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Mods and Savegames

As previously stated, in same cases it is better to attempt to "clean" a savegame once a mod has been uninstalled. Although the previous steps will sometimes work, there are certain mods, such as Warzones or SkyTEST, that modify spawns, and as such, a more thorough cleaning must be attempted. These modified actors can cause CTDs and freezes if they remain in the world space after the mod has been uninstalled. A modified cleaning procedure is required because these actors will not despawn and be replaced with uninstalling the mod and performing the basic cleaning steps stated above. These advanced cleaning steps will force exterior and interior cells to reset, despawning and respawning almost all actors in the game, among other things. For a more complete description of what a cell reset will do, visit this UESP wiki page.

To make sure almost all cells reset, its is necessary to wait for 31 days. Some cells will never reset, as they are flagged as "Never Resets" by Bethesda. These mostly include player homes and other important locations. See here for the complete list.

WARNING: Forcing cell resets will clear almost all containers and respawn the objects contain therin. Therefore do not store any objects that you may wish to keep in these containers. Instead, place these objects with a cell that is flagged "Never Resets". A good place is a chest or sack in a player owned home.

Note: These steps can also be applied when installing mods that modify many cells and actors. In most cases, these mods will install correctly and modify all relevant actors. However, in some cases, not all actors will be properly modified when installing the mod. These steps will force these actors to respawn with the correct modifications.

Download and install the No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu mod from Skyrim Nexus.
Deactivate or uninstall any mods that require you to eat, sleep, drink, stay warm, etc, to survive, such as Total Realism - basic Needs. If you do not disable these, you will die instantly after following these steps.
Uninstall the mod you wish to clean Skyrim for, such as SkyTEST.
Load your savegame. Ignore the notice that the savegame is missing content.
Travel to another world space that IS NOT classed as the Skyrim world space.

The best place to travel to is the Skyrim Testing Hall, a cell that is totally divorced from the Skyrim world space. It was created for QA testing by Bethesda developers. To travel to this Hall, type "coc qasmoke" in the command console (without quotes). Note that should you wish to exit from this testing hall, you will need to travel out using the console command "coc <cellname>". The <cellname> must be replaced with the name of the cell you would wish to travel to. Before traveling to the Testing Hall, it is a good idea to know the cell name of where you would wish to return to. To discover the cell name of this place, be present at that location and type "help <location> 0" (without quotes) in the command console. The <location> must be replaced with name of the location. I.e. "help breezehome 0" will tell you that the correct code is WhiterunBreezehome or that Sovngarde can be reached with Sovngarde01.

Once in the Testing Hall, open the command console and type "pcb" (without quotes).
Next, in the command console, type "tfc" (without quotes). This will enable free camera mode, and will help reduce the waiting time required for 31 days to pass.
Exit the command console, and press "T" on your keyboard to enable the waiting menu. The change in appearance is due to the No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu mod you installed.
Move the slider all the way to the right until 31 days appears.
Press "Enter" on your keyboard. You will need to wait for 2-3 minutes if you toggled free camera mode with the "tfc" command, or 12 minutes if you did not.
Make a new save.
Exit Skyrim.
Play Skyrim and load your save that is in the Testing Hall.
Open the command console and type "pcb" again (without quotes).
Travel to your preferred destination using the command console "coc <cellname>, as discussed in step 5.
Play! (Thanks to apoJake, on the WATER forum, for the basic steps, and MontyMM for adding them to the Wiki).

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 ==Mods and Savegames==
-As previously stated, in same cases it is better to attempt to "clean" a savegame once a mod has been uninstalled. Although the previous steps will sometimes work, there are certain mods, such as Warzones or SkyTEST, that modify spawns, and as such, a more thorough cleaning must be attempted. These modified actors can cause CTDs and freezes if they remain in the world space after the mod has been unsitalled. A modified cleaning procedure is required because these actors will not despawn and be replaced with uninstalling the mod and performing the basic cleaning steps stated above. These advanced cleaning steps will force exterior and interior cells to reset, despawning and respawning almost all actors in the game, among other things. For a more complete description of what a cell reset will do, visit [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Respawning this UESP wiki page].
+As previously stated, in same cases it is better to attempt to "clean" a savegame once a mod has been uninstalled. Although the previous steps will sometimes work, there are certain mods, such as Warzones or SkyTEST, that modify spawns, and as such, a more thorough cleaning must be attempted. These modified actors can cause CTDs and freezes if they remain in the world space after the mod has been uninstalled. A modified cleaning procedure is required because these actors will not despawn and be replaced with uninstalling the mod and performing the basic cleaning steps stated above. These advanced cleaning steps will force exterior and interior cells to reset, despawning and respawning almost all actors in the game, among other things. For a more complete description of what a cell reset will do, visit [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Respawning this UESP wiki page].
 To make sure almost all cells reset, its is necessary to wait for 31 days. Some cells will never reset, as they are flagged as "Never Resets" by Bethesda. These mostly include player homes and other important locations. See [http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Category:Skyrim-Places-Safe here] for the complete list.