Nifskope Woes

[Rebel47]

So I have been trying for almost a week now to change the hairstyle of the custom follower mod Recorder, I've even followed the guide found [urhttps://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/61348/?tab=2&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fskyrim%2Fajax%2Fmodfiles%2F%3Fid%3D61348&pUp=1]here[/url] under miscellaneous for doing so which has worked for others yet every time I attempt it and get it working right in Nifskope and in the CK when in game Recorder always has a dark face, I am at a loss here and was hoping that someone would have some insight that I clearly lack.

 

I have made sure that all textures are pointing to the correct place in Nifskope too so I can't see if being a problem, but if you have any ideas I would love to hear (read) them

[Rebel47]

Just an update to let you know I managed to fix this issue, I was making one very simple mistake, using higher resolution tint mods and trying to export them in CK so removing the tintmask folder while I exported allowed me to circumvent the problem and have a perfect outcome.

[TechAngel85]

Dark face usually means you're missing the facegen data. When you save it in the CK, there should also be some facegen data that comes with it.

[Rebel47]

When I start it I export the head and eyes as obj forms in Nifskope and then change the hairstyle making sure the paths stay exactly the same, I do the ctrl + F4 export in Creation Kit and then load it all back up in Nifskope and import the 2 obj files from earlier, but in doing that I always get the black face, I'm sure it's something simple I'm missing but I can't figure out what it is.

[TechAngel85]

Original CK or new CK64?

[Rebel47]

Original CK I don't have CK64 installed anymore

[TechAngel85]

I'd have to go through the process to see what is going on. The only thing I know that causes the dark faces is missing facegen textures.

[Rebel47]

Hmm well the textures stay in the same folder under the same path and I re-link them back to the mesh in Nifskope, after exporting facegen/facetint in CK so unless I'm doing that in the reverse order I'm at a loss.

[Guest]

Have you updated tangent spaces? It should be under "Spells" at the top of Nifskope. Probably not that, but a picture would be nice to guage how dark and to make sure it's Facegen. I have no experience with Facegen as my characters could look like a potato for all I care. 

[Rebel47]

I tried updating the tangent spaces but it didn't seem to have any affect, I finally got a picture of the problem I'm facing which can be seen here, please ignore the obnoxious hair color, it will be changed when I can do so without getting the face discoloration.

 

Hopefully this will make it easier to diagnose the problem and maybe I can finally get to resolving the issue, thanks.

Edited June 3, 2017 by Rebel47

[TechAngel85]

Yeah, that doesn't look like missing facegen. That looks like something else...like lighting isn't affecting the textures. You didn't change any flags on the mesh did you?

[Rebel47]

The only thing I did was point the textures to the correct mesh again, they were the mouth, head, hair and hairline.

 

 

Unless it was when I changed the texture paths on the hair and hairline nifs.

[Guest]

Are the normal maps tangent or model space? Tangent are the purple ones and model are the rainbow-looking ones. If you repointed them to tangent and they are flagged as model space in    BSLightingShaderProperty -- under one of the shader flag drop-downs -- it won't work correctly. You'll need to untick it if they are tangent. Again, totally unfamiliar with this character process myself.

[Rebel47]

All normal maps are tangent, with the exception of the body which is Model Normal Space and all correct tags are applied in Nifskope, I have done things like this before and never had any issues it is only with this one custom companion that this problem even occurs and I cannot fathom out why that would be.

Edited June 4, 2017 by Rebel47