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Wyrmstooth - The great mod that i can't play



Well as you may have guessed i have started this thread to talk about skyfalls + skymills in skyrim.....lol


But no seriously, i can't get my game to run with Wyrmstooth installed. It spams my Papyrus log, causes loads of CTD's and freezes, and obviously that makes my game unplayable. I get lots of "script cannot find ..... does not contain that property" errrors


I have tried with fresh starts, and half way through saves. I have Tried the game with wyrmstooth installed, and it causes LOTS of instability. Then if i remove it from my game, and try again, there are no problems. The game runs for hours without a freeze, or CTD. (And thats the same save, not even restarting from scratch)


I have gone through it in tes5edit (OMG that took ages!!) and found nothing,  only a couple of minor things that really dont need sorting.


Can someone out there, take a look at my mods/load order etc, and maybe tell me whats up?


MOD list



Anything with "--" is a non-SR mod that i have added



# This file was automatically generated by Mod Organizer.

+-- ENB Reference

+SUM - SkyProc Unified Manager

+-- Skill Interface Re-Texture - SkyRe Patch

+-- SkyRe ReProccer Compatibility Patches

+-- Balbor and Steelsouls SkyRe ReProccer Project

+-- ReProccer - Automated SkyRe patch generator

+-- SkyRe Patches

+-- Unofficial Skyrim Redone Patch

+-- T3nd0s Skyrim Redone

+-- Forgotten Magic Redone

+-- Falskaar Patches

+-- Falskaar - Dawnguard

+-- Falskaar

+-- The Lost Wonders of Mzark

+-- Moonpath to Elsweyr

+-- Werewolf Perks Expanded 1_6

+-- Swift Potion Reborn

+-- No Boring Sleep-Wait Menu

+-- Dynamic Difficulty 142

+-- AutoSave Manager

+Werewolf Mastery

+Trade and Barter

+The Dance of Death - A Killmove Mod

+Skyrim -Community- Uncapper

+Predator Vision - Vampire Werewolf and Khajiit

+Moonlight Tales - Werewolf and Werebear Overhaul

+Lock Overhaul

+Follower Trap Safety

+Better MessageBox Controls v1_2

+Extensible Follower Framework v4-0-0 Beta

+Dual Wield Parrying

+Convenient Horses

+Better Vampires

+-- Auto Unequip Helmet

+Auto Unequip Ammo

+Alternate Start - Live Another Life

+Acquisitive Soul Gems

+Achieve That

+-- Cute Lydia

+-- Immersive Sounds - Magic

+Ultra Realistic Crossbow Shoot Sounds

+Ultra Realistic Bow Shoot Sounds

+Thundering shouts

+Sounds of Skyrim - Civilization

+Sounds of Skyrim - The Wilds

+Sounds of Skyrim - The Dungeons

+Smooth blade draw and Sheathe

+SILENT Skyrim - Quieter Interface - No More UI Cartoon Noises

+Realistic wolf howls

+IHSS - Improved Horse Step Sounds

+Improved Combat Sounds

+Heart of the Beast - Werewolf Sound and Texture Overhaul

+DSAMG - Dragonborn Patches

+DSAMG - Dragon Soul Absorb More Glorious

+Clanking Armor

+Better Weapon Swing Sounds

+Better Horse Pain Sounds

+Better Bards

