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Hey, I'm pretty new to intense Skyrim modding and I just went through the entire STEP guide, choosing to use STEP Extended and STEP Immersive Survival Pack. I threw in some armor and weapon mods (Full list in below mod order, includes Immersive Armors but not Immersive Weapons) then RCRN, and called it good. The issue wasn't apparent at first, but soon I noticed some objects load with black textures, blue textures, and most recently being invisible completely. (Some NPCs were floating heads and hands) There appears to be *no specific items* affected by this issue, sometimes random world objects will have the problem, sometimes not. Sometimes my character's skin turns black, sometimes not. Relaunching the game will temporarily fix the issue, but once I've fast traveled a couple of times, it returns. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

 

I feel like it should be reiterated separately: There is no specific set of objects affected by my issue, and I've only seen it affect the same object repeatedly a couple of times.

 

System Specs:

i5 3570k

8gb DDR3 1600

Gigabyte GTX 660 2GB (OC model)

 

 

 

 

Skyrim.esm
CRC: C665FD56
Update.esm
CRC: E5B67BDA
Add: Delev, Relev
Warning: Contains 92 ITM records and 3 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
CRC: FB709557
Version: 2.0.4a
Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
Dawnguard.esm
CRC: BD72CCF3
Add: Delev, Relev
Warning: Contains 619 ITM records, 82 UDR records and 57 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
CRC: 4FC896F3
Version: 2.0.4
Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
HearthFires.esm
CRC: AF82CE6A
Warning: Contains 184 ITM records, 11 UDR records and 5 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
CRC: 77F63482
Version: 2.0.4
Add: Names
Dragonborn.esm
CRC: A9F83BFF
Warning: Contains 61 ITM records, 8 UDR records and 1 deleted navmeshes. Clean with TES5Edit.
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
CRC: 8B14CDED
Version: 2.0.4a
Add: Delev
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
CRC: FE33A011
ApachiiHair.esm
CRC: 783F7167
Version: 1.4
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
CRC: AC4A653A
HighResTexturePack01.esp
CRC: D596F02A
HighResTexturePack02.esp
CRC: D596F02A
HighResTexturePack03.esp
CRC: D596F02A
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
CRC: 3BE2E4A3
Version: 1.1.7
SkyUI.esp
CRC: 9330CAF7
Version: 4.1
Moss Rocks.esp
CRC: 40AB761A
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
CRC: C4ED7762
TradeBarter.esp
CRC: AC24F58B
Add: Delev, Relev
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
CRC: 4B399546
TKRecoil.esp
CRC: 7D30007
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
CRC: D284ACF
HarvestOverhaul.esp
CRC: 8FBB155E
Version: 2.8.2
rcrnShaders.esp
CRC: B012D842
Note: Make sure you have bEnableFileSelection=1 in SkyrimPrefs.ini under [Launcher].
Moss Rocks_DB.esp
CRC: 367B849A
SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp
CRC: 4CD19713
BFSEffects.esp
CRC: 543D56D4
Version: 3.6
CharGen ECE Morphs.esp
CRC: 99152715
CharGen Morphs.esp
CRC: 99152715
Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp
CRC: 3A253C5D
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
CRC: 66E9EC89
Convenient Horses.esp
CRC: A2C92D5C
Version: 14950
Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp
CRC: DE2E9C4C
Cleric Armours - Credo.esp
CRC: FAD79ACC
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - RCRN Legacy.esp
CRC: A07EDE37
Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.
Brows.esp
CRC: 767A76B7
Version: 30411
Lock Overhaul.esp
CRC: 3FB2EDFA
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
CRC: B473FA3
DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp
CRC: E9879B5E
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
CRC: 8A8A009F
Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.
HarvestingAnimation.esp
CRC: 32D7181B
Dual Sheath Redux.esp
CRC: 10FAFEDD
Note: Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+
ELFX - Exteriors.esp
