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Sudden CTD's on previously stableish load order

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Hi all.  Hoping someone can help as I'm a little lost.  I'm not completely new to Skyrim modding but I'm very much at the understanding a guide and following it than going off to far on my own thing.

 

I have a load order I based off the VEGA Core pack on the wiki (including all the patches etc).  I essentially started with this pack installing it exactly to the guide then created a new profile and started adding in my own mods a few at a time keeping away from some nice to add mods due to scripts or the sheer amount of compatability patches they need (like Wet & Cold or Duel sheath etc).

 

I've added mods as I've gone along but always created a save before adding anythign new so I had a point to go back to if it went wrong. I seem to have been fine since I've been careful about the mods I add and where they fall into my load order etc.  

 

However I recently added some more mods (nothing script heavy or that should really have caused a problem) but suddenly found Skyrim either CTDing or Stopping working.  I removed the mods (recreating my bashed patch, re-running the reproccer as advised int he VEGA guide etc) then went back to my pre-updating save however the game now seems to stop working within a minute of me getting into combat (seems to last longer when just walking around if I avoid fighting but even then after a while it'll stop responding).  

 

I've tried turning on Papyrus logging and looking in there but I'm not really sure what I'm looking at.  I've also gone back to an older save where i KNOW the game was working fine (I'd actually been doing a lot of combat after this point with no issues) and this also CTD's.  

 

If I had added a mod which caused issues I could certainkly understand but with it suddenly just stopping working on a previously fine load order and modlist I'm confused and don't know where to start.  

I can't figure out for the life of me how to add a spoiler window so don't want to list my load order since it'll hog the entire page  but have attached a zip containing my papyrus logs as well as my SKSE logs since this includes my load order.

 

Edited with load order thanks to Aiyen

 

 