+Better Animal Footsteps

+Activate Fail Noise Removal

+-- Fantasy Music Overhaul

+-- Dual Sheath Redux - Better Shaped Weapons

+Dual Sheath Redux - SkyRe

+Dual Sheath Redux - Immersive Armours

+Dual Sheath Redux - Immersive Weapons

+Dual Sheath Redux - aMidianBorn Book of Silence

+Dual Sheath Redux - Skyrim De-LARP Sword on Back

+Dual Sheath Redux - Skyrim De-LARP

+Dual Sheath Redux - Sword on Back

+Dual Sheath Redux

+-- Tribunal robes set - UNPB BBP

+-- Tribunal Robes by Zairaam Fix v1

+-- Tribunal Robes V2

+-- Remodeled Armors - UNP version - Originally by Mak07 for CBBEv3M

+-- Arise - Chapter 1 - The Black Sacrament

+-- Immersive Armors - UNP Support

+-- Immersive Armors

+TroubleMakers Clothing Replacers UNPB - BBPx

+UNP Female Armors

+UNP Dragonborn Armors

+UNP Dawnguard Armors

+-- Better Shaped Weapons - Skyforge Steel

+-- Better Shaped Weapons

+Greatsword Sheaths and Scabbards Redux

+Skyrim Weapon De-LARP-ification Project

+Dark Nemesis Armor - Ebony Reincarnation

+Improved closefaced helmets + Dawnguard

+Closer Quivers and Longer Arrows

+Daedric Armor and weapon Improvement

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - UNIQUE

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - WEAPONS

+aMidianBorn Book of Silence - ARMORS

+-- Immersive Weapons

+-- Crossbow Basic Collection 1 1 2 EN LL

+-- Lanterns for Guards - Wearable Lanterns Add-On

+Wearable Lanterns

+Weapons and Armor Fixes - Remade with Dawnguard and Dragonborn support

+Virtus Imperii - Imperial Gear Re-mastered


+Not Really HD Mask of Clavicus Vile

+Nightingale Prime HD

+Jewels of the Nord - HD rings and necklaces

+Jester Outfit ReTexture -Standalone and Craftable-

+Enchantment Effect Replacer

+Elven Weapons for Silence

+Deadly Serious Shrouded Armor

+Dawnguard Vampire Armors Retexture

+Dawnguard Crossbow Explosive Bolts Visualized

+Cloaks of Skyrim - DawnGuard

+Cloaks of Skyrim

+Bandolier - Dawnguard

+Bandolier - Bags and Pouches

+Ars Metallica - Smithing Enhancement

+-- Unique Dragon Preist Masks

+Animated Weapon Enchants

+When Vampires Attack

+Run For Your Lives

+No NPC Greetings - Slightly Reduced

+Move it Dammit for NPC Companions and Followers

+Guard Dialogue Overhaul

+XP32 Maximum Skeleton -XPMS

+Dual Wield Blocking Animations

+Running with a bow 3rd person

+No Spinning Death Animation

+New Animation for magic cast v0-8 - NMM installer

+Immersive Animations

+FNIS Behavior V3 5 -- ALWAYS necessary

+Female Facial Animation

+Bowlegged Jump Animation Fix

+Better Turn Animation Only One Pose + Crossed Swords Fix

+Belt-Fastened Quivers

+Argonian Sneak Tail Twist Fix

+XCE - Warpaint and Dirt


+Better Makeup

+-- DCE - Realistic Male Face

+Mature Skin - Alterantive Body and face texture UNP

+Mature skin texture and body for UNP CBBE ADEC

+All in One Face for Dawnguard Vampire and Vanilla Races - UNP - CBBEv3 - Vanilla


