Issues with STEP 2.2.2 and 2.2.2a

[Siwel187]

Hey everyone, i've been following STEP for the last week and following it to the letter.

 

I've added a few of the mods that i feel are essential to the end of the modding process provided by STEP and i have ran into some errors.

 

I use Mod Organizer for all my modding.

 

This is my mod list: From the top is the highest priority down to the bottom with the lowest.

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

+aMidianBorn Hide of the Savior

+aMidianBorn Scaled Armor

+aMidianBorn Textures For Immersive Armors and Lore-Friendly Armor Pack

+Detailed Rugs

+T3nd0s Skyrim Redone Update

+T3nd0s Skyrim Redone

+Balbor and Steelsouls SkyRe ReProccer Project

+ReProccer - Automated SkyRe patch generator

+T3nd0s Skyrim Redone Uncapper INI

+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper

+bugfix FXdustDropRandomSCRIPT

+Project ENB WATER patch

+Deadly Dragons

+Elaborate Textiles - NPC Clothing Retexture Miners

+Elaborate Textiles - NPC Clothing Retexture Yarls

+Elaborate Textiles - NPC Clothing Retexture

+Improved NPC Clothing - High Res Expansion

+Improved NPC Clothing - High Res

+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles Faces

+Better males - Beautiful nudes and faces - New hairstyles

+Wet and Cold

+Calientes Female Body Mod Big Bottom Edition -CBBE-

+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod DragonDawn

-The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod

+Winter Is Coming - Cloaks Cloaks of Sky

+Winter Is Coming - Cloaks

-Dragon Combat Overhaul Dragonborn

-Dragon Combat Overhaul

+Cloaks of Skyrim Dawnguard

+Cloaks of Skyrim

+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel - Weather - Lighting Dawnguard

