dual Sheath Redux - Skyrim De-Larp

+Dual Sheath Redux - Immersive Weapons

+Dual Sheath Redux - Immersive Armors

+Dual Sheath Redux - Elemental Staffs

+Dual Sheath Redux - XMPS Sword on Back update

+Dual Sheath Redux

+SM Drop Lit Torches

+Convenient Horses

+Better Vampires by Brehanin 6-1

+Auto Unequip Ammo

+Alternate Start - Live Another Life

+Acquisitive Soul Gems

+Achieve That

+-- Sexy Lydia Voiceover

+Ultra Realistic Crossbow Shoot Sounds

+Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds

+Thundering shouts

+Smooth blade draw and Sheathe

+SILENT Skyrim - Quieter Interface - No More UI Cartoon Noises

+Roosters At Dawn

+Realistic wolf howls

+IHSS - Improved Horse Step Sounds

+Improved Combat Sounds

+Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul

+Clanking Armor

+Better Weapon Swing Sounds

+Better Horse Pain Sounds

+FSS - Better Bards

+Better Animal Footsteps

+Ambient Seagulls

+Activate Fail Noise Removal

+-- Tribunal Robes by Zairaam Fix v1

+-- Tribunal RobesMasks + No cloaks + Hood patch

+-- aMidianBorn Textures for Immersive Armors and LFTP

+-- Immersive Armors for NPCs

+-- Immersive Armors v6

+-- Immersive Weapons

+-- JaySuS Swords V13E

+-- Crossbow Basic Collection 1 1 2 EN LL

+-- Remodeled Armor - Substitution with Vanilla

+-- Remodeled Armor

+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards with Thinner Blades - Dragonborn

+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards with Thinner Blades - Dawnguard

+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards with Thinner Blades

+Wearable Lanterns SMIM Patch

+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project - Dragonborn

+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project - Dawnguard

+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project

+Dark Nemesis Armor - Ebony Reincarnation

+Improved closefaced helmets + Dawnguard

+Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows

+Daedric Armor and weapon Improvement

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Armors

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Weapons

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - Uniques

+Winter Is Coming - Cloaks

+Wearable Lanterns

+Virtus Imperii - Imperial Gear Re-mastered


+Not Really HD Mask of Clavicus Vile

+Nightingale Prime HD

+Jewels of the Nord - HD rings and necklaces

+Jester Outfit ReTexture -Standalone and Craftable-

+Hvergelmirs Shield Retexture - HSR

+Enchantment Effect Replacer

+Elven Weapons for Silence

+Elemental Staffs + Update

+Deadly Serious Shrouded Armor

+Dawnguard Vampire Armors Retexture - Hood

+Dawnguard Vampire Armors Retexture

+Dawnguard Crossbow Explosive Bolts Visualized

+Cloaks of Skyrim - DawnGuard

+Cloaks of Skyrim

+Better Circlets HQ V1o1

+Bandolier - Dawnguard

+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches

+Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement

+Unique Dragon Priest Masks - HD textures

+Animated Weapon Enchants

+aMidianBorn Nordic Carved

+Accingite Vos - Shields HQ Retextures

+-- AmazingFollowerTweaks

+When Vampires Attack

+Wet and Cold - Ashes

+Wet and Cold

+Run For Your Lives

+Player Headtracking 3.2

+No NPC Greetings - Slightly Reduced

+Move_it - Less Wait Time

+Guard Dialogue Overhaul

+Dual Wield Blocking Animations

+Immersive Animations

+XPMS - Back Hip Dagger n Back 1H Sword - Cheskos

+Running with a bow 3rd person

+No Spinning Death Animation

+Female BBB and Male Breathing Idles V0_1

+New Animation for magic cast v0-8 - NMM installer

+FNIS Behavior V3 5 -- ALWAYS necessary

+Female Facial Animation 1_1


+Better Turn Animation Only One Pose + Crossed Swords Fix

+Argonian Sneak Tail Twist Fix


+-- Lydia Young Petite Coed Version -ADULT-

+XCE Warpaint and Dirt-1_00


+High Res EEO Tintmasks-Warpaints fitted for Mature skin

+High Res Vanilla Blackblood warpaints for SKSE

+High Res Male Face Makeup for SKSE

+High Res female lips for Mature skin by maevan2

+High Res Female Face Makeup for SKSE

+-- All in One Face v4_0b Face Pack for CBBE

+-- Mature skin texture and body for UNP CBBE ADEC

+-- Calientes Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition + Lip Masks

