DoYouEvenModBro Posted September 23, 2013 Posted September 23, 2013 Which ENB are you currently using, and why do you prefer it over others? Also, are you combining it with ELFX, RLO, CoT, etc. Post screenshots!
Garfink Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Somber ENB with ELFX currently but my other favorite is Ruvaak Dahmaan ENB which is much more vanilla like and has much better performance with that I use ELFX and COT combo. Â You guys have seen enough of somber, but for those of you who have been living in a cave and haven't seen Ruvaak Dahmaan in action: [video=youtube] The colors are muted but not absent, its close to vanilla but what I like about it is how cold Skyrim looks, even in the sun it feels cool and brisk. Great atmospheric ENB, the performance is phenomenal, I get 60+fps solid (caveat: Titan+5Ghz CPU+32Gb RAM).
Aiyen Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Okay the "crusade" continues! Performance in ENB presets is not set in stone... hence it should NEVER be used as a reason too use it! ANY ENB preset can be made to cripple your system! Even with a Titan... which is another funny thing. I love when people who have the best cards around say something have stellar performance! ;) But about what really matter in an ENB. The color and tonemapping is nicely done. A tad bit too much green emphasis which oversaturates the yellows imo. But it is really well done in trying to make the game look cold! Which is actually quite difficult to do, since most of the textures respond better to warmer colors then cold.
DoYouEvenModBro Posted September 24, 2013 Author Posted September 24, 2013 I was using Skyrealism ENB with the Cinematic Preset. I REALLY like that one. It stays really close to vanilla and really lets the CoT lighting and ELFX effects shine. However, recently I've been wanting a warmer and more color-rich enb to really bring out the ice/sky/grass/fields of Skyrim so I figured I'd give Project ENB a try since it is made specifically for CoT.
EssArrBee Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 What do you mean by warm and color-rich, those two things are going to work against each other. Warmer presets would imply a shift in the spectrum to red and green, that will give the warmer effect, but also make everything orange. Go the other way to correct with say, the Bloom effect settings, and everything will have a bluish tint, and also be colder looking. Hard to have both since color richness is neutral.
dem1an Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 I like Unreal and I've tried a lot of them. I think it's moody but not too dark and requires very little tuning/tweaking.
Aiyen Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Actually color richness depends on the monitor you are using, and how much of the sRGB area it can cover. As for it being neutral then I am not sure what you mean by that. You can have one that is both warm and color rich, and one that is cool and color rich. But again depending on monitor then it might look really bad if you do not have about equal coverage towards both the red and blues. There is also the actual textures and how intense their colors are to consider.
DoYouEvenModBro Posted September 24, 2013 Author Posted September 24, 2013 Actually color richness depends on the monitor you are using, and how much of the sRGB area it can cover. As for it being neutral then I am not sure what you mean by that. You can have one that is both warm and color rich, and one that is cool and color rich. But again depending on monitor then it might look really bad if you do not have about equal coverage towards both the red and blues.There is also the actual textures and how intense their colors are to consider. I honestly cannot figure out how to get my monitor to look right. I can find the PDF guide for it and link you to it. That way you can see all the settings. Would that work?Actually color richness depends on the monitor you are using, and how much of the sRGB area it can cover.As for it being neutral then I am not sure what you mean by that. You can have one that is both warm and color rich, and one that is cool and color rich. But again depending on monitor then it might look really bad if you do not have about equal coverage towards both the red and blues.There is also the actual textures and how intense their colors are to consider.Here is the manual to my monitor. https://www.asus.com/Monitors_Projectors/VH242H/#support_Download
phazer11 Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 Okay the "crusade" continues!Performance in ENB presets is not set in stone... hence it should NEVER be used as a reason too use it!ANY ENB preset can be made to cripple your system! Even with a Titan... which is another funny thing. I love when people who have the best cards around say something have stellar performance! ;) But about what really matter in an ENB. The color and tonemapping is nicely done. A tad bit too much green emphasis which oversaturates the yellows imo. But it is really well done in trying to make the game look cold! Which is actually quite difficult to do, since most of the textures respond better to warmer colors then cold.It's ok Aiyen you and me are biased. You've completely ruined me for another ENB... though I have yet to try Unreal :P
Aiyen Posted September 24, 2013 Posted September 24, 2013 About Monitor calibration : No... since any monitor calibration would have to take place in front of the actual monitor! This is also why there are only general guides out there on the topic. It is a bit hairy, and it does take a while to get it done properly. But most of the time then its a one time thing you have to do. There is test software you can use, but again its fairly technical, and most of the time you are looking for very small changes. But ultimately then the only thing that matters is that you think the image looks nice. The only way I know that this monitor I use now is far superior color wise then the previous one is because I tested them against each other. Yes it also says so in the documentation, but that means very little. What really matter is how you perceive colors. Edit: About your monitor. Its a TN panel, which also means you must make sure that you are viewing it from a very specific angle or you will get gamma degradation which adversely affect the colors!
DoYouEvenModBro Posted September 24, 2013 Author Posted September 24, 2013 About Monitor calibration : No... since any monitor calibration would have to take place in front of the actual monitor! This is also why there are only general guides out there on the topic. It is a bit hairy, and it does take a while to get it done properly. But most of the time then its a one time thing you have to do.There is test software you can use, but again its fairly technical, and most of the time you are looking for very small changes. But ultimately then the only thing that matters is that you think the image looks nice. The only way I know that this monitor I use now is far superior color wise then the previous one is because I tested them against each other.Yes it also says so in the documentation, but that means very little. What really matter is how you perceive colors.I've tried to Calibrate it tons of times. I've used the lagom website as well as the Windows Color Callibration utility. I just can't get it right. Right now I just put the monitor on "standard mode" with "normal" color temperature (6500k?) and turned up the driver color saturation about 20%.Â
DoYouEvenModBro Posted September 25, 2013 Author Posted September 25, 2013 Project ENB is looking pretty nice. I'm going to try RealVision tomorrow. https://i.imgur.com/aTGPW31.jpg https://i.imgur.com/jgXhF7i.jpg
EssArrBee Posted September 25, 2013 Posted September 25, 2013 Karma whoring your screens Bro? What you think I wouldn't see that? I see everything...
DoYouEvenModBro Posted September 25, 2013 Author Posted September 25, 2013 Karma whoring your screens Bro? What you think I wouldn't see that? I see everything...I'm not proud of it but at least I advertise STEP as much as possible :P
phazer11 Posted September 26, 2013 Posted September 26, 2013 Karma whoring your screens Bro? What you think I wouldn't see that? I see everything...What?
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