CTD...

[Markqq]

So I recently installed the step through MO step by step very carefully. Hell took so many hours. Also I cleaned the "dirty" files with  BOSS and TES5dit program, seems pretty clean now. However, whenever I enable .esp files in MO, I get CTD when it's in loading screen. 

 

Also, I haven't figured out what .esp files are causing them, but so far I know there is more than one, many of them which causes CTD, and now I am absolutely helpess.

 

This does not tell much, but I hope you guys here will have some answers or instructions what should I do, because I ran out of ideas how to get this thing to work.

[Kelmych]

There are several ways you can determine which files are missing, but one of the easiest ways is to use TES5Edit. Start it and hit the OK button to load all esp/esm files. As it loads it will let you know if there are missing esp or esm files.

[Markqq]

Going to figure out today if I can get this working. Btw, when I installed SkyUI, it complained about that I didn't have SKSE installed, even though it is installed manually by copying files directly to skyrim folder, what's up with it?

 

EDIT: I think I was a bit misleading in OP. Skyrim starts, but crashes right at the point when I get in the main menu screen.

[Aiyen]

The SKSE main files are in your skyrim folder as they should be.

However MO cannot see this folder hence when you install SkyUI in MO then it cannot see the files and makes you aware of that.

This is normal, and should not present an issue.

[rootsrat]

There are several ways you can determine which files are missing, but one of the easiest ways is to use TES5Edit. Start it and hit the OK button to load all esp/esm files. As it loads it will let you know if there are missing esp or esm files.

 

Just to bear in mind to ensure that all the files are ticked. Or you can just right click the list (the one tha appears when you first open TES5EDIT) and select Enable All - that is provided that you have no mods that should NOT be enabled (an example could be an older version of Winter is Coming mod, that placed 3 esps in your Data folder, but only 1 should ever be enabled).

 

EDIT: I think I was a bit misleading in OP. Skyrim starts, but crashes right at the point when I get in the main menu screen.

 

That could indicates couple of different things, for example missing master file (ESM) or critical mod conflict.

 

Please post your load order (just copy and paste BOSS log after you run it - make sure it's in Spoiler tags) - this should help investigating the issue.

[Markqq]

Hello again.

 

Here is my boss log if you can help me.

 

 

 

BOSS

Version 2.1.1

 

 

======================================

Summary

======================================

 

 

Plugin Type Count

Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 8

Unrecognised 0

Inactive 0

All 8

 

 

Plugin Message Type Count

Warning 0

Error 0

All 2

 

 

* Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r6916; 2013-05-18). No update necessary.

* No change in recognised plugin list since last run.

* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("https://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1457307-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")

* Note: The BOSS team has been overwhelmed with the popularity of submissions of unrecognised plugins from the BOSS Log and the number of outstanding unique submissions. As of 26 April 2013 we are at over 5500+ plugins to add to the Masterlist dating as far back as September 2012. If you are interested in helping to get these plugins added to BOSS's masterlist, please PM Aellis (Bethesda Softworks Forums ("https://forums.bethsoft.com/user/364024-aellis/") or Nexus Mods ("https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showuser=65745/")).

* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.

 

 

======================================

SKSE Plugins

======================================

 

 

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.13

 

 

======================================

Recognised Plugins

======================================

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

 

Update.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Dawnguard.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

HearthFires.esm Active

 

Dragonborn.esm Active

 

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

 

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

 

HighResTexturePack03.esp Active

 

 

 

Btw, I installed all the mods with Mod Organizer, except few ones which was unable to install with that.

[EssArrBee]

Hello again.

 

Here is my boss log if you can help me.

 

 

 

BOSS

Version 2.1.1

 

 

======================================

Summary

======================================

 

 

Plugin Type Count

Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 8

Unrecognised 0

Inactive 0

All 8

 

 

Plugin Message Type Count

Warning 0

Error 0

All 2

 

 

* Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r6916; 2013-05-18). No update necessary.

* No change in recognised plugin list since last run.

* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("https://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1457307-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")

* Note: The BOSS team has been overwhelmed with the popularity of submissions of unrecognised plugins from the BOSS Log and the number of outstanding unique submissions. As of 26 April 2013 we are at over 5500+ plugins to add to the Masterlist dating as far back as September 2012. If you are interested in helping to get these plugins added to BOSS's masterlist, please PM Aellis (Bethesda Softworks Forums ("https://forums.bethsoft.com/user/364024-aellis/") or Nexus Mods ("https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showuser=65745/")).

* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.

 

 

======================================

SKSE Plugins

======================================

 

 

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.13

 

 

======================================

Recognised Plugins

======================================

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

 

Update.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Dawnguard.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

HearthFires.esm Active

 

Dragonborn.esm Active

 

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

 

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

 

HighResTexturePack03.esp Active

 

 

 

Btw, I installed all the mods with Mod Organizer, except few ones which was unable to install with that.

Your BOSS log only showed 8 esm/esp so you either didn't install your mods correctly or you ran BOSS before installing them.

[Markqq]

When I installed BOSS, before any mods to be honest, I opened to program to see stuff what's in it, is there a way to rescan it?

[Kelmych]

Just run the program (BOSSGUI.exe) again and click "Run BOSS".

[Markqq]

Just run the program (BOSSGUI.exe) again and click "Run BOSS".

Doesnt help because I am using MO to organizes mods and it's installing mods at it's own folders so I must run boss through the program and theres new spoiler above, or then I am terribly doing something wrong.

 

Okay heres I opened BOSS through Mod Organizer and heres the result:

 

 

 

BOSS

Version 2.1.1

 

 

======================================

Summary

======================================

 

 

Plugin Type Count

Recognised (or sorted by user rules) 121

Unrecognised 0

Inactive 0

All 121

 

 

Plugin Message Type Count

Warning 0

Error 4

All 21

 

 

* Your masterlist is already at the latest revision (r6916; 2013-05-18). No update necessary.

* Note: Latest BOSS thread ("https://forums.bethsoft.com/topic/1457307-relz-boss-for-skyrim/")

* Note: The BOSS team has been overwhelmed with the popularity of submissions of unrecognised plugins from the BOSS Log and the number of outstanding unique submissions. As of 26 April 2013 we are at over 5500+ plugins to add to the Masterlist dating as far back as September 2012. If you are interested in helping to get these plugins added to BOSS's masterlist, please PM Aellis (Bethesda Softworks Forums ("https://forums.bethsoft.com/user/364024-aellis/") or Nexus Mods ("https://forums.nexusmods.com/index.php?showuser=65745/")).

* Note: Your SKSE is up-to-date.

 

 

======================================

SKSE Plugins

======================================

 

 

 

SKSE Version: 0.1.6.13

 

CFM_extensions.dll

 

Fuz Ro D'oh.dll Version: 6.0.6.405

 

Nitpick.dll Version: 6.0.6.405

 

SKSE_Elys_AltF4.dll Version: 1.0.0.0

 

SKSE_Elys_Uncapper.dll Version: 1.15.1.1

 

 

======================================

Recognised Plugins

======================================

 

 

These plugins are recognised by BOSS and have been sorted according to its masterlist. Please read any attached messages and act on any that require action.

 

Skyrim.esm Active

 

Update.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Dawnguard.esm Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

HearthFires.esm Active

 

Dragonborn.esm Active

 

Skyrim Project Optimization - Full Version.esm Active

 

SPIKE.esm Active

 

HighResTexturePack01.esp Active

 

HighResTexturePack02.esp Active

 

HighResTexturePack03.esp Active

 

Brawl Bugs CE.esp Active

 

Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Unofficial Dawnguard Patch.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Unofficial Hearthfire Patch.esp Active

 

Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp Active

 

Rainbows.esp Active

 

BWS.esp Active

 

Clanking Armor.esp Active

 

IHSS.esp Active

 

Improved Combat Sounds v2.2.esp Active

 

randomthunder.esp Active

 

