Help required - xEdit showing errors in many core mods

[dunc001]

Good afternoon all.  I am putting this up as a fresh forum post in the hope that some far more experienced than me can point me in the right direction.

 

I have an enormous build based off SR:LE and SR:LE Extended which for the past two months I have been adding to.  Unmerged it contains a total of just short of 580 plugins.  My load order now contains 49 merges which reduce the load order before bashed patch/DynDOLOD/DSR/ASIS to 246 (excluding the lvl list patches which bashed patch will remove). Every one of the merges has been individually CR'd, all scripts contained in merged mods checked to ensure there are no 'GetFormIDFromFile' calls on .esp files being merged and so on.  This has been an exhaustive process and I am pretty confident that the merges are all good and are not the cause of these errors.

 

None of the plugins showing below as containing errors relies on anything in any of the merges, and I have been very careful not to include in the merges any masters unless all dependents are also contained within the same merge.  So I can also pretty confidently say that none of the errors are being caused by renumbering of any of the IDs within the merges. 

 

So having got the load order to within the limit and updated everything which needed it I am about to embark on the CR for the full build.  I am intending to run through everything in the SR:LE CR followed by the SR:LEX CR and then go through each of the non-core/extended plugins and CR them (all of this into one CR plugin).  In preparation for starting this I reran LOOT on last time an decided to load everything up into xEdit and do some final housekeeping.  With the entire build loaded I selected everything and ran 'Check for Errors' and that's when the SHTF!  xEdit returned errors in a total of 39 plugins, only two of which are minor issues in two of my merges.  Many of the other plugins are core mods.  These are the plugins showing errors:

 

Unofficial Skyrim Legendary Edition Patch.esp

Nock2Tip.esm

ORS_MorthalPain.esm

SkyTEST-RealisticAnimals&Predators.esm

Cutting Room Floor.esp

Rigmor.esp

3DNPC.esp

iWil_UselessShopOverhaul.esp

Skyrim Immersive Creatures.esp

Civil War Overhaul.esp

WetandCold.esp

RealisticRoomRental.esp

Valerica.esp

LostGrimoire.esp

LandLord_.esp

Helgen Reborn.esp

MoonAndStar_MAS.esp

Undeath.esp

Basnpc.esp

Skyrim Unbound.esp

Hebrock_Der Schatten von Meresis - EV.esp

The Haven From The Cold And Dark.esp

EFFDialogue.esp

Dynamic Dialogue Followers.esp

Inigo.esp

quest_nomercy.esp

arnima.esp

Nock2Tip.esp

quest_seaofghosts.esp

ForgottenCity.esp

quest_pitfighter.esp

Snowbound Acres.esp

BlackreachRailroadNew.esp

MzarkWonders.esp

summersetisles.esp

Dragon Combat Overhaul.esp

CACO_Immersive_Creatures_Patch_ lvl_list.esp

 

It should be noted that none of these plugins have been tampered with, they are exactly as they were when I downloaded and installed them through MO.

 

I have uploaded the xEdit errors to pastebin here

 

I am looking for any advice or words of wisdom you can offer as to how best to go about addressing these errors, which if any of them can be ignored, whether there are any general rules about how to go about fixing each of the different types of error.

 

I will upload my mod list and load order to ModWatch this evening.

 

Many thanks for taking the time to read and I hope someone out there can help!

Edited June 23, 2016 by dunc001

[Darth_mathias]

well for starters you can get rid of:

 

Valerica.esp

 

As this has been merged in the latest version of my NPC Retexture merged mod.

[Astakos]

Dunc, something must be seriously screwed up in your mod order...although I am not at my gaming rig now as to check some of the plugins that I use as well (not using all of them you have listed); I just don't recall seeing script errors (VMAD) ones to the majority of them. Also errors in USLEEP?? Are you sure that you are using the latest version 3.0.4a? I know there has been a reupload due to Nexus having corrupted the initial 3.0.4 upload...perhaps try re-downloading.

 

Which version of xEdit are u using? The latest one here? 

Edited June 23, 2016 by Astakos

[dunc001]

Dunc, something must be seriously screwed up in your mod order...although I am not at my gaming rig now as to check some of the plugins that I use as well (not using all of them you have listed); I just don't recall seeing script errors (VMAD) ones to the majority of them. Also errors in USLEEP?? Are you sure that you are using the latest version 3.0.4a? I know there has been a reupload due to Nexus having corrupted the initial 3.0.4 upload...perhaps try re-downloading.

 

Which version of xEdit are u using? The latest one here? 

I downloaded the latest 3.0.4a USLEEP two days ago so it should be the good one.  I'm on TES5Edit 3.1.2 from 16th June from here  3.1.3 only added support for FO4 as far as I can see so shouldn't have affected anything in TES5?

 

Plus I asked Darth to check his setup this morning and he confirmed the same errors (at least in USLEEP and CRF, he didn't check the others AFAIK).

Edited June 23, 2016 by dunc001

[Astakos]

No no no!!! This is an extremely old version of TES5Edit...probably the reason you have all these errors.