+Cover Khajiits Female

+Better Freckles

+Better Beast Races

+-- BVFE - Better Vampire Fangs and Eyes

+Natural Eyes

+-- Superior Lore-Friendly Hair - HD textures

+More Realistic Hair

+Better Vanilla Hair by kebrus v02b


+Apachii SkyHair - Natural Retexture

+Apachii SkyHair

+-- Etherial Elven Overhaul

+-- Dragon Combat Overhaul

+Vampire Lord Armoured

+SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators - Dawnguard

+SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators - Dragonborn

+SkyTEST - Realistic Animals and Predators

+-- Skyrim Immersive Creatures - SkyRe Fix

+Skyrim Immersive Creatures

+Grimoas Vampire Lord Vanilla Armour

+Fraost Atronach HD

+Deadly Dragons package

+Dawnguard Rewritten Arvak - Convenient Alsvid Patch

+Dawnguard Rewritten - Arvak

+Bellyaches HD Dragon Replacer Pack

+-- Glowing Ore Veins

+-- Elysium Estate

+-- Beautiful Whiterun

+-- Skyrim Performance PLUS

+Ultimate HD Fire Effects

+Silly Level of Detail - Potions and Poisons

+Realistic Mushrooms + Stew + Dragonborn

+Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and BOOZE v2 NON GLOW


+Skyrim Redesigned


+Tobes Highres Textures

+-- aMidianBorn Caves

+Hectrol CAVES DELUXE HighRes Retex 4K

+Super Realistic Ore Textures

+Animated Dwemer Lift Load Doors for Dragonborn DLC

+Ruins_Clutter_Improved_v2-5 NMM Installation

+Langleys Wood Metal and Stone Workshop - High Hrothgar

+Langleys Wood Metal and Stone Workshop - Riften + Markarth

+Langleys Wood Metal and Stone Workshop - Windhelm

+Langleys Wood Metal and Stone Workshop - Solitude

+Langleys Wood Metal and Stone Workshop - Clutter + Furniture

+Langleys Wood Metal and Stone Workshop - Forts + Tents

+Re-Defined Dungeons

+Detailed Rugs

+-- Unknown Enchants

+-- SkyFalls and SkyMills - Patch for W.A.T.E.R

+-- SkyFalls and SkyMills - Animated Distant Waterfalls and WindMills

+-- Supreme Storms

+windmills resized

+Whitrun Trellis Texture

+Visible Windows High v1_2

+Vibrant Auroras 1_2

+Ultimate HD Torch HiRes - 2048x2048

+The Paarthurnax Dilemma

+Sweet Mother HD

+Soul Gems Differ - BAIN Wizard

+Skyrim Project Optimization

+Skyrim Improved Puddles - SIP

+Skyrim Coin Replacer

+Septim HD

+Realistic tundra moss AOF yellow

+Realistic Force

+Realistic Paper DARK

+-- Real Snow

+Real Ice ALL-IN-ONE Installer by morpheas768

+Real Effect Candle

+PondFish Retexture

+Point The Way

+HD Keys With Normal Maps

+Mystery Modders Shrines HD

+Lightning During Thunderstorms - CoT Patch

+Lightning During Thunder Storms

+Lanterns Of Skyrim - CoT V3.1 Level 8 Preset

+Lanterns of Skyrim - AIO - Dawnguard

+Lanterns of Skyrim - All In One

+Jeclredured - Standing Stones

+Jeclredured - Spell Tomes

+Intricate Spider Webs

+Improved Weapon Impact Effects

+Hybrids Hires Plant and Herb Retexture

+HQ Skyrim Maps

+HQ 4k milky way galaxy

+HiRes Road Signs - Worn Text

+HQLODs - Meshes Hi-Res

+HD Ivy - Original Green

+HDSacks - 14TypeBBig

+HDSacks - 14TypeBSmall

+HD Ore And Ingots

+Hd Enhanced Terrain and Map snow 2048X2048

+HD Baskets Fixed

+Finer Dust

+Falmer Glow Retexture

+Enhanced Night Skyrim - Medium Stars

+Enhanced Blood Textures

+Dragon Glyphs HD - Smooth

+Distant Detail Hearthfire Edition

+Detailed Chests - Washed Out Dirty - 2048

+Dark Brotherhood Tenets Restored

+Designs of The Nords - Banners

+Deadly Spell Impacts - Medium

+BFS Effects 3 6 - Dragonborn Dawnguard

+BFS Effects 3 6 - Loose

+Bumpy Inn and Shop Signs

+Book Covers Skyrim

+Bloody Dragon Bones

+Better Shadowmarks

+Better Embers

+AOF Farmhouses

+-- SnowFX for ENB

+-- Enhanced Lights and FX - Dawnguard

+-- Enhanced Lights and FX

+-- Climates Of Tamriel - Weather Patch - Supreme Storms Patch

+-- Climates Of Tamriel - Weather Patch

+-- Falskaar - Climates of Tamriel patch

+Climates Of Tamriel - V3-1

+-- Superior Rock Textures - Grey

+-- aMidianBorn Whiterun

+-- aMidianBorn roads + bridges

+-- Project Parallax Remastered

+-- Parallax - Rocks and Mountains 2 Beta

--- Parallax - Roads and Bridges

--- Parallax - Windhelm

--- Parallax - Markarth

--- Parallax - Whiterun Vanilla and SRO V3

