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The Choice is Yours is ruining my Skyrim experience.


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How can I go about safely removing this? I can't really see why anyone would want such a mod, as the vanilla game allows you to track the quest you wish to track anyway, and I feel like I will just miss out on some of the smaller quests that lead you to new, radiant locations. With this mod, I now have to manage the smaller quests by memory, rather than by simply looking at a tidy log. Not good. 

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 I can't really see why anyone would want such a mod

The mod got more than 7K endorsements on Nexus. So apparantly a lot of people want such a mod :lol:

Especially people who played through the game several times and don't want their quest log cluttered with quests they're not going to do anyway. Even if you untrack quests they still clutter the journal. And you can't delete quets unless you use another mod. Skyrim's quest log is just horrible imo.

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Go indoors, save. Uninstall the mod. Load the game and wait 24rs, re-save. That should be the safest way to uninstall the mod.

 

My issue is it is causing a problem with the step extended patch, and the game immediately CTDs without it, and LooT gives an error. Would your method allow for a safe uninstall of the mod via MO? Or am I going to have to manually edit the STEP Extended patch myself? 

 

Your help is much appreciated. 

The mod got more than 7K endorsements on Nexus. So apparantly a lot of people want such a mod :lol:

Especially people who played through the game several times and don't want their quest log cluttered with quests they're not going to do anyway. Even if you untrack quests they still clutter the journal. And you can't delete quets unless you use another mod. Skyrim's quest log is just horrible imo.

If you are RPing and wish to do your own thing and know the route you are going to take, then that's fine, but as a completionist, I wish to at least have the option of doing a myriad of quests and not have to remeber the names of locations across the map every time I talk to an innkeeper. I love that you get quests from just having conversations, and navigating through a couple quests I won't do is nothing compared to missing out on quests I would like to do because a mod deemed the process of obtaining them unnecessary.  

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You'll have to edit the STEP Patch to still use the Patch. Specifically this esp is causing the CTD: BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp. That ESP was merged into the Patch so it will need to be removed from the Patch. You'll also have to reinstall Better Quest Objectives to not be reliant on The Choice Is Yours.

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You'll have to edit the STEP Patch to still use the Patch. Specifically this esp is causing the CTD: BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp. That ESP was merged into the Patch so it will need to be removed from the Patch. You'll also have to reinstall Better Quest Objectives to not be reliant on The Choice Is Yours.

Fantastic. So just removing or hiding that file in the file tree and the reinstall of better quest objectives will have my quests back to the vanilla acquiring style? I love everything about STEP, and having this small tweak will make my experience about as perfect as I could ask.  

Fantastic. So just removing or hiding that file in the file tree and the reinstall of better quest objectives will have my quests back to the vanilla acquiring style? I love everything about STEP, and having this small tweak will make my experience about as perfect as I could ask.  

Alright, I am not sure how to remove the ESP, and I am also assuming I will need to make a new bashed patch, and the dual sheath redux patch as well after making these changes. Correct?

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To remove the merged ESP, you'll have to use TES5Edit and remove the ESPs references from the Extended Patch.

Damn. I have no idea how to go about doing that. Looks like I might be going back to the Realvision mod set :( 

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It's not hard. If I have some time later I can probably do it for you but it probably won't be today.

Well that would be fantastic. I am usually relatively technically adept (I work in IT), but I know how fickle skyrim can be, so I am definitely trepidatious when making changes of this nature. 

 

Basically, I'm a *****. 

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I'm planning on updating Even Better Quest Objectives anyway so that it doesn't have patches for any of kryptopyr's mods anymore (including The Choice is Yours). Mainly because she merged my changes to the quest objectives, removing the need for patches in question.

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I am still clueless on how to go about removing the esp refrences from the STEp Extended Patch. After playing up to level 30 a couple times I found I was missing out on a lot of cool stuff, and I just can't, in good conscience, suggest this to a friend and tell him, "Well, if you know where a lot of the stuff is, then you'll be fine" when he hasn't played the game that much. If I was a big roleplayer, and only wanted to hit a low level and keep my character very tight along my RP rules, then I can understand this mod, or even some people's need for it. As it stands however, I would really like to not use, and more importantly, be able to learn a little bit about Tes5Edit, so I can help friends of mine who may be overwhelmed when modding or using step. 

 

When I use Tes5Edit and select only the STEP Extended patch, the only thing I know to do from there is to select the Patch, once I do that, I see the expanded patch and see a list, and the only thing I can glean from that is to look under the quests teb, and from there I don't see  anything resembling the merged ESP for better quest objectives and the choice is yours. I do not know how to find the "merged ESP" that is causing CTD on gamestart. I have been told it is very simple, so I would be extremely grateful if someone could offer any advice on how I can go about removing this single mod out of over 200 that is making me not really want to load up my game anymore, or share this great modset with friends. :( 

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If you are RPing and wish to do your own thing and know the route you are going to take, then that's fine, but as a completionist, I wish to at least have the option of doing a myriad of quests and not have to remeber the names of locations across the map every time I talk to an innkeeper. I love that you get quests from just having conversations, and navigating through a couple quests I won't do is nothing compared to missing out on quests I would like to do because a mod deemed the process of obtaining them unnecessary.  

If I may, instead of removing this mod (which is quite a gem, IMHO), you should check out the mod SkyComplete.  It is designed especially for "completionists".  Both mods work well together and The Choice is Yours mod is actually very useful if you are a completionist as it allows you to defer quests to make sure you get them done in the preferred order.

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I am still clueless on how to go about removing the esp refrences from the STEp Extended Patch. After playing up to level 30 a couple times I found I was missing out on a lot of cool stuff, and I just can't, in good conscience, suggest this to a friend and tell him, "Well, if you know where a lot of the stuff is, then you'll be fine" when he hasn't played the game that much. If I was a big roleplayer, and only wanted to hit a low level and keep my character very tight along my RP rules, then I can understand this mod, or even some people's need for it. As it stands however, I would really like to not use, and more importantly, be able to learn a little bit about Tes5Edit, so I can help friends of mine who may be overwhelmed when modding or using step. 

 

When I use Tes5Edit and select only the STEP Extended patch, the only thing I know to do from there is to select the Patch, once I do that, I see the expanded patch and see a list, and the only thing I can glean from that is to look under the quests teb, and from there I don't see  anything resembling the merged ESP for better quest objectives and the choice is yours. I do not know how to find the "merged ESP" that is causing CTD on gamestart. I have been told it is very simple, so I would be extremely grateful if someone could offer any advice on how I can go about removing this single mod out of over 200 that is making me not really want to load up my game anymore, or share this great modset with friends. :( 

It's a bit of a complicated process for anyone that hasn't done much with TES5Edit.

 

https://ck.uesp.net/wiki/TES5Edit_Documentation

https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/38413/?

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While I've since "modified" my modded game, and am happy with the results, I am really appreciative of the resources here, I learned a lot. I've been modding for so long, and every time I go through setting up a new playthough and modset, I am always blown away by how little I actually know about the inner workings.

 

I wish I could see myself from three years ago talking about mods, I thought I was a genius for using NMM when all of my friends were still using the steamworkshop. Boy oh boy was I wrong.  

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