+Project Reality - Climates Of Tamriel - Weather - Lighting

+Dense Grass 100 Density

+Skyrim Flora Overhaul hi res pines

+Skyrim Flora Overhaul

+Lanterns for Guards - Wearable Lanterns Add-On

+Lanterns for Caravans - Wearable Lanterns Add-On

+Wearable Lanterns

+Skyrim Coin Replacer

+Realistic Ragdolls and Force

+Realistic Crime Radius

+The Paarthurnax Dilemma

+More Village Animals Ivarstead

+More Village Animals Rorikstead

+More Village Animals

+More Salt Please Dragonborn

+More Salt Please

+Lock Overhaul

+Lantern Caretakers

+Guard Dialogue Overhaul Skyre Compat

+Guard Dialogue Overhaul

+Gildergreen Regrown

+Dynamic Fires

+Thieves Guild Requirements - No Auto Quest Start Brynjolf

+dark brotherhood forever moved to misc

+Convenient Horses Alt Skins

+Convenient Horses

+ClamsDropPearls

+Candle Lanterns of the North - Wearable Lanterns Add-On

+Bring Out Your Dead

+Auto Unequip Ammo

+Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement

+Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge

+Thundering shouts

+Smooth blade draw and Sheathe

+SILENT Skyrim - Quieter Interface - No More UI Cartoon Noises

-Roosters At Dawn

+Ultra Realistic Crossbow Shoot Sounds

+Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds

+Improved Combat Sounds

+Immersive Skyrim Thunder V6

+Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul

+Clanking Armor

+Better Weapon Swing Sounds

+Better Horse Pain Sounds

+FSS - Better Bards

+Better Animal Footsteps

+Ambient Seagulls

+Activate Fail Noise Removal

+Sweet Mother - the Night Mother Improvement

+Soul Gems Differ - Full and Empty

+Realistic Paper

+Not Really HD Keys

+N-R HD Display Case

+New Thinner Torch

+Ultimate HD Torch Less Glow Cloth

+Ultimate HD Torch Hi Res Fire

-Ultimate HD Torch

+Lockpick Inventory Remodel

+Intricate Spider Webs

+HD Baskets Retex

+Psychosteves Golden Gods Shrines

-Destructible bottles Extended

+Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored

+Better Shadowmarks

+Better Bones

+The 418th Step

+Sharlikrans Compatibility Patches

+Ultimate HD Fire Effects SMIMM Compat

+Ultimate HD Fire Effects

+Project ENB Particle Patch

+Shooting Stars

+Running with your Bow Replacer

+No Spinning Death Animation Dragon Twitch Fix

+No Spinning Death Animation

+Lightning during Thunder Storms Climates of Tam Patch

-Lightning during Thunder Storms

+Improved Weapon Impact EFFECTS Correct Metal

+Get Snowy

+Finer Dust

-Enhanced Projectile Soul Trap

+Enhanced Blood Textures Screen Blood

+Enhanced Blood Textures MMM DwnDrg

+Enhanced Blood Textures Screen Blood Drag & Dawn

+Enhanced Blood Textures

+Enchantment Effect Replacer

+Deadly Spell Impacts

+Burn Freeze Shock Effects Dawnguard

+Burn Freeze Shock Effects

+Better Turn Animation only One pose Cross Fix

+Better Turn Animation only One pose

+Animated Weapon Enchants

+Shield_of_Ysgramor

+Not Really HD Mask of Clavicus Vile

+Nightingale Prime HD

+Jewels of the Nord - HD rings and necklaces

+Improved closefaced helmets Dawn No Cloth

+Improved closefaced helmets Dawn

+Improved closefaced helmets

+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards with Thinner Blades Dragonborn

+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards with Thinner Blades Dawnguard

+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards with Thinner Blades

+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project Dragonborn

+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project Dawnguard

+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project

+Elven Weapons for Silence

+Elemental Staffs Update

+Elemental Staffs v4kv

+Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows Dragonborn

+Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows Dawnguard

+Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows

+Dawnguard Crossbow Explosive Bolts Visualized HD Tex

+Dawnguard Crossbow Explosive Bolts Visualized

+Daedric Armor and weapon Improvement

+Immersive Weapons

+Immersive Armors Skyre Patch

+Immersive Armors

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence Volendrung

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence Silver Weapons

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence Mehrunes Razor

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence Mace of Molag

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence Iron Weapons

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence Steel Weapons

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence

+Accingite Vos - Shields HQ Retextures

+Weapon Retexture Project - WRP

+Better Circlets HQ V1o1

+XCE - Dawnguard

-HD Rabbits Plus

-Pond Fish Retexture

-new children

+Natural Eyes

+XCE - Xenius Character Enhancement

+Improved Foot Wraps for females

+Frost Atronach HD Retex

+Footprints Ash

+Footprints

+Female Vampires Have Fangs

-Coverkhajiits Male

+Coverkhajiits Female

+Brows

+NoMaaM Breathing Idles BBB

+Better Freckles

+Better Beast Races v2

+Skymo

+SkyMoMod

+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack

+Beards

+Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak

-AIMP - Antz in my Pantz - Interactive Edition -

+83Willows 101BugsHD Butterfly Dragonfly Luna-Moth Torchbug

+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One Climates of Tam

+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One

+Dragon Glyphs HD - Fixed

+Chimneys for Skyrim

+KenMOD - Time on loading screen

+Main Menu Spinning Skyrim Emblem

+Smaller Cursor

+Not Another Colored Map Icon Mod - NACMIM Patch

+Not Another Colored Map Icon Mod - NACMIM

+SkyUI

-Skill Interface Retexture Dawn Retexture

-Skill Interface Retexture

-Simple Crosshair

-RaceMenu

+A Quality World Map - With Roads

-A Quality World Map

-No Menu and Loading Smoke

-No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu

-Main Font Replacement

-Lore-Based Loading Screens

-Lockpicking interface retex

-Interface Hard Coded Key Tweaks

-Categorized Favorites Menu Oni Edition

-Categorized Favorites Menu

+Immersive HUD - iHUD Hotfix

+Immersive HUD - iHUD

+High Quality 3D Map

-Dungeon Quest Awareness

-Better MessageBox Controls

-Better Dialogue Controls

-Better Skill and Quest Books Names

-BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions

-Distant Decal Fix

-Acquisitive Soul Gems

+TPC (Texture Pack Combiner)

+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch

+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

-Unofficial High Resolution Patch

+Unofficial Skyrim Patch

-Nitpick

-Fuz Ro D-oh - Silent Voice

-Fast travel timescale fix

-Dead Body Collision Fire Spell Vers

-Consistent Older People

-Bowlegged jump animation Fix

-Yngol Barrow Button Fix

-Argonian Decapitation Fix

-Appropriately Attired Jarls

-Ancient Nord Armor 1st Person Fix

-Project ENB

-Alternate Start - Live Another Life

-Advanced Testinghall for Skyrim

 

 

 

The mods in bold, in some way, create CTD's or complete lock ups of my system when loaded. I've narrowed it down to the above section of mods by loading a new game each time and running the intro sequence and trying to complete the intro (Exit out of the cave). Generally a crash will happen upon entering Helgen Keep or a little bit on while inside the keep.