Load order (0) Skyrim.esm

(1) Update.esm

(2) Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp

(3) Dawnguard.esm

(4) Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp

(5) HearthFires.esm

(6) Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp

(7) Dragonborn.esm

(8) Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp

(9) Falskaar.esm

(10) Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm

(11) ClimatesOfTamriel.esm

(12) moonpath.esm

(13) SPIKE.esm

(14) XFLMain.esm

(15) Wyrmstooth.esp

(16) Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp

(17) Chesko_Frostfall.esp

(18) Better Dynamic Snow.esp

(19) Morning Fogs.esp

(20) PNENB.esp

(21) SplashofRain.esp

(22) ExpandedSnowSystems-CoT.esp

(23) ADS.esp

(24) AOS.esp

(25) BWS.esp

(26) DragonShoutVoice.esp

(27) IHSS.esp

(28) Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp

(29) AOS_ICS Patch.esp

(30) Remove Interior Fog V2 - Full Version.esp

(31) mintylightningmod.esp

(32) MintyLightningMod_COT_Patch.esp

(33) StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp

(34) StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp

(35) StaticMeshImprovementMod-FurnitureChestSnowFix.esp

(36) TradeBarter.esp

(37) AMatterOfTime.esp

(38) Ars Metallica.esp

(39) Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp

(40) Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp

(41) Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp

(42) Auto Unequip Ammo.esp

(43) BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp

(44) Bring Out Your Dead.esp

(45) Chesko_WearableLantern.esp

(46) ClamsDropPearls.esp

(47) Dead Body Collision.esp

(48) DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp

(49) DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp

(50) High Level Enemies.esp

(51) High Level Enemies - Falskaar.esp

(52) High Level Enemies - Dawnguard.esp

(53) High Level Enemies - Dragonborn.esp

(54) HoldBorderBanners.esp

(55) Hunterborn.esp

(56) Hunterborn_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

(57) Hunterborn_Frostfall-Patch.esp

(58) Moss Rocks.esp

(59) ORM-Arvak.esp

(60) PilgrimsDelight.esp

(61) Point The Way.esp

(62) Populated Lands Roads Paths.esp

(63) Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

(64) Skyrim Immersive Creatures - DLC2.esp

(65) Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp

(66) SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp

(67) TouringCarriages.esp

(68) Traps Make Noise.esp

(69) Footprints.esp

(70) Footprints - Ash.esp

(71) NoxUE2.00.esp

(72) RaceMenu.esp

(73) RaceMenuPlugin.esp

(74) RaceMenuOverlays.esp

(75) UIExtensions.esp

(76) vAutosaveManager.esp

(77) SkyUI.esp

(78) iHUD.esp

(79) BosmerArmorMATY743.esp

(80) Cloaks.esp

(81) Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp

(82) 1nivWICCloaks.esp

(83) 1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp

(84) DragonbornArmorFix.esp

(85) Elemental Staves.esp

(86) forsworn-trouble.esp

(87) imp_helm.esp

(88) imp_helm_imp.esp

(89) imp_helm_dawn.esp

(90) imp_help_dbrn.esp

(91) imp_guard_helm.esp

(92) nordicrangerarmor.esp

(93) ScoutArmor.esp

(94) TavernClothes-MTM.esp

(95) Dr_Bandolier.esp

(96) Dr_BandolierDG.esp

(97) Immersive Weapons.esp

(98) Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp

(99) hothtrooper44_ArmorCompilation.esp

(100) Civil War Overhaul.esp

(101) AOS_CWO Patch.esp

(102) SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esp

(103) DeadlyDragons.esp

(104) SkyRe_Main.esp

(105) SkyRe_Main_Fix.esp

(106) SkyRe_Combat.esp

(107) SkyRe_CraftingFix.esp

(108) SkyRe_EnemyAI.esp

(109) SkyRe_EnemyScaling.esp

(110) SkyRe_EnemyScaling_Fix.esp

(111) SkyRe_StandingStones.esp

(112) SkyRe_StandingStones_Fix.esp

(113) SkyRe_Survivalism.esp

(114) ExplosiveBoltsVisualized-SkyRe.esp

(115) AOS_SkyRe Patch.esp

(116) AOS_SkyRe-AFTER Patch.esp

(117) SkyRe_SIC Crossbowfix.esp

(118) AdalMatar.esp

(119) DragonmournInn.esp

(120) Gildergreen Regrown.esp

(121) moonpath_questdata.esp

(122) OBIS.esp

(123) OBISDB.esp

(124) OBIS FALSKAAR PATCH.esp

(125) Run For Your Lives.esp

(126) When Vampires Attack.esp

(127) SkyHavenTempleEnhanced.esp

(128) TheDomain.esp

(129) TheFrontier.esp

(130) AchieveThat.esp

(131) Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp

(132) DiversePriests.esp

(133) DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp

(134) FalskaarDawnguard.esp

(135) FSS-No pause between lines.esp

(136) Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp

(137) WeaponsArmorFixes_GuardDialogueOverhaul_Patch.esp

(138) Rebirth Monster.esp

(139) SkyFalls Plus SkyMills - All DLC and Falskaar.esp

(140) SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators-Dawnguard.esp

(141) Convenient Horses.esp

(142) TorchRadius.esp

(143) TrueBondOfMatrimony.esp

(144) UnreadBooksGlow.esp