CRC: 910AA0F5
ClamsDropPearls.esp
CRC: FC8EBCE9
EnhancedLightsandFX.esp
CRC: 8EF7DBEA
AOS.esp
CRC: D4F2924F
dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp
CRC: 7AFD4E3E
dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp
CRC: FE5C3763
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp
CRC: 455C0C6A
ELFX - Dawnguard.esp
CRC: E8C01B12
ELFX - Dragonborn.esp
CRC: 527D91F9
RCRNdgdb.esp
CRC: 8833FBEF
HitStop.esp
CRC: D4B0612C
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
CRC: AFACD2E9
Note: Do not clean. "Dirty" edits are intentional and required for the mod to function.
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
CRC: D5D8C715
Version: 5.0
Add: Delev, Names, Relev, Stats
ADS.esp
CRC: 73426A08
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
CRC: C730D9F6
Footprints.esp
CRC: BFAF15E8
Footprints - Ash.esp
CRC: D3E16A61
HelmetToggle2.02b.esp
CRC: 2ED2B609
Beards.esp
CRC: 85B4CEFA
Version: 28363
BWS.esp
CRC: D596F02A
Hothtrooper44_Armor_Ecksstra.esp
CRC: 9229A0B4
mintylightningmod.esp
CRC: 83F77041
ORM-Arvak.esp
CRC: EAE05BDD
IHSS.esp
CRC: 8E27DF44
moveitLWT.esp
CRC: 1CBC50DC
Lore Weapon Expansion.esp
CRC: A4DF64EA
Version: 1.3
Add: Delev, Relev
Lore Weapon Expansion - Goldbrand.esp
CRC: 64CF5E10
Version: 1.1
dynamic fires.esp
CRC: 1D4A64C7
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
CRC: C442A94F
Add: Delev
Distant Detail.esp
CRC: 91262597
Error: Use Distant DetailHF.esp
Birds.esp
CRC: 200672C3
Note: Incompatible with: Hearthfires.esm. Use either BirdsHF.esp or BirdsHFclean.esp.
Warning: Contains 376 ITM records and 2 UDR records. Clean with TES5Edit.
ShootingStars.esp
CRC: 5B89D5C9
Version: 1.041
RaceMenu.esp
CRC: 2765B7D0
Traps Are Dangerous.esp
CRC: A9EAFF5E
Rainbows.esp
CRC: 547F5D56
Version: 1.05
SMDropLitTorch.esp
CRC: 1D97B006
SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp
CRC: B4C880EE
Version: 3.0.esp
RealisticWaterTwo.esp
CRC: 3369B96E
Version: 1.11
RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp
CRC: B74B21DA
Add: Delev, Relev
Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp
CRC: DEBF1E1
RND_USKP-Patch.esp
CRC: FE81BA78
Add: Relev
randomthunder.esp
CRC: 1058BBB4
SoS - The Wilds.esp
CRC: C1743294
Version: 1.13
Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
Warning: Contains 8 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_HighRes.esp
CRC: 70139025
Version: 4.1
Add: Delev, Relev
SoS - Civilization.esp
CRC: 5EF1D362
Version: 1.02
Note: Do not use the Crash Fix ESP for this mod. It is flagged as a master and is only meant as a last resort for fixing crashes.
Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp
CRC: E9191AFB
Version: 1.0
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
CRC: 8BEF96D9
Version: 1.2.5
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
CRC: C71C862D
Thieves Guild Requirements.esp
CRC: 469AA2FC
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
CRC: EB7D5B73
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
CRC: BEB6BE7F
Version: 2.1
Note: If this is not newer than v1.3, update to the latest version.
DiversePriests.esp
CRC: 7C7C9CCD
Hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp
CRC: 2A9F7DED
Version: 7.1
Add: Delev, Relev
Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
CRC: C56B1AEE
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
CRC: 4B3CBB77
Oblivion Gates v3 without Markers - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
CRC: E688076D
RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp
CRC: D53F3ABC
RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp
CRC: 72A698CB
SFO - Dragonborn.esp
CRC: C9DB0844
Cloaks.esp
CRC: D8F94C02
Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
1nivWICCloaks.esp
CRC: 6B6B803A
Version: 2.3
Add: Relev
Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp
CRC: 1B674023
Version: 1.0
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp
CRC: 3BA25C1C
Version: 2.3
Add: Delev, Relev
RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
CRC: A554A56D
Travel Attire.esp
CRC: 43ABC547
TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp
CRC: AAEE23BF
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
CRC: 58BC5ABB
Point The Way.esp
CRC: F372CBC2
Version: 1.0.2
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
CRC: D0427B6
Version: 1.1
Note: Use only one SkyrimImprovedPuddles esp.
SoS - Civilization-PatchRCRN.esp
CRC: 97D2A345
NoxUE2.00.esp
CRC: D62F798B
Dead Body Collision.esp
CRC: B8B71CA1
SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp
CRC: 7938E7F0
RabbitsPlus.esp
CRC: 633F83B6
Chesko_Frostfall.esp
CRC: EF4AE200
DungeonQuestAwareness.esp
CRC: 3F758F77
TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp
CRC: 7F71EAD5
Warning: Contains 2 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp
CRC: E3E62E4
RND_AnimalLoot.esp
CRC: FE916A6E
Ars Metallica.esp
CRC: 861C1782
Version: 1.2.2
Dr_Bandolier.esp
CRC: E3FB152B
Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp
CRC: 80BFAE78
Version: 1.2.2
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
CRC: 56988D38
RiverwoodHuntingCabin.esp
CRC: 369C1E79
Warning: Contains 17 ITM records. Clean with TES5Edit.
HunterTraps.esp
CRC: E316419D
SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp
CRC: 92593BC1
SkyrimChimneysRW.esp
CRC: 4C99C854
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
CRC: 70A70428
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
CRC: 4EB77E00
BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp
CRC: ED4BB953
PilgrimsDelight.esp
CRC: 2C24D5A5
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
CRC: 9BA892A1
Version: 1.2.8
Elemental Staves.esp
CRC: CE72B915
STEP Extended Patch.esp
CRC: 1F62C6BB
AOS2_RCRN_AE_Patch.esp
CRC: 5E07543
Version: 2.1.5
Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp
CRC: EA5CBC81
WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp
CRC: F85CBEFA
BonemoldExpanded.esp
CRC: 65CBE514
SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp
CRC: 36966A9C
BetterQuestObjectives-AMBSkyforgePatch.esp
CRC: A9808D92
More Salt Please.esp
CRC: 96FB0A78
Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp
CRC: E763DA66
Version: 1.2.2
Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp
CRC: 517657E4
Version: 1.2.2
CommonClothes.esp
CRC: ACBB1F06
Version: 92
WetandCold.esp
CRC: 1EDF3DB6
Version: 1.41
SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp
CRC: FBFBE09C
DragonShoutVoice.esp
CRC: DB709B74
Disease Descriptions.esp
CRC: 99F5028F
DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
CRC: C75BF12
DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp
CRC: 3FAC69B1
Hunterborn.esp
CRC: 7BF2F25C
Run For Your Lives.esp
CRC: DEB84611
Version: 2.0.1
BlockSparkles.esp
CRC: 7EA628AA
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
CRC: 5111AD5F
Version: 1.2.6
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
CRC: 8BD6B852
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
CRC: 7A15383C
FNISspells.esp
CRC: 4F3339DE
Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp
CRC: 186159E9
Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp
CRC: FCB25332
Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp
CRC: C7B88751
RCRNvolumetric.esp
CRC: 1C611171
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
CRC: 7409094B
NonEssentialChildren.esp
CRC: BAE841DB
Add: Delev
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
CRC: EA004B82
SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp
CRC: FA28D596
SoS - The Wilds-PatchRCRN.esp
CRC: BBADFF44
Soul Gems Differ.esp
CRC: 4F02E2D7
Traps Make Noise.esp
CRC: 8777E2C7
Unique Uniques.esp
CRC: 3296C8B6
Version: 1.6
Add: Graphics
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
CRC: CC1A0B4E
Version: 1.0
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
CRC: 1D2561D2
Version: 1.08
When Vampires Attack.esp
CRC: 6DECABA4
Version: 2.0
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp
CRC: 910FBBF3
Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
CRC: BD9E96A1
iHUD.esp
CRC: 6633B25E
zzArmormashups.esp
CRC: 27E6D73D
Bashed Patch, 0.esp
CRC: CA946561
Version: 6/23/2014 8:25:00 PM
Dual Sheath Redux Patch.esp
CRC: 7FDD696
 