Rooster At Dawn v1.0.esp Active

 

Thundering Shouts.esp Active

 

mintylightningmod.esp Active

 

StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active

 

StaticMeshImprovementMod-DragonbornTernFix.esp Active

 

83Willows_101BUGS_V4_LowRes.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev, Relev}}

 

 

Ars Metallica.esp Active

 

Ars Metallica - Dawnguard.esp Active

 

Ars Metallica - Hearthfire.esp Active

 

Ars Metallica - Dragonborn.esp Active

 

BirdsHFclean.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 48 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("https://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

Birdsofskyrim.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 32 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("https://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

BLESSINGS - Altar Descriptions.esp Active

 

Bring Out Your Dead.esp Active

 

Chesko_WearableLantern.esp Active

 

Chesko_WearableLantern_Guards.esp Active

 

Chesko_WearableLantern_Candle_DG.esp Active

 

Chesko_WearableLantern_Caravaner.esp Active

 

ClamsDropPearls.esp Active

 

dbmisc.esp Active

 

Dead Body Collision.esp Active

 

Death Cam Duration Options.esp Active

 

DD_Dawnguard Additions.esp Active

 

DD_Dragonborn Additions.esp Active

 

Dual Sheath Redux.esp Active

* Requires: Java Runtime Environment 7 update 17+

 

 

DungeonQuestAwareness.esp Active

 

fFastTravelSpeedMult_4.esp Active

 

Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Default.esp Active

* Note: Use only one Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One esp.

 

 

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp Active

* Error: Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without it.

 

 

MVAIvarstead.esp Active

 

Moss Rocks.esp Active

 

ORM-Arvak.esp Active

 

PilgrimsDelight.esp Active

 

Point The Way.esp Active

 

RabbitsPlus.esp Active

 

Radiant and Unique Potions Poisons and Booze.esp Active

 

ShootingStars.esp Active

 

Skyrim Flora Overhaul.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 1 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("https://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

SkyrimImprovedPuddles-DG-HF-DB.esp Active

* Note: Use only one SkyrimImprovedPuddles esp.

 

 

SMDropLitTorch.esp Active

 

Convenient Horses.esp Active

 

Destructible_bottles.esp Active

 

Auto Unequip Ammo.esp Active

 

Chesko_LoreBasedLoadingScreens.esp Active

 

Footprints - Ash.esp Active

 

RaceMenu.esp Active

 

RaceMenuPlugin.esp Active

* Note: RaceMenuPlugin is optional and provides support to alter Height, Breast, Glute and Biceps. If you experience issues with it, disable RaceMenuPlugin.esp and inform the author.

 

 

WetandCold.esp Active

 

SkyUI.esp Active

 

iHUD.esp Active

 

daedric_phelm.esp Active

 

Elemental Staves.esp Active

 

imp_helm_dawn.esp Active

 

Lock Overhaul.esp Active

 

Gildergreen Regrown.esp Active

 

Run For Your Lives.esp Active

 

When Vampires Attack.esp Active

 

SkyrimChimneysRW.esp Active

 

The Paarthurnax Dilemma.esp Active

 

SkyrimCoinReplacer.esp Active

* Bash Tag suggestion(s): {{BASH: Delev}}

 

 

Acquisitive Soul Gems.esp Active

 

Appropriately Attired Jarls Redux.esp Active

 

BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp Active

* Error: BetterQuestObjectives.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if this file is active without Requiem

 

 

BlockSparkles.esp Active

 

Distant DetailHF.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 328 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("https://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

DiversePriests.esp Active

 

DiversePriests_BringOutYourDeadPatch.esp Active

 

dynamic fires.esp Active

 

Guard Dialogue Overhaul.esp Active

 

masser Size x0.5.esp Active

 

More Salt Please - Dragonborn addon.esp Active

 

dD-No Twitching Dragon Death Animation.esp Active

 

NonEssentialChildren.esp Active

 

BetterQuestObjectives-NECPatch.esp Active

* Error: BetterQuestObjectives.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if this file is active without Even Better Quest Objectives

 

 

secunda Size x0.5.esp Active

 

dD-Dragonborn-Dawnguard-EBT Patch.esp Active

* Error: dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without dD - Enhanced Blood Main.esp.

