Draagushnahk Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 Essentially I seem to have some mod or other on the list that is replacing your gorgeous choice of combat shotgun texture with this....monstrosity. Anybody know what may be causing this/how I might fix it? Modlist/loadorder below. 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Lonewolf Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 That shotgun is from weapon mod kits if i remember correctly.
Draagushnahk Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 Don't suppose you'd know a way to deactivate it and allow millennials textures to shine?
Lonewolf Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 (edited) Open FO3Edit and make a patch beetween the two mods, forwarding the "Model" records from the millennia plugin. Although, if you are following the Clear & Present Danger guide, you should look the section about how to make a Bashed Patch with Wrye Flash, there the process to make a patch is automated. Anyway, i remember that shotgun being from Weapon Mod Kits, but i do not remember being it the terrible shotgun... EDIT: In fact is the AA-12 Combat Shotgun, according to the Weapon Mod Kits nexus page. Edited April 7, 2015 by Lonewolf
Draagushnahk Posted April 7, 2015 Author Posted April 7, 2015 hmm, I did do the bashed patch as described... doesn't seem to have worked though :/ and it isn't the 'terrible shotgun', as in the unique weapon, I was using terrible as an adjective :) and aa-12 wise, that's what I thought when I went rooting around in the mod files, but ingame it seems to be all combat shotguns with that skin... I'm assuming if I just remove the meshes and textures of the aa-12 from the WMK files something horrible will happen and it won't simply default to vanilla or milennials textures?
Kelmych Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 There are several possibilities depending on whether you are more interested in better looking weapons or ones with more flexibility from Weapon Mod Kits. For Fallout NV Millenia made weapon replacers that support mod kits, but the ports he did to Fallout 3 don't include these. If you want all of the Millenia weapon replacers to use the great Millenia textures but without WMK compatibility use Millenia's weapons for FWE . If you want to to have Millenia's textures on some of the Millenia's replacers and keep WMK capability for the other ones you will have to build your own patch; you can copy portions of the records from the mod I mentioned to do this if you want. There is one weapon in the guide using Millenia textures, Millenia Assaultrifle Replacers RH WMK Patch, that supports both Ironsights and WMK. It uses meshes and textures from a Fallout NV Millenia mod.
Kelmych Posted April 7, 2015 Posted April 7, 2015 hmm, I did do the bashed patch as described... doesn't seem to have worked though :/ and it isn't the 'terrible shotgun', as in the unique weapon, I was using terrible as an adjective :) and aa-12 wise, that's what I thought when I went rooting around in the mod files, but ingame it seems to be all combat shotguns with that skin... I'm assuming if I just remove the meshes and textures of the aa-12 from the WMK files something horrible will happen and it won't simply default to vanilla or milennials textures?In order to change a mesh used with an item you need to change a MODL record in the plugin that assigns the mesh. The mod I mentioned does this for multiple weapons including the Combat Shotgun and the Terrible Shotgun unique variant. There is currently no way to have Millenias shotgun textures with a shotgun that supports mod kits. Even the Fallout NV version isn't compatible with mod kits (WMX).
Draagushnahk Posted April 8, 2015 Author Posted April 8, 2015 ah, fair enough. Thing is, I've already downloaded Millenia's weapons for FWE as instructed in the guide, but it hasn't replaced the textures and functionality of WMK...not sure why. so seeing as that mod didn't work (as far as I can tell), any ideas on what might?
Kelmych Posted April 8, 2015 Posted April 8, 2015 If that mod is loaded late enough in the load order, and has the right bash tags if you use a bashed patch, it should do the proper replacement. Did you try loading the mod after the bashed patch?
Draagushnahk Posted April 9, 2015 Author Posted April 9, 2015 which mod, the fwe milennial patch? I cant seem to locate the esp, do you know what it is called?
Kelmych Posted April 9, 2015 Posted April 9, 2015 Load the plugin from the Millenia's weapons for FWE after the bashed patch. You can get the plugin name by looking at the filetree tab when you double click the mod in the left pane of MO.
Draagushnahk Posted April 9, 2015 Author Posted April 9, 2015 It worked :) thanks, though since I started this thread I have moved on to the pancor jackhammer :D
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