+children dirt skin

+Diverse Guards Skyrim 4-4 BSA

+coverkhajiits female version

+Consistent Older People - EEO Patch

+Consistent Older People - Bring Out Your Dead Patch

+Consistent Older People 15 All NPCs Realistic Teeth

+Better Freckles v1_0_1


+The Eyes Of Beauty Dawnguard Update

+Natural Eyes High Res 1_3

+AOF Believable Hair- FOMOD installer

+Realistic Hair

+Better Vanilla Hair by kebrus v02b


+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture - MALE

+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture - FEMALE

+ApachiiSkyHair natural Retexture - NATURAL

+ApachiiSkyHair - Male Hair33 Fix

+ApachiiSkyHair - Male v1.1

+ApachiiSkyHair - Female v1.3


+-- Ethereal Elven Overhaul - HighResTexture

+-- Ethereal Elven Overhaul

+-- Dragon Combat Overhaul - Dragonborn

+Vampire Lord Armoured - Light Face Patch

+Vampire Lord Armoured 3-1

+Skyrim Immersive Creatures

+Grimoas Vampire Lord Vanilla Armour

+Fraost Atronach HD

+Deadly Dragons package v6-3-5

+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack - Dawnguard

+Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak

+Automatic Variants - Wolverines Variants Port

+Automatic Variants - StarX AV Package Draugr

+Automatic Variants - StarX AV Package Trolls

+Automatic Variants - StarX AV Package Wolves

+Automatic Variants - StarX AV Package Falmer

+Automatic Variants - StarX AV Package Hagraven

+Automatic Variants - StarX AV Package Gaint

+Automatic Variants - StarX AV Package Sabrecat Snow

+Automatic Variants - Sounaipr AV Package

+Automatic Variants - Insanity Sorrow AV Package

+Automatic Variants - Grace Darklings AV Package

+Automatic Variants - Bellyaches Animals AV Package

+Automatic Variants

+-- Glowing Ore Veins 300

+-- Beautiful Whiterun

+Ultimate HD Fire Effects - Candle Flame

+Ultimate HD Fire Effects - SMIM Patch

+Ultimate HD Fire Effects

+Ceramic Style Piosons

+Ceramic Style Potions

+Realistic Mushrooms - Dragonborn

+Realistic Mushrooms - Mushroom stew

+Realistic Mushrooms - Main

+Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE v2 NON GLOW

+TreesHD_Skyrim_variation_HIGH_NEW - Dark Pine Forest Bark 03


+Skyrim Redesigned


+Tobes Highres Textures 1_2 - SMIM Patch

+Tobes Highres Textures 1_2

+Hectrol CAVES DELUXE HighRes Retex 4K

+The Beauty of Skyrim - Caves and Mines

+Super Realistic Ore Textures

+Animated Dwemer Lift Load Doors for Dragonborn DLC

+Ruins_Clutter_Improved_v2-5 NMM Installation

+Langleys Wood Metal and Stone Workshop + 1.4a Update

+Re-Defined Dungeons

+RSE High v1_4


+Windmills Resized

+Whitrun Trellis Texture 1024 v_1_1

+Visible Windows High v1_2

+Vibrant Auroras 1_2

+Ultimate HD Torch

+The Paarthurnax Dilemma

+The 418th Step 1_2 - Snow Version

+Sweet Mother HD

+Soul Gems Differ - BAIN Wizard

+Snow and Rocks Textures HD - Caves only

+Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version

+Skyrim Improved Puddles 1024 BAIN

+Skyrim Coin Replacer

+Shooting Stars v1_041

+Septim HD 1 point 0

+Realistic Tundra Moss for AOF Yellow

+Realistic Force

+Realistic Paper DARK

+Realistic Instruments Pack

+Real Ice ALL-IN-ONE Installer by morpheas768

+Real Effect Candle

+Rainbows v1_041

+Quality SnowFlakes_Alternative V2

+PondFish Retexture

+Point The Way

+Pilgrims Delight - Zul Do Dov

+HD Keys With Normal Maps

+Not Really HD Display Case

+New Thinner Torch

+Mystery Modders-Shrines-HD

+Moss Rocks 1_31

+More Village Animals Ivarstead Extended

+More Village Animals Rorikstead Extended

+More Village Animals

+26 moon size tweeks

+Minty Lightning During Thunderstorms - CoT Patch

+Lightning during Thunder Storms

+Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT V3.1 Level 8 Preset

+Lanterns of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard

+Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - MCM Special Edition

+Jeclredured Spell Tomes

+Intricate Spider Webs

+Improved Weapon Impact Effects

+Hybrids Hires Plant and Herb Retexture v4

+HQ Skyrim Map

+HQ milky way galaxy v2

+HiRes Road Signs Version 3 Worn Text

+Higher-Poly Skyrim

