Missed RDO xEdits in Step Extended

[mentaltyranny]

It looks like a couple changes from the RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp weren't incorporated through to the STEP extended patched.  Here are FormIDs as reported by xEdit are:

• LillithMaidenLoomRef [ACHR:0010E2B6] (places LillithMaidenLoom "Lillith Maiden-Loom" [NPC_:00013BC0] in GRUP Cell Temporary Children of WhiterunStables "Whiterun Stables" [CELL:000165A0])
• [iNFO:0002129C] ('Mind you don't cross Tassius. He's in charge around here.' in GRUP Topic Children of [DIAL:0002124F])
• [iNFO:0002ABA7] ('Old lady Maiden-Loom owns the stables. But my father and me, we run things.' in GRUP Topic Children of [DIAL:0002707A])
• [iNFO:02015C80] ('Look at you, wandering around causing trouble. Precious.' in GRUP Topic Children of [DIAL:02004DAA])

There are several other entries that are included the STEP Extended.  Could the patcher have accidentally used RDO - USLEEP.esp instead (the RDO nexus says RDO - Cutting Room Floor Patch.esp is a joint compatibility patch for use with BOTH CRF & USLEEP)?  The 3rd & 4th entries above don't seem necessary (although the 4th one says in NAM3 - Edits says "Edited ON PURPOSE!"), but the 1st & 2nd seem important for stability.

 

I went ahead and incorporated my changes to my own compatibility patch.  Let me know if I should reverse this...

[mentaltyranny]

I also found a missed records from TCIY-BCS Patch.esp that wasn't carried into STEP extended.  Look for DLC1LD_AetheriumWars "The Aetherium Wars" [bOOK:02004D5B]...

[mentaltyranny]

To continue, there is ALOT of content missing from 3.0.3 farmhousechimneysCRF.esp which is NOT included in the STEP Extended 2.10.0 Patch as well.  I don't know if it is missing in Core. I would recommend Extended users include it in their load order.  I really hope this is helping someone, if not, lmk and I will quit posting these...

[mentaltyranny]

Okay, there are also a few edits for BQO patches that were missed too. 

 

From BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp:

• FreeformFrostRiver "Supply Line" [QUST:000681D4]

From BetterQuestObjectives-PaarDilemmaPatch.esp:

• MQPaarthurnax "Paarthurnax" [QUST:0003FA16]

I know this probably seems petty, but I am just trying to help... you guys do an awesome job!

Edited August 18, 2017 by mentaltyranny

[Kelmych]

The REGS pack (see my signature) also mentions that the farmhouse chimneys - CRF patch currently seems to be missing in the STEP Extended patch. The REGS-STEP patch in this archive also contains a few patch records for compatibility between STEP Extended mods.

 

I find your comments on additional patch records useful.

 

There are also a few patches for compatibility between STEP Extended mods in this conflict resolution guide that are not in the STEP Extended patch; some of them are also in the STEP-REGS patch.

[mentaltyranny]

There are also a few patches for compatibility between STEP Extended mods in this conflict resolution guide that are not in the STEP Extended patch; some of them are also in the STEP-REGS patch.

Not to revive a dead post, but since I am trying to play Skyrim LE again, I was wondering where this conflict resolution guide was, Kelmych? The link leads back here.  

 

Everyone else, I think I found some more missing patch records, and even some missing patches on this STEP installation.  I will post here as I confirm.

