Thc002 Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 As the title suggests Im looking for a realistic and lore friendly mod to remove the not-so-lore-friendly underwear everyone in Skyrim seams to wear. Apart from this, the mod should change as little as possible. I Dont want hairy bears or size d breasts, or any of that stuff ;) ty
torminater Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 Weeeell, I'ld suggest you just search through the nexus file section adult-only. No way we're going to have a screenshot compilation on this topic on this forum though :D
PioneerRaptor Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 The game is rated "M" for Mature here in America and rated high in most other countries as well. I think STEP should address this for the simple fact of immersion and reality. Looking at the game, most of these people would be lucky to afford under garments at all. I don't see a problem adding in a mod that is realistic and not over-the-top. Obviously, we don't all want pornstars or barbies, but some nice realism would be good. Also, sometimes I just want to go for a swim, naked ;)
MontyMM Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I don't think we're a terribly prudish bunch around here, and if there was a good quality male/female body replacement mod, we'd probably take a look at it. My personal concern, is that although such investigation may start out mature and reasonable, we risk opening a portal to the sad and tacky dimension.
Gyro Posted March 9, 2013 Posted March 9, 2013 I believe the current idea is to keep things worksafe. NeoValen's STEP revisited, however, does address nudity.
WilliamImm Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Well, given the rating in the USA and elsewhere, nudity isn't much of a concern. Well, except for taste. Ideally, there should be something like The Girl Next Door (TGND) body for Oblivion - a body based off one of the popular body mods (preferably UNP), but with realistic proportions. That would be ideal. Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
torminater Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 So what about this? "Gritty" enough? ;-)https://skyrim.nexusmods.com/mods/32986/
MontyMM Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 That actually looks pretty human. Now, I assume he has a corresponding mod for the male of the species...?
kryptopyr Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 Sorry, but I don't understand how nude mods are more "realistic." If they allowed you to remove the undergarments from someone, I could understand that argument. But in reality, the people of Skyrim should be wearing more underclothing, not less. People in similar historic periods (particularly in northern climates) almost always wore multiple layers of clothing. They would wear some form of gown underneath their outer clothing. All but the very poorest would have some type of simple clothing to wear underneath their outergarments. Thick clothing would be worn under armor to help pad it. Anyone who could afford the simplest form of armor, would definitely be able to afford some type of undergarment. To me, adding nude models implies that my character must have taken the time to fully strip the corpses. Why would I bother taking their undergarments? They wouldn't have much intrinsic value, so why bother? I've tried a few, and they really break immersion for me. I can understand the appeal of nude mods, but not the argument that they add to realism or immersion. I don't think that nude models belong in STEP.
MontyMM Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 I tend to agree, and I'm personally pretty skeptical of the whole business. I can see an argument for better quality bodies, but I can't see much point in full nudity. I think the single-gender nature of the vast majority of these things tells you all you need to know about the motivation for their creation.
Besidilo Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 It's funny how some people consider games where decapitating people and setting them on fire is considered normal, but a little boob here and there is a big "NO NO"! 'Murica! Edit: just to be clear, I'm not arguing for using nude mods, as I agree with kryptopyr, the lack of undergarments in a country with such a climate is focking retarded. Not to mention that NOBODY would want to wear a chainmail, or any kind of hardened armour for that matter, on bare skin. Unless they were trying to skin themselves alive, that is. IMHO, if you want to see Nords the way they're meant to be, or even them getting a little kinky, then by all means, do as you please. Stripping Khajits makes you a furry though, and you should see a doctor immediately if that happens to be the case. There are two basic nude mods, CBBE and UNP. Then there are numerous ridiculous variations of those. None of them address the fact that all humans are different.
WilliamImm Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 I'm going to agree with kryptopyr after reading his post - nude mods for the sake of realism is a pretty poor excuse. Mods that make bodies better formed without making them nude, mods that give realistic variation in body shape (like VaderApp's Realistic Body System patcher and his similar VORB for Oblivion), those could work in STEP. Now, if only someone would make and refine one of those bodies....
Gyro Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 IMHO, if you want to see Nords the way they're meant to be, or even them getting a little kinky, then by all means, do as you please. Stripping Khajits makes you a furry though, and you should see a doctor immediately if that Aw, lay off the furries. They're just doing their thing.
Thc002 Posted March 10, 2013 Author Posted March 10, 2013 nude mods for the sake of realism is a pretty poor excuse. lol. Excuse for what exactly? I learned in school, that the far most people in medieval times did not wear any underwear. So with this concept in my mind, I just expect them to be nude under their main cloth. If thats not the case and I find some shiny golden bras and slips instead, Im confused. That is all.
kryptopyr Posted March 10, 2013 Posted March 10, 2013 They may not have worn the same sort of underwear/bras that exist today, but they definitely worn undergarments. Most undergarments were simple linen or wool. Actually, I believe the Greeks and/or Romans may have worn undergarments that would have looked closer to the Elder Scrolls version (two-piece for females). Females would have worn fabric wrapped around their breasts rather than what we think of as a bra, though I think male undergarments were more pant-like and less loin cloth. Medieval undergarments were often full-length gowns that were similar in cut to their outerwear. Obviously such things varied by culture and time period, but most medieval/ancient cultures did wear some form of underclothing. I'd really like to see a mod that allows some variation in muscle mass for females via the weight slider. I'm not looking for bodybuilders, but rather some natural variation in the size and definition of muscles. As far as I know the only mods that add more muscle or create an athletic look for females do so by altering the textures or normal maps and therefore the change is applied to all females without any allowing the appearance to vary with weight the way males do.
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