STEP:Core Proposal/K

The 418th Step

Votes

Template:No I've never really been convinced by the appearance that the text was carved into the stone. It looks like an obvious overlay, which breaks immersion rather than enhancing it. Like Lore-Based Loading Screens, I don't really feel this addition is worth the .esp slot. Kryptopyr (talk) 17:48, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 01:56, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (interesting but very small change, and requires esp slot; there are other immersion mods I think are more useful) Kelmych (talk) 19:38, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 11:28, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Better Bones

Votes

Template:No Bones look dirty, rough, and charred, which is appropriate in some cases but not all. Even old bones often have a smooth white appearance. Kryptopyr (talk) 17:51, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Not an actually improvement from my standpoint. Techangel85 (talk) 01:57, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 19:38, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No~z929669 Talk 11:28, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Better Shadowmarks

Votes

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 17:43, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 01:58, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:11, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes~z929669 Talk 11:28, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored

Votes

Template:No The style of this retexture looks out of place. Techangel85 (talk) 02:00, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (address only one "guild" in Skyrim, and change doesn't significantly improve immersion) Kelmych (talk) 19:40, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Designs of the Nords

Votes

Template:No I like these designs better than vanilla in most cases, but the mod probably strays too far from the vanilla style to be appropriate for Core STEP. Kryptopyr (talk) 17:55, June 10, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No I want to keep it for the pack, but I agree that the style is just over the line to be included in Core. Techangel85 (talk) 02:04, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kelmych (talk) 20:08, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Destructible Bottles

Votes

Template:No Having bottles break when struck is both much more realistic and a good stress reliever. Very buggy. Known to sometimes stop the Unrelenting Force shout from working, can cause bounties to raise inadvertently in certain places, and apparently causes save game bloat. Needs to be remade to be in STEP. WilliamImm (talk) 06:20, June 6, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Techangel85 (talk) 21:12, June 7, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Thecompiler (talk) 01:24, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No (expansion vs. fix for vanilla) Kelmych (talk) 20:09, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Detailed Rugs

Votes

Template:Yes Direct improvement of vanilla textures in most cases. Techangel85 (talk) 21:16, June 7, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 08:12, June 9, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:12, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Enhanced Dragon Bones

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:55, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 22:03, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

HD Baskets

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:56, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:12, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:16, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

HD Linens

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:57, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:13, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:16, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

HD Ore & Ingots

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:57, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:10, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

HD Sacks

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 10:58, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:13, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I don't feel that STEP necessarily needs to change it's recommendation, but I do think that Type A is closer to vanilla for the big sack, while Type B is closer for the small sack. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:18, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

HQ Skyrim Map

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:01, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:21, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Intricate Spider Webs

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:03, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:22, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:21, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

New Thinner Torch

Votes

Template:Yes I consider this to be a fix. Techangel85 (talk) 11:04, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:19, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:22, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Not Really HD-Display Case

Votes

Template:Yes HQ improvement. Wood is a bit darker than vanilla. Looks a bit out of place; however, so does vanilla IMO. Techangel85 (talk) 11:06, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:25, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:12, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Not Really HD-Keys

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement (I could take this one or leave it) Techangel85 (talk) 11:08, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:25, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (small improvement) Kelmych (talk) 20:11, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Pilgrim's Delight

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvementTechangel85 (talk) 11:09, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Isn't the Legacy version more lore-friendly than the dragon runes? The inscriptions would have been intended for the Nords, not for the dragons, and while the Graybeards can read the dragon script, I'm not sure most pilgrims would be able to. (I prefer the Legacy version, but either one is an improvement) Kryptopyr (talk) 14:29, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:13, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Agree to use 'legacy' version. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Radiant & Unique Potions & Poisons

Votes

Template:Yes Most are HQ replacements. Some are too "vibrant" for vanilla IMO. (I could go either way on this one) Techangel85 (talk) 11:24, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (easily one of my favorite Skyrim mods with a large set of HD replacements) Kelmych (talk) 14:18, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Many of these look out of place compared to other vanilla items. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:34, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes We need some sort of visual identification for the items, right? But, conflicts with anything that modifies potions or booze in any way. Wish Bash had more patching functionality... (I love the idea, but I'm not sure about the implemtation) WilliamImm (talk) 21:22, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No We need to use Silly Level of Detail-Potions & Poisons 'ceramic' for STEP. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Realistic Instruments

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement. Not sure I would consider this vanilla-friendly. It definitely changes the appearance of the instruments. Techangel85 (talk) 11:25, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:18, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Kryptopyr (talk) 22:06, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No I think that this is a realistic rendition, but it may be better for a Pack for that reason. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Realistic Paper

Votes

Template:Yes Techangel85 (talk) 11:25, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes I prefer Main over Dark, but either one is a vanilla-friendly texture improvement. Kryptopyr (talk) 14:37, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:13, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Main version is more like vanilla ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Septim HD

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:26, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:38, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:15, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No The originals are much better and representative of low-tech minting taht would have been prevalent in Skyrim. Also, vanilla looks more worn, shich is better, IMO ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Shrines HD

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement. Changes coloring of two shrines (not a big deal for me, Tech) Techangel85 (talk) 11:28, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:39, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (I still prefer Psychosteve's version but this might be a little closer to vanilla, although it does change some shrine colors) Kelmych (talk) 20:17, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Too different from Vanilla. I also really hate the blue water in Stendarr (what exactly is this material??) ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Silly Level of Detail-Potions & Poisons

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:28, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:43, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (good for those bottles not addressed by RUPP) Kelmych (talk) 20:19, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Definitely prefer 'ceramic' version over Radiant & Unique Potions & Poisons. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Silly Level of Detail-Wine Cellar

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:29, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:43, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (only 2 of the textures are HD; the remaining ones are somewhat better than vanilla. Except for the 2 HD ones I prefer the ones in RUPP (similar to the choice made for TPC)) Kelmych (talk) 19:45, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Skyrim Redesigned

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement of many items in the game Techangel85 (talk) 11:30, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 20:12, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Only if using the current STEP BCF. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Soul Gems Differ

Votes

Template:No I don't believe this to be a vanilla oversight Techangel85 (talk) 11:31, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes the gems should be visually distinctive and they aren't sufficiently so in vanilla Kelmych (talk) 14:16, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:No Most of the selections would be a departure from vanilla, and preferences may vary wildly (from colorful Morrowind-style to only subtle differences in color) so I think this one is best suited to packs. Kryptopyr (talk) 22:11, June 15, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes The vanilla-friendly versions are true to vanilla and also allow distinctions among the types -- and a correction to a vanilla oversight, IMO. Also, there is already a precedent for differing SGs in TES games. ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Super Realistic Ore

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:31, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kelmych (talk) 14:17, June 13, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:46, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)

Sweet Mother

Votes

Template:Yes HQ vanilla-friendly improvement Techangel85 (talk) 11:32, June 11, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes Kryptopyr (talk) 14:48, June 16, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes (I still prefer 83Willows version but this is closer to vanilla) Kelmych (talk) 19:42, June 22, 2013 (MDT)

Template:Yes ~z929669 Talk 12:13, June 24, 2013 (MDT)