--- Parallax - Solitude Skyrim Realistic Overhaul

+-- Grass on Steroids - a grass mod that gives FPS BOOST and Dense Grass

+W.A.T.E.R. Compatibility Patch - ENB Particle Fix

+-- WATER v1_75 - Falskaar

+WATER v1_75


+Skyrim Flora Overhaul

+Serious HD Retexture Skyrim

+Skyrim Realistic Overhaul 1.6 + Dawnguard

+Skyrim HD - 2K Textures

+Static Mesh Improvement Mod - SMIM

+Better Dynamic Snow 2-20

+No stretching Full

+Smaller Cursor


+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Dawnguard - Werewolf Interface Patch

+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Dawnguard Retexture

+Skill Interface Re-Texture - Main

+Race Menu

+-- SovnsMenuReplacer

+Lockpicking Interface Retex

+Immersive HUD - iHUD


+Face to face conversation

+Even Better Quest Objectives

+Dungeon Quest Awareness_1-0

+Double Cursor Fix

+Borderless Window

+BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions

+Better Dialogue Controls v1_2

+Atlas Map Markers with Dragonborn Dawnguard and Blackreach Addons

+A Quality World Map Installer

+Skyrim Particle Patch for ENB


+Multiple Lycanthropy Regift v1

+Fuz Ro Doh - Silent Voice

+Fast travel fimescale fix

+Enhanced Projectile Soul Trap

+-- Enhanced Distant Terrain 2 - Trudgement Day

+Diverse Priests

+Dead Body Collision Fix - With Improved Fireball Spell

+Argonian Decapitation Fix

+Appropriately Attired Jarls

+Unofficial High Resolution Patch

+Unofficial Dragonborn Patch

+Unofficial Hearthfire Patch

+Unofficial Dawnguard Patch

+Unofficial Skyrim Patch




+Dragonborn Opt

+Hearthfires Opt

+Dawnguard Opt

+Vanilla Opt

+Skyrim Script Extender




I was going to show you my ini files too but i know it can't be those, i have already tried resetting them to vanilla, and it didn't work. I am currently using Ewis High ini and prefs. And they have given me no problems at all.


I am using ModOrganizer, and you can see the rest in my sig \/

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The scripts being there isn't the problem, it's that a script no longer contains a piece of code that the object used to have access to. I have no clue why this is, but it never affected me playing Wyrmstooth during two playthroughs. The latest version is supposed to remove a bit of Papyrus errors, I know all the instrument errors are gone from my logs, so check if you have it.

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Im just having a bit of an overhaul of my installation anyway. gonna re-download the mod, and double tripple check everything is installed properly. And spend a LOT of time staring at tes5edit, SkyRe is a great mod, but a bugger for conflicts

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Well I've just spent the past couple of days updating and tweaking my mod list. Reinstalled a few mods and checked lots for conflicts. Can't find anything in wyrmstooth. Thinking it might have just been an install glitch or something. Tomorrow I'm gonna crack on with some good game play and see what papyrus kicks out at me. Try n figure out what happened


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Well I've just spent the past couple of days updating and tweaking my mod list. Reinstalled a few mods and checked lots for conflicts. Can't find anything in wyrmstooth. Thinking it might have just been an install glitch or something. Tomorrow I'm gonna crack on with some good game play and see what papyrus kicks out at me. Try n figure out what happened


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I am a Skyrim Unleashed, Duel, Forgotten Magic, Apocalyse, Mighty Magick, Skyre (just perks & races, no need for reproccer as I am using the weapon values from Skyrim Unleashed, which only supports immersive armor & weapons), Classic Classes or Race Overhaul, Convenient Horses, Frostfall, Realistic Needs, Wet & Cold (but not the footprint mod), 3DNPC, Inconsequential NPCs, Weapon degrade, ASIS, Falskaar & Wyrmtooth user


Wyrmtooth (the new version) works fine now.  I had the same issue with the previous version of the mod.

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