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The Dragonborn compares are definitely very good. Most likely the author tweaked those last, and by then had the most experience. I think there is great potential here. One thing that it looks like is he used more varied imagespaces than Cathedral. Cathedral tends to use the same imagespace for most weathers. Probably why it can be changed via MCM. Best would be customized to each weather. I really was happy to see the use of DOF in RAID. 

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On 2/8/2022 at 7:59 PM, Mousetick said:

Very nice comparison shots, thanks.

As an alternative to Luminosity and to provide darker interiors, I've been using Ambiance - A Vanilla(plus) Ambient Lighting Overhaul (by TheMilesO). It only modifies ambient lighting templates to make interiors a bit darker or much darker depending on the environment (e.g. cave vs. farmhouse vs. palace). It also tweaks interior fogs to make them less opaque and less bright. Everything else remains untouched and vanilla. There is an optional plugin which I'm using too, to make lights a little warmer than vanilla, but not as orange as Luminosity. This mod is rated well for stealth balance by RAID's MA (bottom of chart).

It works well in combination with Relighting Skyrim since they do different things, except when they don't. For instance, RLS removes some ambient lighting in the Thalmor HQ in Solitude, which makes it as dark as a cave with Ambiance.

There are some caveats though: the MA seems to be MIA and the mod is not maintained. So if updates are needed for AE CC content for example they won't be coming anytime soon. Also its user base is tiny, compared to more popular lighting mods (probably because it's not flashy enough). So there are no compatibility patches for new interiors added by CRF for instance or by other mods. It's easy enough to replicate the template changes in a custom patch by oneself if desired.

I have been using Ambiance as well. I am also using it due to the rating in RAID's chart for a DB/TG playthrough. It is much more subtle than Luminosity. I have always enjoyed Special Edition's interior lighting. Yes, even on its own. Ambiance gives great finishing touches that I am very happy with. 

In terms of weather mods Cathedral Weathers is very beautiful. The sacrifice is definitely there in terms of stealth, fog, less dark nights and often going beyond a vanilla + enhancement. Some weathers end up bluer than I would like for my idea of Skyrim. I agree that it looks more realistic. The main thing I miss the most with Cathedral are the less distant fogs that can creep up. 

 

  I often play characters that are very roleplay centric so something like RAID Weathers would not benefit me much for non-stealth characters. I often make my load orders based on my roleplaying ideas but that is too much for STEP for sure lol

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Just a heads up that the massive v2.0 update should hopefully be up within a week or so. 400+ hours went into it, it upgrades quite a lot.

I will also update the low saturation patch Z provided.

Thanks to Z for feedback/suggestions, and thanks to TechAngel for the comparison screenshots which were useful for checking how it looked on other setups than my own.

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2 hours ago, OlivierDoorenbos said:

Just a heads up that the massive v2.0 update should hopefully be up within a week or so. 400+ hours went into it, it upgrades quite a lot.

I will also update the low saturation patch Z provided.

Thanks to Z for feedback/suggestions, and thanks to TechAngel for the comparison screenshots which were useful for checking how it looked on other setups than my own.

I'll be sure to check it out. Thanks back!

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2 hours ago, OlivierDoorenbos said:

Just a heads up that the massive v2.0 update should hopefully be up within a week or so. 400+ hours went into it, it upgrades quite a lot.

I will also update the low saturation patch Z provided.

Thanks to Z for feedback/suggestions, and thanks to TechAngel for the comparison screenshots which were useful for checking how it looked on other setups than my own.

If I can find the time, I will update the shots once it's released. I'm still getting up my mod development environment set back up, atm.

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In case anyone doesn't know, OlivierDoorenbos has passed away. This update was one of the final things he did prior to his passing.

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2 hours ago, DoubleYou said:

In case anyone doesn't know, OlivierDoorenbos has passed away. This update was one of the final things he did prior to his passing.

OMG ... that's horrific.

He was a meticulous and dedicated SSE MA.

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