+HQLODs - Meshes Hi-Res

+HD Ivy - Original Green

+HDSacks - 14TypeBBig

+HDSacks - 14TypeBSmall

+HD Ore And Ingots with manager

+HD Misc v1


+HD Baskets Fixed

+Gildergreen Regrown

+Footprints v0 99 - Ash Supplemental


+Finer Dust

+Enhanced Night Skyrim v04 Medium Stars

+Enhanced Blood Textures - Dragonborn Dawnguard

+Enhanced Blood Textures

+Hd Enhanced Terrain and Map snow 2048X2048 vERSION

+Dragon Glyphs HD - Smooth

+Distant Detail Hearthfire Edition

+Detailed Chests - Washedout Dirty

+Distant Decal Fix 1_2

+Destructible bottles v1 5 Extended

+Designs of The Nords - Banners

+DSI High v1_6_1

+Tenets Restored 1_3 - Performance Edition

+Clams Drop Pearls

+Chimneys For Skyrim RW

+BFS Effects 3 6 - Dragonborn Dawnguard

+BFS Effects 3 6 - Loose

+Bumpy Inn and Shop Signs v3 RAR

+Bring Out Your Dead

+Book Covers Skyrim

+Bloody Dragon Bones 2k

+Blaze Of Eventide v1 3 Less Glow Patch

+Blaze Of Eventide

+Better Shadowmarks


+AOF Farmhouses 1_2

+AOF Detailed Mountains 2_1

+AIMP - Antz in my Pantz

+101BUGs V4_1 HighResolution

+Realistic Lighting Overhaul

+Climates Of Tamriel - Sounds

+Climates Of Tamriel - Dragonborn Patch

+Climates Of Tamriel - Dawnguard Patch

+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel-V3

+W.A.T.E.R Dragonborn

+W.A.T.E.R. - Water And Terrain Enhancement Redux


+Skyrim Flora Overhaul v179e

+Serious HD Retexture

+Skyrim Realistic Overhaul

+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Towns

+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Misc

+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Landscape

+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures - Dungeons

+SMIM v1-43

+Better Dynamic Snow 2-20

+No stretching Full

+Categorized Favorites Menu Oni Edition Version 1_8b_Widescreen Version

+Smaller Cursor


+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Dawnguard - Werewolf Interface Patch

+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Dawnguard Retexture

+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Main

+RaceMenu - Disable Facegen Cache

+RaceMenu v1-5-0

+Main Menu Spinning Skyrim Emblem Average Speed

+Lore-Based Loading Screens 1_0

+Lockpicking Interface Retex - Without Wings

+Immersive HUD

+HQ3DMap - Normals Ultra

+HQ3DMap - Meshes Hi-Res

+Face to face conversation

+Even Better Quest Objectives - The Paarthurnax Dilemma Patch

+Even Better Quest Objectives - Skyrim Redone Patch

+Even Better Quest Objectives - Kryptolyr Non-Essential Children Patch

+Even Better Quest Objectives - Alternate Start - Live Another Life

+Even Better Quest Objectives - Dawnguard

+Even Better Quest Objectives - Hearthfires

+Even Better Quest Objectives - Main


+Disease Descriptions for the Immersive Adventurer

+CategorizedFavoritesMenu v0_1_18

+Block Steal

+BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions

+Better MessageBox Controls v1_2

+Better Dialogue Controls v1_2

+AutoPV - Auto changes view

+Atlas Map Markers

+Ancient Knowlege LoadScreens v15

+A Quality World Map Installer

+3D Load Screens

+Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge

+Skyrim -Elys- AltF4

+Realistic Crime Radius for the mod manager


+Multiple Lycanthropy Regift v1

+Fuz Ro Doh - Silent Voice

+Female Vampires Have Fangs

+Fast travel fimescale fix

+Enhanced Projectile Soul Trap

+Dead Body Collision Fix - With Improved Fireball Spell

+Brawl Bugs - Compatibility Edition

+Argonian Decapitation Fix

+Appropriately Attired Jarls

+Ancient Nord Armor Fix

+Unofficial High Resolution Patch

+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch

+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

+Unofficial Skyrim Patch

+HRDLC3 Optimized

+HRDLC2 Optimized

+HRDLC1 Optimized

+Dragonborn Optimized

+Hearthfire Optimized

+Dawnguard Optimized

+Vanilla Optimized

+Skyrim Script Extender




I have also re-installed my GPU driver (314.22) and done a full cleanup of my system though Tune-up utils. Gonna run a checkdisk and defrag before i start playing again.

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