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Optimized Texture Pack BSA's

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I downloaded the optimized texture packs and M-O asked if I wanted to extract the BSA's when I was installing. I wasn't sure so I picked no. A few steps later, just under "The Dovahkiin Comes", I see a critical warning regarding saying YES when M-O prompts to extract the BSA. So ... do I need to go back and re-install those optimized vanilla, dawngaurd, hearthfire, dragonborn and optimized high-res packs 1, 2 and 3 allowing M-O to extract those BSA's and should I then make sure they are managed under the archives tab rather than the Plug-ins tab in the right pane of M-O? I think sometimes I am very impatient but I must have the patience of a saint. It took fifty plus hours for me to download those optimized textures. I hope someone else out there having difficulties can now say ..."whew ... at least I don't have that poor bastards internet provider" and feel a little bit better. Which ties in to my next question. It has now been a week since I played Skyrim. How often should I play a little to test functionality and should I avoid or feel free to complete a quest or make a game save before proceeding with the rest of the install. Or a little more install and a little more testing/playing. What is the recommendation ? I really appreciate the people who take time to answer noob type questions for a game this old ....thank you thank you thank you.

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What version of MO are you using?  I don't think that it asks about extracting BSAs when installing mods anymore.

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I am using M-O 1.3.7 which I just updated within the last two weeks. It claims to be up to date. Nexus says it is the latest version. What sounds funny now is that I have been using M-O for a while now and this is the first time it has ever shown me that option. I must have installed a thousand mods with this program and never been asked if I wanted M-O to extract the BSA. When I put these optimized texture packs in M-O says they are redundant. I have never seen that in M-O either, but I realize some configuration changes were made as per the install instructions. Anyway...should I re-install all of those optimized textures and say yes this time when M-O asks about extracting the BSA's ? and about the archive or plug-in tab please.? Am also concerned about the number of conflicts showing under the data tab, right pane show conflicts only is showing ESM's and BSA's....I have never had that happen before. Also conflicts in meshes, scripts and textures. Lots of conflicts in scripts at this point. Will all of these be worked out later in the install ??

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I must have messed up now. I went back to re-install and started with the vanilla optimized. I chose yes to extract the BSA and clicked remember this choice. My archive tab in the right pane now has a vanilla optimized textures in the list but the checkbox beneath it says dawngaurd textures BSA. But the dawngaurd, hearthfires, dragonborn and all three high res packs did not show up under archives in the right pane like vanilla did. So now I am wondering why. Now if I look in the left pane under optimized dawgaurd,hearthfire, dragonborn or any high res packs there are no BSA's. Returning to my download folder I extract the original optimized high res pack number 2 and I get this message from WinRAR diagnostic CRC failed in texture pack.... the file is corrupt. Number three extracted to a desktop folder and says it is a BSA. I don't know what to do. Considering deleting everything (again) Please help me so I won't have totally wasted the last eight days on this. After several tries and several failures due to corruption I have finally managed to extract all of the optimized BSA's into a folder on my desktop. Will I even need them...??? How do I get them where they need to be ???

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I have MO v1.3.7 installed as well.  Many versions ago the ability to extract BSAs during installation of a mod was removed.  Now the only way I know of doing this within MO is by viewing the "Archives" tab in the right pane and right-clicking an installed mod's BSA in the list and then selecting the "Extract..." option.  It sounds to me like the update process of MO did not complete properly and that your installation of MO is possibly corrupted.  I'm wondering if MO had not been upgraded properly, mainly because I don't think you should be getting the option to extract BSAs during mod installation.  It may be easy to fix though - download the file "Mod Organizer v1_3_7-1334-1-3-7.7z" from the MO Nexus page.  Then extract the files.  Then go into the ModOrganizer folder that was extracted, highlight all the files, and then copy them over your installation of MO.  When asked to overwrite, overwrite all.  Your mod installations should be preserved - do not worry about that.  Try this and see if it fixes things - you should not be automatically asked if you want to extract a BSA in a mod when you install the mod.  If it is still asking you that, then you do not have 1.3.7 properly installed...

 

A normal properly installed STEP mod configuration will have a number of conflicting files, but whether or not you have the correct files overwriting other files will depend on if you followed the guide properly.

 

Also, you must make sure that mods are enabled (the checkboxes are checked) in the left pane in order to see their BSA contents appear in the right pane (when viewing the "Archives" tab).

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Actually, you can turn that BSA extraction feature back on; however, this is not recommended unless you're trying to circumvent the plugin limit.

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OK, yes, now that you mention it TechAngel85... I did find that feature under the Settings>Plugins>BSA Extractor.  I didn't know this was a feature.  Unless john7 intentionally went in and enabled the feature, it shouldn't be enabled for him though - right?  Considering I've been upgrading MO for a while now (as opposed to doing a clean installation), I don't know if they decided at a point to have the BSA Extractor enabled by default again, but maybe they did.

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I think there is a main setting that asks if you want to be prompted for BSA extraction, and you can turn it off. We don't recommend extracting any longer as a general rule (to be broken for technical reasons by the 'enlightened' few).

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in the Skyrim Revisited: Legendary Edition instructions, just after papyrus compiler fix for 64 bit systems is the "Configure Mod Organizer" section. It says "Select "BSA Extractor" in the left pane.

In the right pane, double click the value to the right of "enabled" and select "true. I was just doing as instructed. All of my current questions are regarding that specific set of instructions. I am more interested in whether or not I need to re-install all of those optimized texture packs and make sure all the BSA's are listed under the archive tab in the right pane of M-O. The Vanilla textures was the only one that came out with a BSA and it says it is Dawngaurd.BSA so as you can imagine I am quite lost now. Can someone help me get past this part of the install ? I am seriously wanting to play some Skyrim.

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I am sorry if I posted in the wrong section....I am somewhat new to this. I was on the skyrim revisited legendary edition page and up at the top left it says FORUMS so I clicked on it and figured that was where I should ask for help. I still do not know how to be sure I got the optimized vanilla, dawngaurd, hearthfires, dragonborn and high res 1, 2, and 3 installed properly. The optimized vanilla is the only one that contains anything labeled BSA and confusingly it says dawngaurd BSA instead of vanilla BSA as I would have expected. Shouldn't all seven of these files have BSA's or since I am probably more lost than I know, shouldn't they all BE BSA's??? and am I correct in thinking all seven should show up under the archives tab in the right pane? If anyone can just get me through this section of the install I really really thank you.

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In a STEP install you would be correct; however, Neo may be doing something different with the SR install.

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@john7

 

I won't offer any specific advice as to what you need do with Skyrim Revisited, @Neovalen and those that actually have this guide installed can do that, what I will offer is some general comments to ease your mind.

 

  1. BSAs being extracted or not is a preference thing and whether they are or not, your game won't be irrevocably broken
  2. Conflicts shown in MO likewise are not a sign of a broken installation. 'Conflicts' is just the term used to show which mod is providing the assets for the game to use
  3. With large mod installs such as this, it is probably best not to progress in playing too far before the entire selection is installed. Feel free to create another partial profile and play that if you must get your Skyrim 'fix'
  4. With a complex tool such as MO it might be a good idea to watch the tutorial videos and/or read the wiki to familiarise yourself with it
  5. Lastly, don't stress too much about asking for help or where you post it, we're pretty easy going here (well, most of us are!)

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