(145) Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp

(146) aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp

(147) WeaponsArmorFixes_ambSkyforge_Patch.esp

(148) Helgen Reborn.esp

(149) Populated Cities Towns Villages.esp

(150) EnhancedLightsandFX.esp

(151) ELFX - Exteriors.esp

(152) ELFX - Moonpath.esp

(153) ELFX - Dawnguard.esp

(154) ELFX - Dragonborn.esp

(155) ClimatesOfTamriel-Dawnguard-Patch.esp

(156) ClimatesOfTamriel-Dragonborn-Patch.esp

(157) AOS_CoT 3.1 compatibility patch.esp

(158) AOS_COT-DG Patch.esp

(159) ClimatesOfTamriel Falskaar.esp

(160) Supreme Storms - Cot Version.esp

(161) CoT-WeatherPatch.esp

(162) CoT-WeatherPatch_DB.esp

(163) CoT-WeatherPatch_Snow-10.esp

(164) CoT-WeatherPatch_SupStorms.esp

(165) CoT-WeatherPatch_ESS.esp

(166) RealisticNeedsandDiseases.esp

(167) RND_Dawnguard-Patch.esp

(168) RND_HearthFires-Patch.esp

(169) RND_Dragonborn-Patch.esp

(170) Hunterborn_RND-Patch.esp

(171) RND_USKP-Patch.esp

(172) KnapsackEnhanced.esp

(173) Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp

(174) Better Vampires.esp

(175) Predator Vision.esp

(176) ESFCompanions.esp

(177) WerewolfMastery.esp

(178) Lost Magic.esp

(179) DragonCombatOverhaulDragonborn.esp

(180) AOS_DCOd Patch.esp

(181) Locational Damage.esp

(182) Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp

(183) Soul Gems Differ - E.esp

(184) dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp

(185) Beards.esp

(186) Brows.esp

(187) TheEyesOfBeauty.esp

(188) The Eyes Of Beauty - Elves Edition.esp

(189) XFLConfig.esp

(190) XFLDialogue.esp

(191) XFLPanel.esp

(192) XFLPlugins.esp

(193) Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp

(194) SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp

(195) ESFAela.esp

(196) moveitLWT.esp

(197) NonEssentialChildren.esp

(198) dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp

(199) SkyRe_Races.esp

(200) SkyRe_Races_Fix.esp

(201) TTYM - Think to Yourself Messages.esp

(202) TTYM - Frostfall Module.esp

(203) DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp

(204) RealisticWaterTwo.esp

(205) RealisticWaterTwo - Legendary.esp

(206) RealisticWaterTwo - Wyrmstooth.esp

(207) RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Wyrmstooth.esp

(208) RealisticWaterTwo - Falskaar.esp

(209) RealisticWaterTwo - Waves - Falskaar.esp

(210) BarenziahQuestMarkers.esp

(211) AOS_ADS Patch.esp

(212) DF127RiversideShack.esp

(213) DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp

(214) Patch Nearox Overhaul - STEP Core.esp

(215) ElementalArrows.esp

(216) Bashed Patch, SKYRE.esp

(217) Pre ReProccer WA Fixes IW aMidianSS IA Patch.esp

(218) ReProccer.esp

(219) qotsafans Miscellaneous ReProccer + Destruction Tweak 50 Patch.esp

(220) qotsafans LeveledLists IW IA Patch.esp

(221) qotsafans Ars Metallica SMIM Patch.esp

(222) qotsafans BringOutYourDead Patch.esp

(223) qotsafans Books HF Patch.esp

(224) qotsafans Ingestibles Patch.esp

(225) AOS_CTD_Fix.esp 

logs.zip

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For spoiler tags just search BBcode spoiler on your search engine and you will get the info.

 

Really going to need info on what sort of mod you put in and then removed again as well, as well as the actual list.

 

A mod might not be script heavy, but ANY mod with scripts should not be removed again from an active mod list. It is just bound to cause issues.

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For spoiler tags just search BBcode spoiler on your search engine and you will get the info.

 

Really going to need info on what sort of mod you put in and then removed again as well, as well as the actual list.

 

A mod might not be script heavy, but ANY mod with scripts should not be removed again from an active mod list. It is just bound to cause issues.

Thanks for that i figured it was a BB code thing but couldn't see on the help page for the forum.  I've updated my original post with the loadorder I know was working fine.

 

The mods that were added are listed below (taken from a save made after they were added).  However I went back to a Save that was way back when it worked fine so these mods were not present in the save at all (using Mod Organiser so wouldn't have been present in the Skyrim data folder either).

 

high Hrothgar overhaul

Dawn of riften

Dawn of whiterun

dawn of Windhelm

Provincial courier service

Qaxes Winderhold rebuild

Dynamic auto sortint system

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Yeah. Disable all esp-using mods except the official DLCs. Start a new game, see whether the issue persists or not.

Then start adding your mods in small groups of max. 5 at a time and rerun a predefined testing course, where you now can reproduce a 100% crash.

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