[mentaltyranny]

Even though it is NOT mentioned in Immersive Citizens-AI Overhaul STEP wiki, Immerse Citizens - ELE patch.esp, the patch for ELE - Lite was partially included in the STEP Extended Patch.  However, it looks like a couple changes from it didn't make it in.  Here are FormIDs as reported by xEdit are:

• MorthalFalionsHouse "Falion's House" [CELL:000138D0]
  
• SolitudeErikursHouse "Erikur's House" [CELL:00016A09]
  
• SolitudeStables "Solitude Stables" [CELL:00070469]
  
• MorthalThonnirsHouse "Thonnir's House" [CELL:000138CA]
  
• MorthalThaumaturgistsHut "Thaumaturgist's Hut" [CELL:000138CB]
  
• KolskeggrMinePavosHouse "Pavo's House" [CELL:0001F7B3]
  
• DragonBridgeLumberCamp "Dragon Bridge Lumber Camp" [CELL:00013A7D]
  
• MorthalJorgenandLamisHouse "Jorgen and Lami's House" [CELL:000138CF]
  

You may also wish to tell users who do not install STEP Patches to select the patch in the fomod.  I can do so for you guys, but I want to make sure that I am allowed.

[mentaltyranny]

The same thing appears to be the case with the AOS/RW2 compatibility patch.  Even though it is NOT mentioned in Audio Overhaul for Skyrim STEP wiki, AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp, the patch for Realistic Water Two was partially included in the STEP Extended Patch.  However, it looks like a most of it didn't make it in.  Here are FormIDs as reported by xEdit are:

• AMBWaterRiverLPSD [sNDR:0003C73B]
  
• AMBWaterfallLargeLPSD [sNDR:0003C8EF]
  
• AMBWaterfallMediumLPSD [sNDR:0003DDD2]
  
• AMBWaterfallLargeDistant2DLPSD [sNDR:0003DDFC]
  
• AMBWaterfallLargeDistant70002DLPSD [sNDR:0003E48C]
  
• AMBWaterfallLarge2DLPSD [sNDR:000B6019]
  
• AMBWaterRapidsMediumLPSD [sNDR:000B601D]
  
• AMBWaterRapidsMedium2DLPSD [sNDR:000B6090]
  
• AMBWaterfallMedium2DLPSD [sNDR:000B60E0]
  
• AMBWaterfallMediumDistantLPSD [sNDR:000B60FA]
  
• AMBWaterCanalRiften012DLPSD [sNDR:000F11F5]
  
• AMBWaterCanalRiften022DLPSD [sNDR:000F11F6]
  
• AMBWaterfallMediumDistantCloseLPSD [sNDR:000F9933]
  
• AMBWaterfallLargeDistantVerbLPSD [sNDR:00104D54]
  
• AMBWaterfallLarge2DMarkarthLPSD [sNDR:0010FB9E]
  
• AMBWaterfallMedium2DMarkarthLPSD [sNDR:0010FB9F]
  
• AMBWaterfallMediumMarkarthLPSD [sNDR:0010FBA0]
  
• AMBWaterRapidsMediumMarkarth2DLPSD [sNDR:0010FBA1]
  
• AMBWaterRapidsMediumMarkarthLPSD [sNDR:0010FBA2]
  
• AMBWaterfallLargeMarkarthLPSD [sNDR:0010FBBE]
  

Again, you guys may also wish to tell users who do not install STEP Patches to select the patch in the fomod.  Lmk if you want me to do it for you guys!

[mentaltyranny]

The STEP Extended Patch is also missing the two edits from AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp, an AOS patch for use with Wet & Cold, that were missed too.  Here they are:

• AMBrWindMountainGustA [sNDR:0003E602]
• AMBrWindMountainGustB [sNDR:000CF2CA]

[mentaltyranny]

It looks like a couple changes from the HFE-CRF-Patch.esp weren't incorporated into STEP Extended Patch.  Analysis via xEdit reveals that the mod simply removes the 3 "Bee Hives" in CRF and replaces them with "Apiaries" from Heartfire Extended.  The STEP Extended Patch does remove the Bee Hives, but fails to add the Apiaries.  I recommend installing a Heartfire Extended/CRF patch in order to see the new apiaries.

