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S.T.E.P. Core + More - getting CTD (All logs, load order, etc attached)

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I'm getting many CTD, though it's kind of random... they can happen when I'm saving, looting, pressing ESC to get to the options menu, etc..

 

If someone with a better eye for what might be causing the problem can have a look, it would be much appreciated.  loadorder.txt, Papyrus.0.log.txt, Skyrim.ini, and SkyrimPrefs.ini attached.

 

Thanks,

diznanl

 

Rig:

i5 3570K

HD Radeon 7950 (latest drivers)

8GB Ram

 

Using:

Mod Organizer 1.1

SKSE 1.6.16

BOSS for ordering

TES5Edit for cleaning & merged patch

Wrye Bash for bashed patch

 

Load Order:

# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.
Skyrim.esm
Update.esm
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp
Dawnguard.esm
Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp
HearthFires.esm
Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp
Dragonborn.esm
Unofficial Dragonborn Patch.esp
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm
Deus Mons.esm
DirectorsTools.esm
Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm
MTAutoStorage.esm
SPIKE.esm
XFLMain.esm
Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esp
HighResTexturePack01.esp
HighResTexturePack02.esp
HighResTexturePack03.esp
Brawl Bugs CE.esp
Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp
Weapons & Armor Fixes_Remade.esp
Rainbows.esp
ADS.esp
BWS.esp
DragonShoutVoice.esp
IHSS.esp
Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp
Cutting Room Floor.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp
StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp
TradeBarter.esp
83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp
Ars Metallica.esp
Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp
Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp
Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp
Auto Unequip Ammo.esp
BirdsHFclean.esp
Bring Out Your Dead.esp
Chesko_WearableLantern.esp
ClamsDropPearls.esp
fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp
manny Lantern Caretakers.esp
More Salt Please.esp
More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp
Moss Rocks.esp
ORM-Arvak.esp
PilgrimsDelight.esp
Point The Way.esp
RabbitsPlus.esp
Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp
Real Clouds.esp
ShootingStars.esp
Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp
SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp
-- Traps Make Noise.esp (NOT SELECTED -- MERGED in MERGED PATCH)
WetandCold.esp
WetandCold - Ashes.esp
Footprints.esp
Footprints - Ash.esp
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp
NoxUE2.00.esp
RaceMenu.esp
RaceMenuPlugin.esp
UIExtensions.esp
SkyUI.esp
iHUD.esp
IMAGINATOR - MCMenu.esp
Cloaks.esp
Cloaks - Dawnguard.esp
daedric_phelm.esp
Elemental Staves.esp
ExplosiveBoltsVisualized.esp
imp_helm.esp
imp_helm_imp.esp
imp_helm_dawn.esp
imp_help_dbrn.esp
imp_guard_helm.esp
Improved Closefaced Helmets_Legendary.esp
Space Wiking's Dwemer Exoskeleton.esp
Dr_Bandolier.esp
Dr_BandolierDG.esp
Lock Overhaul.esp
quest_andtherealmsofdaedra.esp
Deus Mons_WithNPCs.esp
flaho_shi_eagles_nest_ENG.esp
Forfeorannaheim.esp
Forgotten Windmill.esp
Gildergreen Regrown.esp
tos_granitehall.esp
aGreyLedgeManorLITE.esp
Here There Be Monsters.esp
Moria.esp
quest_nomercy.esp
quest_pitfighter.esp
quest_pitfighter_dlc01.esp
quest_sorcery.esp
Run For Your Lives.esp
When Vampires Attack.esp
quest_seaofghosts.esp
sjel blad castle.esp
stendarrsbeaconenhanced.esp
quest_thebiggertheyare.esp
The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp
SkyrimCoinReplacerRedux.esp
Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp
AchieveThat.esp
Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp
BetterQuestObjectives.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Dawnguard.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-Hearthfire.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-DBForevertoMisc.esp
Civil War Overhaul.esp
DirectorsTools_FogUnlocker.esp
Distant DetailHF.esp
DiversePriests.esp
DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp
dynamic fires.esp
FSS-No pause between lines.esp
Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp
Headtracking.esp
masser Size x0.5.esp
dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp
Convenient Horses.esp
TheChoiceIsYours.esp
TheChoiceIsYours_Dawnguard.esp
Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp
aMidianborn_Skyforge_Weapons.esp
Helgen Reborn.esp
tos_amber_guard.esp
-- tos_laintardale.esp (NOT SELECTED)
tos_laintardale_hf.esp
-- tos_oakwood.esp (NOT SELECTED)
tos_oakwood_hf.esp
Chesko_Step418_SN.esp
Oblivion Gates v3 - Skyrim + Dawnguard DLC.esp
BFT Ships and Carriages - HF.esp
SoS - The Dungeons.esp
SoS - The Wilds.esp
SoS - Civilization.esp
Soul Gems Differ - E.esp
dD-No Spinning Death Animation.esp
Beards.esp
Brows.esp
3DNPC.esp
HothFollower.esp
Inigo.esp
XFLConfig.esp
XFLDialogue.esp
XFLPanel.esp
XFLPlugins.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-XFLPatch.esp
HothFollower UFO Patch.esp
Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp
SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp
Dovabear.esp
EMCompViljaSkyrim.esp
HearthfireMoveKidsfix.esp
Follower Trap Safety.esp
-- moveitLWT.esp (NOT SELECTED -- MERGED IN MERGE PATCH)
NonEssentialChildren.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp
Alternate Start - Live Another Life.esp
BetterQuestObjectives-AlternateStartPatch.esp
Animated Weapon Enchants.esp
DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp
WATER.esp
WATER Plants.esp
WATER DG.esp
WATER DB Waves.esp
-- DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp (NOT SELECTED -- USING S.T.E.P. CORE PATCH)
STEP Core Patch.esp
STEP SoS Patch.esp
Merge Patch 01.26.2014.esp
Bashed Patch, 0.esp

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Just looking through your mod list, you have the Improved Closedfaced Helmets plugins, but you don't need those since you are using the merged Legendary Edition.