 

This is my load order (always Run BOSS when ever i add any mod regardless) and always run the reproccer too.

 

 

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Dawnguard.esm

HearthFires.esm

Dragonborn.esm

ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

SkyMoMod.esm

SPIKE.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Better Dynamic Snow.esp

BWS.esp

Clanking Armor.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

randomthunder.esp

Thundering Shouts.esp

Warmer Magic Lights v2.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp

Ars Metallica.esp

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp

Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

dbmisc.esp

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Climates of Tamriel - lvl-3.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

ShootingStars.esp

LF-Skymo-Dawn.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Footprints.esp

WetandCold.esp

SkyUI.esp

iHUD.esp

Cloaks.esp

Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

1nivWICCloaks.esp

1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

DragonbornArmorFix.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

imp_helm.esp

imp_helm_imp.esp

imp_helm_dawn.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

DeadlyDragons.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

dynamic fires.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Immersive Weapons.esp

More Salt Please.esp

dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp

SFO - Expanded Diversity.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

Soul Gems Differ - E.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-VanillaNights-Lvl-3.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

ClimatesOfTamriel-Interiors-Cold.esp

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Reduced.esp

BFSEffects.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts - Two Fire.esp

Realistic crime report radius.esp

The Dance of Death - Ultimate Edition.esp

SkyRe_Main.esp

SkyRe_Combat.esp

SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp

SkyRe_EncounterZones.esp

SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

SkyRe_hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

GDO_Plugin_SkyRe.esp

dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

Beards.esp

Brows.esp

SkyRe_Races.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

getSnowy.esp

WATER.esp

WATER Plants.esp

WATER DB.esp

WATER DB Waves.esp

ReProccerNONPLAYERfix.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

DenserGrass.esp

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp

MVABasic.esp

MVAIvarstead.esp

MVARorikstead.esp

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp

ReProccerDragonborn.esp

ReProccer.esp

 

 

 

What I'm hoping you guys might be able to do is provide me with some support in relation to the narrowing down of the mods that are causing the issue, so i can enjoy the other mods that i have had to deactivate.

 

I have spent a lot of time over the last week working my way through this process, so I'm hoping you guys can finish the job :D

 

Thanks.

[rootsrat]

I cannot look into this fully, as I'm at work, but - the mods you highlighted in bold are unlikely to cause conflicts - I use STEP and SkyRe and I play with most of the ones you've highlighted.

 

However, briefly looking at your load order, I can see that you have loads of ESPs loading after Reproccer.esp - this is not correct. As they are not recognised, you need to either manually move them up or create User Rules. Run BOSS_GUI.exe instead of BOSS.exe and select User Rules Management to set your own rules. Then save them and run BOSS.

 

Footprints - Ash.esp

dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

DenserGrass.esp

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp

MVABasic.esp

MVAIvarstead.esp

MVARorikstead.esp

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp

 

All these need to go up. Footprints-Ash can go below Footprints.esp, More Salt DB addon below original More Salt, I also have Lantern Caretakers and MVA, but I cannot remember now where I have placed them in my load order.

 

Then, as far as I remember ReProccerDragonborn.esp needs to go BELOW ReProccer.esp

 

Some more questions - do you run ReProcces via MO? Do you use Balbors SkyRe patch?

 

Oh, just noticed - Ars Metallica will 100% conflict with SkyRe! Also, have a look at this thread and this thread, for the latter start reading from the post I linked.

[MontyMM]

Trying to work out where problems might lie from looking at that long list of STEP and non-STEP mods is a bit of a tall order. Can you confirm that you can run OK using pure STEP only?

[Siwel187]

However briefly looking at your load order, I can see that you have loads of ESPs loading after Reproccer.esp - this is not correct. As they are not recognised, you need to either manually move them up or create User Rules. Run BOSS_GUI.exe instead of BOSS.exe and select User Rules Management to set your own rules. Then save them and run BOSS.

The last 2 files in my load order are Reproccer and Reprocer Dragonborn. I've now moved the Reproc DB to the bottom of the load order as advised.