Edited June 9, 2018 by mentaltyranny

[mentaltyranny]

Even though the STEP mod wiki for EBQO does not mention installing the EBQO/BCS compatibility patch, some records from BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp were partially included in the STEP Extended Patch.  However, it looks like some of it didn't make it in.  Here are FormIDs as reported by xEdit are:

• dunFolgunthurJournal2 "Journal - Daynas Valen's, Part 2" [bOOK:00085FE3]
  
• DA07KeepersoftheRazorNotes "The Keepers of the Razor" [bOOK:000973AC]
  

The crickets here make me wonder if posting this is any good... again let me know if you guys want me to make any additions to the STEP wiki pages.  I know you guys are busy.

[mentaltyranny]

From BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp:

• FreeformFrostRiver "Supply Line" [QUST:000681D4]                            

Just wanted to post, for the record I technically got this wrong.  The STEP Extended patch had a small typo when it incorporated this record.  Unfortunately, there also two other records in STEP Extended Patch that differ from BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp:

 

• NarzulburFreeFormWifeQuest "A Wife For Mauhulakh" [QUST:000E316E]
• FreeformWinterholdCollegeB "The Missing Apprentices" [QUST:000E357D]

The first one looks like an obvious overlook when copying records in xEdit.  It looks like the STEP Patch author forget to pull over the Aliases data after Scripts.  The second is more tricky, as the STEP Extended patch has two flags checked for the quest, one being "Start Game Enabled" and the other being "Unknown 5".  Looking at the CRF change log, it says Start Game Enabled for version 1.1.3, but makes two other logs for Missing Apprentices in version 1.1.3a and 2.0.  Based on the fact that the STEP Extended patch hasn't been updated in quite some time, and the fact that neither of these records are checked in the current version of BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp, I assume that the STEP patch is out of date.

Edited June 9, 2018 by mentaltyranny

[TechAngel85]

I've completely reworked the patch for 3.0. So you may continue your analysis, however, it might all be for not since the 3.0 patch is 100% rebuilt from scratch.

[mentaltyranny]

I've completely reworked the patch for 3.0. So you may continue your analysis, however, it might all be for not since the 3.0 patch is 100% rebuilt from scratch.

Tech, okay, I think that was everything anyway.  Just so you know what to look out for, there were missing/incorrect edits in STEP Extended Patch for the following plugins:

• FarmhouseChimneysCRF.esp X
• Immerse Citizens - ELE patch.esp* 
• TCIY-BCS Patch.esp 
• AOS2_RealisticWaterTwo Patch.esp* 
• AOS2_WetandCold Patch.esp 
• HFE-CRF-Patch.esp X
• RDO - Cutting Room Floor.esp 
• BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp* 
• BetterQuestObjectives-CRFPatch.esp

Additionally, the missing records from the two plugins marked with asterisks (*) that weren't mentioned in the installation instructions on the STEP wikis.  The ones marked with an "X" can't be carried through using xEdit to STEP Extended Patch (or any other patch) without such requiring it as master file for some reason.  I thought I discovered a way around this before when modding skyrim last year, but I can't remember it.  Unfortunately, this means that that adding them to STEP Extended Patch (or any other) will still require them in your load order, which defeats the point.

 

I hope this helps somehow.  It really made me learn a lot about modding Skyrim.  Let me know if I can assist in any way!

[mentaltyranny]

 

Even though the STEP mod wiki for EBQO does not mention installing the EBQO/BCS compatibility patch, some records from BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp were partially included in the STEP Extended Patch.  However, it looks like some of it didn't make it in.  Here are FormIDs as reported by xEdit are:

• dunFolgunthurJournal2 "Journal - Daynas Valen's, Part 2" [bOOK:00085FE3]
• DA07KeepersoftheRazorNotes "The Keepers of the Razor" [bOOK:000973AC]

The crickets here make me wonder if posting this is any good... again let me know if you guys want me to make any additions to the STEP wiki pages.  I know you guys are busy.

 

I was wrong here.  The STEP LOOT sorting rules make these two changes from BetterQuestObjectives - BCS Patch.esp unnecessary.