Can't See Underwater

[monkeycid]

Hi everyone,

 

I'm a relatively new STEP user and genuinely happy with the improvements it has made to Skyrim and modding in general. Everything seems to be working as intended except for one , maybe two things. Firstly, I cannot see anything underwater and the screen turns a murky brown colour whenever I dive in. Secondly, the blood splatter from Enhanced Blood Textures doesn't seem to apply to female player characters. It works when I'm playing as a male character but never as a female. I don't know if this is intended or not. I have followed the 2.2.9 STEP guide from top to bottom and installed every mod that isn't flagged as being included in the STEP patches.

 

https://wiki.step-project.com/User:Monkeycid/SystemSpecs

[spoiler=Load Order]

Skyrim.esm

Update.esm

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

Dawnguard.esm

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

HearthFires.esm

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

Dragonborn.esm

Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm

HighResTexturePack01.esp

HighResTexturePack02.esp

HighResTexturePack03.esp

Cutting Room Floor.esp

Dual Wield Parrying_SKSE.esp

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

Traps Make Noise.esp

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp

Dead Body Collision.esp

ClamsDropPearls.esp

ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp

Moss Rocks.esp

Elemental Staves.esp

Footprints.esp

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp

Convenient Horses.esp

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

Brows.esp

Lock Overhaul.esp

Nausicaa's Tweaker.esp

BFSEffects.esp

NoxUE2.00.esp

ORM-Arvak.esp

RaceMenuPlugin.esp

RaceMenu.esp

SMDropLitTorch.esp

Footprints - Ash.esp

Moss Rocks_DB.esp

ShootingStars.esp

SkyUI.esp

TradeBarter.esp

Dual Sheath Redux.esp

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

Soul Gems Differ - NS.esp

Rainbows.esp

Beards.esp

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

Weapons & Armor_TrueOrcish&DaedricWeapons.esp

Clothing & Clutter Fixes.esp

SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp

Distant DetailHF.esp

SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp

Bring Out Your Dead.esp

BetterQuestObjectives.esp

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp

BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp

Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp

BirdsHFclean.esp

TheChoiceIsYours.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Waterfall Effects.esp

Point The Way.esp

HearthfireChimneys.esp

RealisticWaterTwo.esp

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

ADS.esp

WetandCold.esp

AOS.esp

IHSS.esp

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp

dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp

WetandCold - Ashes.esp

When Vampires Attack.esp

aMidianBorn_ContentAddon.esp

Complete Crafting Overhaul_Remade.esp

RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

Run For Your Lives.esp

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Whiterun Trundra Creeks.esp

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

PilgrimsDelight.esp

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp

STEP Extended Patch.esp

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

DragonShoutVoice.esp

NonEssentialChildren.esp

Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp

BlockSparkles.esp

SFO - Dragonborn.esp

Paralyze.esp

Gildergreen Regrown.esp

SDO Full-LOD - Giant Campfires.esp

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp

TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp

iHUD.esp

mintylightningmod.esp

randomthunder.esp

Bashed Patch, 0.esp

Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp

 

Edit: I've installed an ENB preset (Seasons of Skyrim) to see if did anything to solve the issue but nothing changed albeit an FPS drop of 10 or so. Here is a link to a screenshot of my character part submerged.

Edited October 13, 2014 by monkeycid

[monkeycid]

I've found a quick fix but I'm not sure if it's recommended since some mods use it (such as Dynavision) but setting bDoDepthOfField to 0 within Skyrimprefs.ini seemed to make the water crystal clear.

[hishutup]

oh... I think I know whats up...

btw enb water isnt supposed to be black

 

 

[GLOBAL]

UsePatchSpeedhackWithoutGraphics=false

UseDefferedRendering=true

ForceFakeVideocard=false

IgnoreCreationKit=true

 

[PERFORMANCE]

SpeedHack=true

EnableOcclusionCulling=true

Edited October 13, 2014 by hishutup

[monkeycid]

I've done some messing around and noticed the problem isn't strictly when underwater but where the water line is on the screen. I could be stood in water upto my waist and still see the murky brown screen if I adjust the camera. See here and here.

