User:Hishutup/OblivionGuideFAQ

Welcome to the FAQs for the Complete Oblivion Modding guide

This is where I am going to place common questions

What about lore and the mod content?

This is mostly going to be lore friendly but not 100% because every mod author and/or guide creator has there interpretation of how Elder Scrolls should be played. You won't see anything that would completely break immersion. If you happen to come across something then post in the forum where is came from. Don't report mods that are not part of the core/extended. You have an option not to install       and      .

Where do the links go?

A majority of the links to the modding pages are directed to the Skyrim Nexus site. The reason for many different sites is because Oblivion is pretty old in terms of modding. Nexus might of removed something because they had updated their permissions policy *cough* AAOVTR *cough*. Also, some things like BCF-Files are done by Hishutup and Red to help with some of the installations and are provided via Copy.com.

Is this modular?

It's intended to be. I am slowly finding a good way to present a modular set up to users. Too many options and a user may give up. Too few and users will abandon this guide. I will hopefully get something right.

What is "FIX LATER"?

Those are markers for Red and me. I can do a simple search and find areas to fix. Ignore it and the couple of incomplete sentences that follow it.

Why can't I use Mod Organizer?

It's because of many reasons. First, being in version 1.2.9 there is memory leak when using some programs but the after running the programs more than once the length of time gets annoying. The problem doesn't exist in a normal install. Second, MO doesn't have support for OMOD or wizard.txt which is critical with Oblivion.

If you want me to use MO instead then go bug Tannin for OMOD and Wizard.txt compatibility. Meaning ask politely.

Is BOSS really required because I like LOOT?

Well... Try it and see if things work correctly. Loot doesn't carry all the changes over from BOSS because its a different method. LOOT is not content aware so it will tend to group common mods together. All I know is that FCOM Convergence is really picky with load order and even with V1.0 there was a recommendation to use BOSS.

That and I don't trust LOOT still.

How do I use BCF-Files?

Where instructed, download the BCF file from the Copy.com link provided.

Go to <Steam>\SteamApps\common\Oblivion Mods\Bash Installers\Bain Converters

Drop the BCF file to Bain Converters

Install the related mod as described

My game crashes after loading a save or upon death.

This is a Vanilla Oblivion issue and therefor present in any modded setup. Loading a different save directly from ingame tends to lead to unexpected CTD's, sometimes also after death of the player's character. It's a good habit to load a save by restarting the game or from the main-menu. Upon death you want to consider to restart Oblivion.

What modding sites are good to explore?

The Assimilation Lab

Nexus

TES Alliance

I don't understand. How do I FCOM?

FCOM Guide that is updated

Trouble-shooting

If you don't want to look through then use [(ctrl) + f]

Wrye Bash Issues

Something about load/Install order master if using Anneal (all)

You've gotten a Phyton error that looks like something below.

Traceback (most recent call last):
File "bash\basher.pyo", line 9585, in Execute
File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 9933, in anneal
File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 4073, in removeMods
File "bash\bosh.pyo", line 4041, in saveLoadOrder
bash.bolt.BoltError: Cannot load plugins before masters.

This is, because you've installed a group of mods with esp's and then tried to anneal (all) before getting the load order right in Bash (Mod tab). Change to Mod tab, run BOSS and you're good to anneal (all).

Red backgrounds in Mods tab

Its an old form of Archive Invalidation to re-date the bsa

Crash on startup or load

Crash on startup

Are you missing a master?

Look at the mods tab in Wrye Bash and look for the red box but if the red box is empty or had a dot that is not an issue.

Bad:

Crash on startup when the load bar is loaded a small amount

If it crash a like one tick (5%) you're most likely missing something from the UI section.

Crash when loading a save

Did you remove any mods?

If so look up the mods you removed for special uninstall instructions. I highly recommend not uninstalling anything but if you have to then generally go into an interior cell. Save uninstall the mod and do a clean save.

Clean save instrutions: "FIX LATER"