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I know this thread died long ago, but I figured I might as well post that I think I solved the mystery when sitting back down to play some Skyrim today.

Turns out I'm an idiot and improperly installed RCRN with MO, a mistake I rectified.

In the process, I undid STEP's setup of the enblocal.ini. Oops.

With both problems fixed, Skyrim has so far run like a dream with no problems thusfar.

However, I accidentally BOSS'd my "Improved Close-Faced Helmets_Legendary.esp" (from Weapons and Armor Fixes) out of load order and can't seem to figure out where it goes. STEP 2.2.8 (version I'm on, haven't updated yet) probably explains where to put it, but I can't figure it out after looking back through the instructions. I'm probably just blind.

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No, I was considering doing it once I started having problems, but was afraid it would exacerbate the current issues or cause new ones.

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You could then optimize your textures. We have a DDSopt guide on our wiki with a lot of bat files to make the process a lot less hard. Optimizing can help, but takes quite a bit of time.

 

But, first let's try something else. Your load order is disaster and I'm guessing you are using LOOT instead of BOSS? Go back to BOSS and if BOSS doesn't sort some of your mods, then we have directions for where to sort those on the guide or mod pages.

Also, saw this on the load order: Note: Incompatible with: Hearthfires.esm. Use either BirdsHF.esp or BirdsHFclean.esp.

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Okay, done. I ran boss and switched over to the Hearthfire compatible Birds and Flocks mod. Here's a copy of my BOSSlog.html:

https://puu.sh/9J2He/923f69d667.html

 

Edit: Just ran Skyrim, issue still persists.

 

Also thought it might be worth mentioning: I implemented the Skyrim memory patch I found here: 

 

 

Using the 768 and 512 .dll he provided.

I also made some adjustments to my Skyrim.ini when Frostfall was giving me trouble. I got an error something along the lines of "Your game's scripting system is running too slowly in order for Frostfall to run correctly." when field dressing animals and skinning their pelts. Also occasionally when I disposed of them. I referenced their troubleshooting guide here:

 

 

 

 

Heres my SKSE.ini:

 

 

[General]
ClearInvalidRegistrations=1
 
[Memory]
EnablePatch=1
Block1=768
Block2=512

 
Here's my Skyrim.ini:
 

[General]
sLanguage=ENGLISH
sIntroSequence=0
fFlickeringLightDistance=8192
uExterior Cell Buffer=36
 
[Display]
fSunShadowUpdateTime=0.25
fSunUpdateThreshold=1.5
fShadowLODMaxStartFade=1000.0
fSpecularLODMaxStartFade=2000.0
fLightLODMaxStartFade=3500.0
iShadowMapResolutionPrimary=2048
bAllowScreenshot=1
 
[Audio]
fMusicDuckingSeconds=6.0
fMusicUnDuckingSeconds=8.0
fMenuModeFadeOutTime=3.0
fMenuModeFadeInTime=1.0
 
[Grass]
iMaxGrassTypesPerTexure=7
bAllowCreateGrass=1
bAllowLoadGrass=0
iMinGrassSize=40
 
[GeneralWarnings]
SGeneralMasterMismatchWarning=One or more plugins could not find the correct versions of the master files they depend on. Errors may occur during load or game play. Check the "Warnings.txt" file for more information.
 
[Archive]
sResourceArchiveList=Skyrim - Misc.bsa, Skyrim - Shaders.bsa, Skyrim - Textures.bsa, Skyrim - Interface.bsa, Skyrim - Animations.bsa, Skyrim - Meshes.bsa, Skyrim - Sounds.bsa
sResourceArchiveList2=Skyrim - Voices.bsa, Skyrim - VoicesExtra.bsa
 
[Combat]
f1PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7
f3PArrowTiltUpAngle=0.7
f1PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7
f3PBoltTiltUpAngle=0.7
fMagnetismStrafeHeadingMult=0.0
fMagnetismLookingMult=0.0
 