 

 

TheChoiceIsYours.esp Active

* Contains dirty edits: 4 ITM, 0 UDR records. Needs TES5Edit ("https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/25859") cleaning. A cleaning guide is available here ("https://www.creationkit.com/TES5Edit_Cleaning_Guide_-_TES5Edit").

 

 

BetterQuestObjectives-TheChoiceIsYoursPatch.esp Active

 

Thieves Guild Requirements.esp Active

 

Waterbreathing Breathless Emerge.esp Active

 

AIMP - Antz in my Pantz.esp Active

 

Chesko_Step418_SN.esp Active

 

Unique Region Names.esp Active

 

dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active

* Note: Ragdolls will conflict with other mods that change the skeleton.nif. Check Custom Skeleton Replacers ("https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/16712") for compatibly with other skeleton.nif.

 

 

Disease Descriptions_RND Compatibile.esp Active

 

BFSEffects.esp Active

 

DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active

 

Realistic crime report radius.esp Active

 

Enhanced Soul Trap.esp Active

 

Soul Gems Differ - E.esp Active

 

Beards.esp Active

 

Brows.esp Active

 

Slightly Reduced Distance NPC Greetings.esp Active

 

SPTConsistentOlderPeople.esp Active

* Note: If this is not newer than v1.3, update to the latest version.

 

 

Follower Trap Safety.esp Active

 

moveitLWT.esp Active

 

Animated Weapon Enchants.esp Active

 

DawnguardRuneWeaponsFXSReplacer.esp Active

 

WATER DB Waves.esp Active

 

DiversePriests_ConsistentOlderPeoplePatch.esp Active

 

 

 

Thanks in advance.

[Markqq]

Any help pretty please? Theres a new boss log above :-(

[torminater]

You need BetterQuestObjectives.esp, which is not present in your Skyrim\Data directory.

[Vond]

Here's another big one.

 

manny Lantern Caretakers.esp Active

* Error: Lanterns Of Skyrim - All In One - Main.esm is not present or is not active. Skyrim will CTD when loading if using this file without it.

I also see you have the DB waves file from water, but not the other files

 

 

 

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[WilliamImm]

Has the user been using the intergrated FOMOD installer of Mod Organizer? If so, he should disable it when installing Even Better Quest Objectives (and Closer Quivers, among others) - since for some reason the installers for those mods don't work properly when the intergrated fomod installer is used, causing missing files (among others).

 

Also, some other big things:

 

• Missing Unofficial Dragonborn Patch. You should get all unofficial patches for the DLCs you own, and plus, it's even more important because without it, dragon souls will not asorb properly.
• Disease Descriptions is the RND compatible version, yet the user does not have RND. They should use the vanilla version of the mod.
• MO has a option to extract BSAs by default. If that is selected, you shouldn't need BWS.esp, Brawl Bugs CE.esp, Unofficial High Resolution Patch.esp, Thundering Shouts.esp, and Follower Trap Safety.esp.
• Under no circumstances should daedric_phelm.esp be enabled, or the game could potentially be corrupted. In fact, that should be deleted. (Out of order records - seems to be made using TES5Snip)
• Try to go and clean the mods BOSS reports as dirty using TES5Edit - less dirty edits makes the game expierence much better.

[Markqq]

Err okay, probably installing mods all over again, because it's going to be a big mess otherwise.

 

Gonna reply later and see if I get this to work.

 

I am a newbie when modding, but I try to do better this time.

[Wormheart]

• You shouldn't use both BirdsHFclean.esp and Birdsofskyrim.esp - use one or the other. Preferably, use the cleaned version.

I believe those are two different mods, both included in S.T.E.P.

Birds and Flocks

Birds of Skyrim

 

As far as I know they don't conflict, did I miss something?