 

Footprints - Ash.esp

dD-DG-DB-MonsterMod EBT Patch.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

DenserGrass.esp

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp

MVABasic.esp

MVAIvarstead.esp

MVARorikstead.esp

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp

 

All these need to go up. Footprints-Ash can go below Footprints.esp, More Salt DB addon below original More Salt, I also have Lantern Caretakers and MVA, but I cannot remember now where I have placed them in my load order.

As advised I've moved them.

 

Some more questions - do you run ReProcces via MO? Do you use Balbors SkyRe patch?

As a matter of priority, when ever i disable or enable, remove or install a mod I'll run BOSS (And make appropriate changes like the ones listed above), close MO, delete Reproccer.esp from the overwrite folder in MO's install directory, open MO, run ReProcces through the data section in MO, close MO and reopen it and activate Reproccer.

 

I also use Balbors Skyre Patch. Balbors is after Reproccer in MO's installed mods field.

 

Oh, just noticed - Ars Metallica will 100% conflict with SkyRe! Also, have a look at this thread and this thread, for the latter start reading from the post I linked.

Thanks for the link, reading through it now.

 

Also disabled Ars Metallica.

 

Appreciate the help

[Siwel187]

Trying to work out where problems might lie from looking at that long list of STEP and non-STEP mods is a bit of a tall order. Can you confirm that you can run OK using pure STEP only?

Heh your making me doubt my self now , but i'm pretty sure it was running fine prior to the addition of anything else.

[mishmash]

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp below the main lanterns esp and these below that is how I have them, sure I read it somewhere...

MVABasic.esp

MVAIvarstead.esp

MVARorikstead.esp

[rootsrat]

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp below the main lanterns esp and these below that is how I have them, sure I read it somewhere...

MVABasic.esp

MVAIvarstead.esp

MVARorikstead.esp

For more village animals I think the Basic one needs to go first, and Ivarstead and Rorikstead below it in any order, as both change different places and should not interfere with each other.

[Siwel187]

Well i just loaded Skyre main.esp in TES5 Edit and it looks like there is about 5-6 different mods altering a certain ID, so i moved the MVA .esp's and the manny lanterns to be like what you said.

 

Lets have a run through the intro sequence.

[Siwel187]

Still crashing lots, can't seem to complete the intro. Hmmm.

[Farlo]

Still crashing lots, can't seem to complete the intro. Hmmm.

 

Have you tried disabling/uninstalling non-STEP mods or even all mods to see if the crashes persist?

[Siwel187]

 

Still crashing lots can't seem to complete the intro. Hmmm.

Have you tried disabling/uninstalling non-STEP mods or even all mods to see if the crashes persist?

 

With STEP mods installed and only them activated, i crash.

 

Running it now with nothing installed.

[Farlo]

 

 

Still crashing lots can't seem to complete the intro. Hmmm.

Have you tried disabling/uninstalling non-STEP mods or even all mods to see if the crashes persist?

 

With STEP mods installed and only them activated, i crash.

 

Running it now with nothing installed.

 

The next step is to go down the list installing/enabling mods in chunks and trying to find the problem mod.  This needs to be the first thing on the Troubleshooting Guide :P

[Siwel187]

 

 

 

Still crashing lots can't seem to complete the intro. Hmmm.

Have you tried disabling/uninstalling non-STEP mods or even all mods to see if the crashes persist?

 

With STEP mods installed and only them activated, i crash.

 

Running it now with nothing installed.

 

The next step is to go down the list installing/enabling mods in chunks and trying to find the problem mod.  This needs to be the first thing on the Troubleshooting Guide :P

 

Yeah i'm going to go through the list a section at a time and enable them until it crashes.

[Siwel187]

Ok i had an infinite load loop after finishing the keep and trying to load into Tamriel.

 

This was after loading section 2.E.

 

Currently trying to figure out what it is.

[Siwel187]

Ok so disabling a Quality World Map and High Quality 3D map fixed my problem.

 

Also SkyUI is reported that the map version is wrong, it expects version 3.2 but its saying i have 3.3..... Caused by not another coloured map icon mod.

[Farlo]

Ok so disabling a Quality World Map and High Quality 3D map fixed my problem.

 

Also SkyUI is reported that the map version is wrong, it expects version 3.2 but its saying i have 3.3..... Caused by not another coloured map icon mod.

I would re-install the latest versions of both SkyUI and NACMIM, SkyUI is currently at v3.4 although NACMIM's patch is at v3.3 so you'll still get the error (with different numbers).

 

Is it crashing only when both of those mods are enabled or either one?  First thing to try is re-installing them per STEP's recommendations of course.