 

Download the one form the link i gave you above and monitor that Nexus page for any future developments/updates of TES5Edit.

[Darth_mathias]

No no no!!! This is an extremely old version of TES5Edit...probably the reason you have all these errors.

 

Download the one form the link i gave you above and monitor that Nexus page for any future developments/updates of TES5Edit.

oh right i hadn't realised TES5Edit had been updated.

[dunc001]

No no no!!! This is an extremely old version of TES5Edit...probably the reason you have all these errors.

 

Download the one form the link i gave you above and monitor that Nexus page for any future developments/updates of TES5Edit.

If it's an old version why is it showing an upload date to the Nexus of 16th June 2016?

[Darth_mathias]

Dunc I belive teh one one the F)4 page the the latest devolpers version this is version Neo is currently pointing too so I am using that.

[Astakos]

Dunc it is an old version...actually a very old version.

 

The only reason is showing as like it has been updated recently is because the account of one of the authors maintaining the page has been hijacked and in view of the fear that a malicious/virus archive has been uploaded instead of the actual TES5Edit, Sharlikran decided to erase that "malicious" upload and re-upload TES5Edit to the version that it was before the account-Hijack took place.

 

That is why it is appearing under a recent date. But it is a very old version....always keep an eye/track the link i gave you!

 

@ Darth

 

Darth, as Dunc saud, if you are using the latest version of FO4Edit (the link i gave above), you are experiencing errors in USLEEP 3.0.4a??

I would be extremely surprised if you do...

Edited June 23, 2016 by Astakos

[dunc001]

Dunc it is an old version...actually a very old version.

 

The only reason is showing as like it has been updated recently is because the account of one of the authors maintaining the page has been hijacked and in view of the fear that a malicious/virus archive has been uploaded instead of the actual TES5Edit, Sharlikran decided to erase that "malicious" upload and re-upload TES5Edit to the version that it was before the account-Hijack took place.

 

That is why it is appearing under a recent date. But it is a very old version....always keep an eye/track the link i gave you!

Grrr!  Thanks for the heads up.  I'll download 3.1.3 tonight and recheck everything.  I am just hoping that I didn't induce further errors last night editing things in a couple of plugins which showed as errors pre-merge.  I'm pretty sure it won't be a problem as they showed as having errors in Merge Plugins Standalone before I checked them in xEdit.

[Darth_mathias]

i've just redownloaded TES5Edit from the FO4 page rerun against USLEEP and no errors i must off had a older version as well.

 

Thanks Astakos

Edited June 23, 2016 by Darth_mathias

[dunc001]

Dunc I belive teh one one the F)4 page the the latest devolpers version this is version Neo is currently pointing too so I am using that.

So are you saying that there are still errors showing as per our earlier conversation and that you have checked using the correct version of xEdit from the FO4 page?

 

Edit - Ninja'd

Edited June 23, 2016 by dunc001

[Astakos]

i've just redownloaded TES5Edit from the FO4 page rerun against USLEEP and no errors i must off had a older version as well.

 

Thanks Astakos

Glad to hear Darth! 

[dunc001]

Right, more wierdness.  I downloaded xEdit 3.1.3 last night and reran the Check For Errors on my complete load order.  I got exactly the same errors again, in fact there were some new errors showing in USLEEP (namesh triangles).  Then with the full load order still loaded in I deselected everything and just ran the check on USLEEP and still got the same errors.  So I exited xEdit and opened it up again this time loading only USLEEP in on it's own and rechecked - no errors!  

 

So how come I am getting errors on these plugins when I have my complete load order loaded in to xEdit, yet no errors when I load them in individually and check them?  So knowing this now what is the process I should follow to track down the cause?  I notice when I watch the Messages log in xEdit that records are 'injected into' plugins.  Could this be what's happening, that 'broken' records are being injected into these plugins by something later on in the load order? 

Edited June 24, 2016 by dunc001

[zilav]

There are almost no differences between 3.1.2 and the latest builds regarding Skyrim plugins handling, that's why 3.1.2 stays on Skyrim nexus as the last available stable release before we started experimenting with Fallout 4.

[dunc001]

OK, so having scoured through 16500 lines of log text from xEdit loading the plugins in I came across these three warning lines relating to one of the merges:

[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [LAND:020105F4] in file Dragonborn.esm is being overridden by record [ARMO:030105F4] in file Animal Companions and Mounts.esp.
[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [LAND:020105F6] in file Dragonborn.esm is being overridden by record [BPTD:030105F6] in file Animal Companions and Mounts.esp.
[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [LAND:020105F5] in file Dragonborn.esm is being overridden by record [ARMA:030105F5] in file Animal Companions and Mounts.esp.

They all relate to records from the f'ing Dovahbear companion mod which Neo goaded me into including which I had to shoehorn into an existing merge.  I am guessing that Merge Plugins has renumbered something which has then led to these errors when they've been injected back into Dragonborn.esm.  Could these three errors be causing a cascade effect through the entire load which is resulting in so many errors in so many plugins?