[hishutup]

try turning off the underwater thing in enb and see if it removes the black...

 

 

EDIT: I knew about the underwater fix but I thought it was obsolete 

Edited October 13, 2014 by hishutup

[TechAngel85]

For some reason some users have issue with the DoF underwater. That is why turning it off in the INI worked. The Green Water Fix should work for you (even though your water isn't green). That mod removes the DoF underwater.

[monkeycid]

I tried removing ENB altogether but to no avail. I also tried a vanilla Skyrim without any mods and still the same thing happened. It must be either an error within one of the INI files or a video card error. I have read somewhere about the field of vision also having an affect. I will try the Green Water Fix for now since that seems to keep the blur when underwater judging by the mods' screenshots.

[monkeycid]

Just to recap. I've reinstalled a fresh copy of Skyrim because I really wanted to be sure what was causing this problem to occur. This seems to happen only with the dedicated GTX 880M video card. The onboard Intel HD 4600 works fine underwater but the nVidia card is struggling. Oddly enough, I had a GTX 650M on an old laptop which had no problems underwater so it seems funny to me that a newer card would struggle. It's either an error within the video driver or the card itself. I am opting for the driver since this laptop is only a month old!

[DoubleYou]

Or it could be your video card graphics settings.

[hishutup]

Like double you said...

- after writing the bit at the bottom I remember Optimus has issues with some games...

 

Maybe it's an issue with Optimus or w/e they call it now

https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/33227/?

I don't know if this is supposed to call enb or if enb is supposed to call this...

For testing remove the enb full and stick this in there

Then play around with enb but also report back...

 

Remove all special graphics profiles for skyrim

Reinstall distribution packages via the exe the folders ( I believe there are 2-3)

Reinstall graphics drovers

[monkeycid]

I have tried without ENB entirely with a fresh vanilla Skyrim and default video card settings and this still persists. Reading the description of the mod you linked to, isn't that a fix for ENB users whose graphics cards aren't being correctly identified? I have also created a bug report over at the official nVidia support website. It's a weird bug since I can position the water level right at the top of the screen and see underwater perfectly but the problem occurs when I am fully submerged or position the camera completely underwater. Is this a field of view or sky reflection related issue?

[TechAngel85]

Did the water fix mod help?

[hishutup]

I believe it didn't work because of these two messages...

 

I will try the Green Water Fix for now since that seems to keep the blur when underwater judging by the mods' screenshots.

then

 

Just to recap. I've reinstalled a fresh copy of Skyrim because I really wanted to be sure what was causing this problem to occur. This seems to happen only with the dedicated GTX 880M video card.

Edited October 14, 2014 by hishutup

[TechAngel85]

I never assume. Since the mokeycid didn't report back it's possible he got distracted and simply forgot or a million other things. I want the report "straight from the monkey's mouth"...hahaha!

[monkeycid]

The patch does indeed work but I am trying my best to find a fix that doesn't involve using a mod since I don't believe this issue should exist in the first place. But it does seem like a driver issue considering posts of others with different nVidia cards reporting the same kind of thing. Hopefully the bug report I posted over at nVidia is looked at but I can use either the Green Water Fix or change the DoV INI setting for now. How many times do players swim underwater anyway?

[TechAngel85]

The patch does indeed work but I am trying my best to find a fix that doesn't involve using a mod since I don't believe this issue should exist in the first place. But it does seem like a driver issue considering posts of others with different nVidia cards reporting the same kind of thing. Hopefully the bug report I posted over at nVidia is looked at but I can use either the Green Water Fix or change the DoV INI setting for now. How many times do players swim underwater anyway?

Use the Green Water Fix mod. Disabling it in the INI will disable all DoF and that isn't desirable.