[Actor]
fVisibleNavmeshMoveDist=12288.0000
 
[Papyrus] 
fUpdateBudgetMS=800.0
fExtraTaskletBudgetMS=800.0
fPostLoadUpdateTimeMS=500.0
iMinMemoryPageSize=256
iMaxMemoryPageSize=512 
iMaxAllocatedMemoryBytes=153600
bEnableLogging=0
bEnableTrace=0
bLoadDebugInformation=0
[Water]
bReflectLODObjects=1
bReflectLODLand=1
bReflectSky=1
bReflectLODTrees=1
 

 
Being new to this, I have no idea how these changes could possibly affect other portions of the game, so I thought I'd mention it.
Edited by Vanusk
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It only shows 26 mods. What happen to that monster of a list you had? You have to add BOSS GUI.exe as an executable to run it with MO from the dropdown. Otherwise you can't sort everything at once.

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  • SMIM-DungeonsCliffsIceSkirts.esp Active   Sort Anywhere
  • SkyFalls + SkyMills + DG + DB.esp Version 3.0.esp Active  Sort position is listed on the step guide or mod page
  • Lore Weapon Expansion - Relics of the Crusader.esp Version 1.0 Active  Put behind the other Lore Weapon Expansion plugin
  • Lore Weapon Expansion - Daedric Crescent.esp Version 1.0 Active  Same as last
  • Travel Attire.esp Active  Put behind an armor mod plugin
  • SMIM-ShackRoofFixes.esp Active  Sort anywhere
  • RND_AnimalLoot.esp Active  Put behind other RND plugins
  • SMIM-FarmhouseFlickeringFix.esp Active  Not needed
  • STEP Extended Patch.esp Active  Put right before the bashed patch
  • AOS2_RCRN_AE_Patch.esp Version 2.1.5 Active  Put behind the last RCRN plugins
  • Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp Active  STEP guide or mod page tells where to sort
  • SMIM-ShackRoofFixesDragonborn.esp Active  behind the other shack roof fix plugin 
  • CommonClothes.esp Version 92 Active  Put behind an armor plugin
  • SMIM-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active  After Ars Metallica - Dragonborn plugin
  • SMIM-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp Active  Put anywhere
  • zzArmormashups.esp Active  Put behind an armor plugin

That should help.

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Okay, I moved all of the mods as instructed, then went to Rebuild the bashed patch. However, this popped up when I did so:https://puu.sh/9J9jE/a7800c7dd6.pngAny idea what it means?

I can build the bashed patch with that plugin enabled. I would suggest restarting mo, rebooting Windows and/or reinstall mod. If that doesn't work do as EssArrBee said. Edited by dreadflopp
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I can build the bashed patch with that plugin enabled. I would suggest restarting mo, rebooting Windows and/or reinstall mod. If that doesn't work do as EssArrBee said.

See that's the thing, it was working fine until just now. Regardless, I'll do what you guys recommend. As far as problems, they're still occurring. Impending edit with more details, but ideas in the meantime would be appreciated. (I disabled Immersive Armors and rebuilt the patch to test in the meantime.)

 

Edit: I thought it might just be the Dawnstar White Hall (because when it broke, certain things in there kept breaking), but it's just as flakey with what things break and when.

Edited by Vanusk
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Black, purple, invisible etc. all means that you have a bad install of some textures and/or models somewhere. No amount of load ordering will fix this. 

If it is only weapons and armor then it is normally quite easy to isolate the mods responsible and then reinstall them. 

 

The reason for it is that sometimes then installation just fails for a single file and it will effectively be a 0kb file.. which obviously have no content. 

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It isn't only weapons and armor, it's been anything you can think of, from mounted heads on the wall to grass outside riverwood. It's especially confusing because the textures don't break every time.

 

Edit:

 

I can most easily reproduce the issue by visiting the White Hall in Dawnstar so here are some screenshots.

 

Everything's fine:

 

https://puu.sh/9JdD5/5954fafc02.png

 

Everything's definitely not fine:

 

https://puu.sh/9JdGG/77c91a84c0.png

 

Note: Rug, throne, chair left, Lydia's face

Edited by Vanusk
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If it is not persistent then it would mean a memory issue since if there is not enough memory to load in all the textures it will happen at random. But with your hardware that would just be weird.... Assuming you got Enboost etc. going. 

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