 

Remove:

  • imp_helm.esp
  • imp_helm_imp.esp
  • imp_helm_dawn.esp
  • imp_help_dbrn.esp
  • imp_guard_helm.esp

You have two Skyrim Project Optimization plugins. Use only the .esm and delete the other one.

 

Your Skyrim.ini and SkyrimPrefs.ini are complete crap. You have way to many entries that hurting your game. Mod Organizer has separate ones for every profile so find those in your MO directory and delete them. Then go into documents->my games->Skyrim and find your INIs and delete them. Then start up Skyrim again so the default ones can regenerate. Only use the STEP recommend INI edits.

 

Start with that stuff. If your saves say are missing data don't worry it is only because you removed redundant plugins.

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@EssArrBee

 

Thank you for the feedback. I'll remove the redundant plugins and start with fresh .ini files.

 

A number of the additional entries are from here:

https://itcprosolutions.com/skyrimguides/tweak_guide.htm#increasingperformance

 

Are any of the suggestions made on that page helpful? Especially in relation to edits suggested in the "Multiple CPU Core PC" section?

 

Thanks,

diznanl

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We've tested just about everything and can't find anything that helps. You are better served with the new memory patch Ssme and enboost. Those show real gains not placebo stuff like those ini tweaks.

 

 

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@EssArrBee

 

Thanks again! STEP Core Patch.esp is complaining about missing:

 

imp_helm_dawn.esp

imp_help_dbrn.esp

 

I believe I can remove these master file requirements with TES5Edit -- is this recommended or should I remove the Legendary plugin and go with the individual plugins?

 

Thanks,

diznanl

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Yeah use the individual plugins, I forgot that STEP Patches is still using the 2.2.7 stuff, but I'm already doing testing for the new update and it uses the legendary plugin. The next STEP release will have no dependencies for those mods.

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When I originally implemented STEP, I saved a copy of my vanilla skyrim directory. I restored to this, copied SKSE to the directory, created new skyrim.ini. and skyrimprefs.ini, applied STEP recommended edits those two files, and everything is working at this point. Have played 50+ minutes without a CTD.

 

@EssArrBee thank you!

 

I will update this thread should there be any other issues.

 

Thanks,

diznanl

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Ok!  I actually reverted a backed-up copy of my skyrim directory, followed S.T.E.P. ini instructions, disabled Skyrim Project Optimization.esp, and disabled the Improved Closedfaced Helmets - Legendary Edition.esp.

 

Everything ran very smoothly for about 30 minutes, then I got another CTD.

 

I've attached my Papyrus log, skyrim.ini, and skyrimprefs.ini.

 

It looks like the last entries in the Papyrus log are referring to Wet and Cold.  Could this be the cause of the CTDs?

 

Thanks,

diznanl

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The last log entry is 14 minutes after it opened so I'm guessing you have a different crash, to be honest papyrus is usually a mess and can't handle everything. There is a lot of missing files at the beginning of your logs, so I'm guessing that you have been installing and uninstalling mods along the way with your current saves. Skyrim is so fickle that it really causes issues when you do that.

 

One piece of advice that helped me was to get my mod list the way I want, then don't touch it for that character. You can just break to much stuff.

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Thanks, EssArrBee

 

I've just added ENBoost and SSME, as well as Skyrim Performance Monitor. I'm going to try to salvage my current saves, but if I continue to get CTD, I'll start a new character.

 

Thanks again!

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SSME with ENBoost is good combo for some people's super corrupted saves.

 

Make sure that you check out the directions to ENBoost on the STEP guide, we just updated to 2.2.8 this morning, and ENBoost is in section 2.B or 2.C (I forget), but is has a quick way to get it installed. Get SSME from the nexus page and make sure to follow the directions of the author Queue, that guy knows his stuff.

 

Skyrim Performance monitor is good to check if you are hitting the 3.1GB RAM limit or if you are running out of VRAM.

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@EssArrBee... thanks for the info! Updating my .ini files now.

 

Using Skyrim Performance Monitor, I've confirmed that ENBoost has already cut RAM usage by less than half.

 

SSME appears to be working as well; ssme.log matches Nexus description page:

 

SSME v. 01080000

parsing INI file

address 004BD832 patched from 6086290F to 6086110F

address 00687E89 patched from 00000200 to 00000300

address 00A4E6BF validated as 10000000

parsing finished

 

Now that I'm using ENB, is Borderless Window and Safety Load now redundant/not needed?

 

Thanks again,

diznanl

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Yes, you can get Borderless window by going to the Skyrim/enbloca.ini. Open that up and find the [WINDOW] section and change both lines to true. I believe that you need to then open the INI editor in MO and under [Display] find these three lines:

  • bFull Screen=0  <- has to be '0'
  • iSize H=            <- enter resolution on these lines
  • iSize W=
Safety Load is included in the SSME stuff I believe so you don't have to worry, just uninstall it.

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